a couple of days ago we posted the following piece.
https://publish.indymedia.org.uk/en/2011/04/477248.html
Which unfortunately led to a slanging match between various posters(including ourselves) using names with big A's, circled @'s, little a's, the colour black and something to do with blocs (not Lego) . Various threats and rude words were used.
https://publish.indymedia.org.uk/en/2011/04/477248.html Which unfortunately led to a slanging match between various posters(including ourselves) using names with big A's, circled @'s, little a's, the colour black and something to do with blocs (not Lego) . Various threats and rude words were used.
All this stemmed from one poster who ultimately appeared to agree with the rest of us. Were sure our authoritarian detractors and fellow travellers were pissing themselves.
OK so we know this is a bit of flagrant bumping abuse but we are consciously trying to use Indymedia (though are nothing to do with UKIMC) over other mediums but do not wish to detract from the reports coming from Rossport etc. so we have reposted the entire thread minus the obvious trolls,a pointless reprint from another website and ANY reference to the circled A circular argument.
We know this is a bit hard to read but should be easier than the original thread. we are trying to be read by as many potential activists and specifically the non (or less!) Anarchist ones.
Thanks we will try to shut up now and would be very interested in coherent commentary. And linking.
THIS IS AN ATTEMPT AT A POLITE REQUEST ABOUT INFILTRATORS AND THE MEDIA.
Please do not talk to the media any more about PC Mark Kennedy, PC “Marco Jacobs” and PC “Lyn Watson”.
It has come to the attention of the entity known as ABC Annares that a documentary company, Century Films, is contacting a number of people through their personal emails asking for comments for an upcoming documentary to be made about PC Mark Kennedy. We think that they may have been given these addresses by the ex policeman himself.
During the Guardian and Newsnight created hype earlier this year. ABC Annares decided to start compiling a list of the movements of the 3 known infiltrators. We undertook this task not because we wished to create a time line for the purposes of “building a story” ,we did this because we were aware that we have a debt of honour to our comrades world wide. ABC Annares joins the vast majority of people affected by the 3 known infiltrators who sees solidarity as overriding a need to talk to the press. We would like to highlight the clear statements made by Saving Iceland, ABC Berlin , Cardiff Anarchist Network and the more recent joint international statement as ways of communicating a point without prostituting oneself.
To those of you who are thinking of talking to the media further, ask yourselves this. Can you actually think of some way in which your campaigns can possibly be advanced by talking to the media at this time?
Kennedy has teamed up with “PR Guru” Max Clifford. Just as two wrongs don't make a right two liars does not make the truth.
Do you think that Kennedy should profit further out of the career he made off our backs?
The three cops have caused pain and suffering that still continues. There are those who have been to prison because of these scum and there are those who may still. Do not further your own career on their backs!
And let us be clear we are not surprised that we have been infiltrated by Britain's political police. Why? Because the state is our enemy. Those of you “climate activists” who fail to see that you are just a small part of a wider movement as opposed to “The Movement” should remember that all of these police were involved in other “issues” and for the most part were almost entirely focused on the activity of those of us who are proud to stand by the label Anarchist.
And those of you who do not hold this label consider this....
If these (and the RTS and GR) infiltrations have taught us anything it is that if we centralise, the police will infiltrate the centre. Without a centre only the edge can fall victim. Anarchism is both a practical organising method as well as an ideology.
There is not a clique somewhere that has a better line in media communication than you and you do not understand the media better that the rest of us.
We are asking you to not talk to the media about this any more because you have nothing to gain and a lot to loose from further feeding them.
There are many people who have been emotionally scarred by these cops actions. They will continue to be scarred whilst the media bonfire continues. This media fire that Kennedy wishes to stoke needs oxygen. Do not feed the fire, starve him of oxygen.
ABC Annares
2 more things
04.04.2011 21:53
1.If people are on email lists or Facebook or other “social media” that might be read by people who this is relevant too please feel free to copy/link.
2.If we discover that the email addresses were given to Century films by someone other than Mark Kennedy, then Mark Kennedy will not be alone in having to watch their back.
ABC Annares
OK so we know this is a bit of flagrant bumping abuse but we are consciously trying to use Indymedia (though are nothing to do with UKIMC) over other mediums but do not wish to detract from the reports coming from Rossport etc. so we have reposted the entire thread minus the obvious trolls,a pointless reprint from another website and ANY reference to the circled A circular argument.
We know this is a bit hard to read but should be easier than the original thread. we are trying to be read by as many potential activists and specifically the non (or less!) Anarchist ones.
Thanks we will try to shut up now and would be very interested in coherent commentary. And linking.
THIS IS AN ATTEMPT AT A POLITE REQUEST ABOUT INFILTRATORS AND THE MEDIA.
Please do not talk to the media any more about PC Mark Kennedy, PC “Marco Jacobs” and PC “Lyn Watson”.
It has come to the attention of the entity known as ABC Annares that a documentary company, Century Films, is contacting a number of people through their personal emails asking for comments for an upcoming documentary to be made about PC Mark Kennedy. We think that they may have been given these addresses by the ex policeman himself.
During the Guardian and Newsnight created hype earlier this year. ABC Annares decided to start compiling a list of the movements of the 3 known infiltrators. We undertook this task not because we wished to create a time line for the purposes of “building a story” ,we did this because we were aware that we have a debt of honour to our comrades world wide. ABC Annares joins the vast majority of people affected by the 3 known infiltrators who sees solidarity as overriding a need to talk to the press. We would like to highlight the clear statements made by Saving Iceland, ABC Berlin , Cardiff Anarchist Network and the more recent joint international statement as ways of communicating a point without prostituting oneself.
To those of you who are thinking of talking to the media further, ask yourselves this. Can you actually think of some way in which your campaigns can possibly be advanced by talking to the media at this time?
Kennedy has teamed up with “PR Guru” Max Clifford. Just as two wrongs don't make a right two liars does not make the truth.
Do you think that Kennedy should profit further out of the career he made off our backs?
The three cops have caused pain and suffering that still continues. There are those who have been to prison because of these scum and there are those who may still. Do not further your own career on their backs!
And let us be clear we are not surprised that we have been infiltrated by Britain's political police. Why? Because the state is our enemy. Those of you “climate activists” who fail to see that you are just a small part of a wider movement as opposed to “The Movement” should remember that all of these police were involved in other “issues” and for the most part were almost entirely focused on the activity of those of us who are proud to stand by the label Anarchist.
And those of you who do not hold this label consider this....
If these (and the RTS and GR) infiltrations have taught us anything it is that if we centralise, the police will infiltrate the centre. Without a centre only the edge can fall victim. Anarchism is both a practical organising method as well as an ideology.
There is not a clique somewhere that has a better line in media communication than you and you do not understand the media better that the rest of us.
We are asking you to not talk to the media about this any more because you have nothing to gain and a lot to loose from further feeding them.
There are many people who have been emotionally scarred by these cops actions. They will continue to be scarred whilst the media bonfire continues. This media fire that Kennedy wishes to stoke needs oxygen. Do not feed the fire, starve him of oxygen.
ABC Annares
2 more things
04.04.2011 21:53
1.If people are on email lists or Facebook or other “social media” that might be read by people who this is relevant too please feel free to copy/link.
2.If we discover that the email addresses were given to Century films by someone other than Mark Kennedy, then Mark Kennedy will not be alone in having to watch their back.
ABC Annares
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