An estimated 20,000 to 30,000 people are expected to come to London this month to attend the third European Social Forum taking place between Friday 15th and Sunday 17th (although many other ESF related events start earlier). Around 1,000 people have been registering per day and paying £20 or £30 to attend (nb the first 20,000 will recieve a free three day travelcard). The ESF will be a massive event that will see hundred of seminars, workshops, and cultural events taking place at Alexandra Palace and in the Bloosmbury area of London. However, with less than two weeks to go before the ESF begins, there is a potentially politically embarrassing severe accomodation crisis, with thousands wanting to come from europe unsure if they can afford London prices and requesting free accomodation. Recently several coordinations of the Babels volunteer interpreters threatened to quit over what they claim is a looming accommodation and reimbursement crisis [see response].
APPEAL: If you can help with providing free communal accomodation or homestay during the ESF, please contact either the official accomodation people or autospaces(at)yahoo.co.uk.
Stop Press: The Guardian says that the Millennium Dome for ESF Accomodation
Over the last year the ESF organising process has repeatedly been accused of being untransparent and non-participatory. Accusations have centred around the actions of the Socialist Workers Party, Socialist Action and the political and financial control of Mayor Ken Livingstone's Greater London Authority (GLA). Much has been written about this, for a sample see: UK NGO Letter | esf2004.net | Radical Philosphy Critique | ESF technology, media centres, and politics | Enrager | Weekly Worker (extensive reports)
Partly in response to this there are now several Autonomous Spaces and initiatives with well over two hundred workshops and seminars and other events scheduled from Wednesday 13th - Sunday 17th (read more).
Indymedia is organising a four-day Indymedia centre to facilitate reporting and DIY media production. Themes will include Surveillance and the Security State, Biometric ID Cards, Migrants and Noborders, Gender, Intellectual Property, Copyright, Creative Commons, Corporate media and Alternative media etc. Thursday 14th sees the European Forum on Communication Rights, Friday 15th sees a full day programme including a workshop and launch presentation on the "Eyes on International Financial Institutions (IFIs)" film portal website [www.ifiwatch.tv]. Saturday also sees the 10th Birthday Conference of SchNEWS.
Other alt-media initiatives includes an ESF Breakfast Radio Show on Resonance FM and 24/7 streaming ESF coverage from rampART radio. Further sources of information will include info-points located at the Camden Centre, the rampART and LARC.
LISTEN NOW - STREAMING AUDIO FROM LONDON
On the Saturday at the Camden Centre, SchNEWS is organising a 'Direct Action Conference', which they say will be an "opportunity to discuss, plot, conspire and organise serious resistance to the suicidal onward march of capitalism". The Camden Centre is just one of a number of the autonomous spaces organising events during the ESF.
The Wombles have sent out a request for translations of the "Call for Autonomous Spaces" text and currently have text in Italian, Spanish, French and Greek, but additional translations are needed. Despite the eviction of their social centre in Tufnell Park last month, they have put together a massive programme for 'Beyond ESF', packing in over 70 workshops into 5 days. They have invited participation in discussion and direct action around the themes of surveillance & control, social centres, precarious work, no borders, zapatismo, and mobilising for the G8 in Scotland next year. The venue for all this will be Middlesex University, close to the main official ESF venue at Alexandra Palace.
At the rampART creative centre and social space, as well as streaming ESF coverage from their new alt-media productions facilities, there will be cheap food and free internet access throughout the ESF, along with video screenings, live music, and other cultural events every evening, plus an end of ESF 'RAMPartY' on the sunday night.
Meanwhile, split between Conway Hall and London School of Economics, the 'Solidarity Village' operates under the slogan 'Another Economy is Possible!' .People will get LETS tokens to spend in exchange for a fee of £5 to £10 each day to attend activities including 'Life Despite Capitalism', 'Wellbeing Spaces', 'The Moon Room', 'Pagan Magikal Activism'. At UCL Bartlett, the 'Urban Forum', will provide a series of open mic discussions surrounding democratic participation, public space, public art, feminism, the Olympics, environmental, housing transport and food issues, citizenship, the effects of globalisation and neo-liberalism on development and the city.
Taking a different approach, the 'Laboratory of Insurrectionary Imagination' has been planning activities which "fall outside of and in between the spaces of culture and politics... between resistance and creativity". Meanwhile, with six months of preparation behind them, the 'European Creative Forum' (ECF) will "take democracy to the streets" with a mobile Carnival Forum (featuring one of the veg oil powered double decker buses that took the human shields to Iraq). They aim to provide a volatile mix of politics and pleasure and recommend that people bring radios so that everyone can dance to the same beat. The carnival will interlink some of the key venues and take the forum out of the traditional conference hall and to the (so called) "every day people".
There will be two Critial Mass bike rides on Friday 15th, one starting at midday the other in the evening both with a Climate Change theme. Bring radios. Optional dress code "London Underwater 2050" (rubber rings, fish, mermaids/mermen, snorkels, etc. Ends with a London Rising Tide of resistance to climate chaos at 3.30pm at the Edith Cavell statue opposite the entrance to the BP-sponsored National Portrait Gallery, Charing Cross Road. The evening ride will pass by the main ESF venue at Alexandra Palace.
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Register for the ESF
04.10.2004 22:48
By Wednesday 29th September over 5700 people had registered for the ESF. To take part go to fse-esf.org and register.
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Wrong...
05.10.2004 11:56
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Why, in your comment '.', do you mis-quote.
06.10.2004 16:12
The original article stated: " Around 1,000 people have been registering per day...".
Why mis-quote '.', and leave out 'per day'? The original article also links directly to the ESF registration page, yet you think we all need the address.
Do you have a problem, or are you trying to confuse?
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06.10.2004 16:57
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White Hart Lane
N17 8HR.
Date: Friday, October 15th, 2004
Time: 4 – 6pm
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Guide to ESF for Anti-GM Campaigners.
06.10.2004 20:04
Here are 22 meetings out of the hundreds that will be of interest to Anti-GM campaigners at the ESF.
1) Friday 15th. 9am-12pm. Seminar. GM-Free Europe. Venue: NATFHE, Bloomsbury.
SpeakersClaire Deveraux (chair); Lim Li Ching (The Third World Network); Victor Campos (Nicaragua); Helena Paul (UK); Adrian Bebb; Yiannis Tolios; Babis Moulgelas; Abdullah Aysu; Robert Fidrish; Jacques Leford (Confederation Paysanne).
Organisation: GeneWatch (UK); Friends of the Earth (England, Wales and Northern Ireland); Friends of the Earth (Europe); Greek Net against GMO's .The Institute of Science In Society.; Greenpeace; GM-Free (Cymru); Five Year Freeze; Save our World .
The current state of play regarding GM crops and foods around Europe and the world. Including contributions from European and international grassroots campaigners with time for discussion and debate. There will also be an introduction to three workshops on the GM WTO dispute, GM Free Zones and GM animal feed.
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2) Friday 15th. 1-3pm. Seminar: A Trans-Atlantic GMO Trade War: US attempts to use the WTO against European citizens. Congress House. Bloomsbury.
Speakers: Alexandra Wandel (Friends of the Earth Europe, Germany); Alice Palmer (Foundation for International Law and Development , UK); Peter Rossman (International Union of Food); Meena Raman (Third World Network); Dr Sue Mayer -Chair (Executive Director of GeneWatch, UK) .
Organisation: Friends of the Earth Europe (on behalf of the Bite Back); Hands off our Food campaign and The Five Year Freeze campaign (on behalf of the International Public Interest Amicus Coalition.
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3) Friday 15th. 4-6pm. GMO-free Zones. Smaller Workshop. NATFHE Brunswick. Bloomsbury.
Organisation: Friends of the Earth Europe, supported by Inf'OGM (France), Freeze (UK), ELTE Nature Conservation Club (Hungary), Legambiente (Italy), VELT (Belgium), BUND (Germany).
This Workshop will be organised to discuss and further strengthen local and regional initiatives throughout Europe to declare geographical areas GMO free. The ESF poses an excellent opportunity to exchange experiences, discuss and improve strategies and inspire new people to join the campaign for a GMO
free Europe.
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4) Friday 15th. 7-9pm. Smaller workshop on 'Trans-Atlantic GMO Trade War' will follow on from the seminar on the same subject, giving people the chance to discuss strategy and action around the WTO case in the future. NATFHE, Brunswick, Bloomsbury.
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5) Friday 15th. 7-9pm. Smaller Workshop: Science For the People. NATFHE Argyle. Bloomsbury.
Speakers: Sue Meyer, Genewatch; Claudia Neubauer, Fondation Sciences citoyennes
Malcolm Povey, Science for the People; Diana Wittendorp, Science for the People.
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6) Saturday 9-11am. European Agriculture: Citizens and farmers fighting together for a fair and sustainable CAP .Seminar
Alexandra Palace. Jenin
Agriculture policies do not only affects farmers but also consumers and the environment. The current CAP, shaped mainly according to the interest of agribusiness corporations, encourages intensive farming and the production of low quality food. Therefore, changing the CAP towards food sovereignty is a priority: How can we achieve it?
OrganisationCPE - European Farmers Coordination; Plataforma rural (Spain); UK Food Group (UK); French Platform for fair and sustainable agricultures (France); FUJA - Front Uni des Jeunes Agriculteurs (Belgium); VODO (Belgium); Platform Ander Landbouwbeleid (Nederlands); Africa Europe Faith and Justice Network (International)
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7) Saturday 16th11.30am-1.30pm. Major Plenary. Politics on your plate - European agriculture, its global impact and future.
Alexandra Palace.
Speakers: Jennifer Mourin (Asian Peoples’ Caravan for Food Sovereignty, Malaysia); Adrian Bebb (Friends of the Earth Europe); Penny Fowler (Oxfam International); Lidia Senra (SLG/Galicia); Jenny Jones (Green Party, UK). Facilitators: Giorgos Emmanouil (Co-Ordinator Greek Network Against GMO) and James Lloyd (National Union of Students, UK)
8) Saturday 16th. 11.30am-1.30pm. Large Workshop. Beyond GM: Nanotechnology in Food and Agriculture.
Rm 3D.ULU University of London Union, Malet St, Bloomsbury.
Organisation: ETC Group (Action Group on Erosion, technology and Concentration) also UK Food Group.
After much controversy over GM the frontier of molecular agriculture has moved down from genomes to atoms. This workshop will explore how the same agribusiness and food interests that brought us GM are now employing nanotechnology (manipulation at the atomic scale) to usher in the next stage of industrial agriculture and food production . the workshop will consider implications for farmers, consumers and the south and and discuss resistance strategies.
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9) Saturday 16th. 2-4pm. Small Workshop: Resisting corporate monopolies and new enclosures. Bloomsbury .ULU Malet Room.
Erosion, technology and Concentration), Green Party of Europe.
While Corporations are applying and using monopoly patents to gain increasing control over life, over software and over the fundamental building bocks of nature they are also applying a series of new legal and technological strategies to enforce their monopolies, enclose common knowledge and deny access.
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10) Saturday 16th. 2-4pm. Big Seminar: From Cancun to Hong-kong: Challenging the role of Europe in corporate led trade deals.
Chiapas Hall, Alexandra Palace.
Speakers: Meena Raman (Third World Network, Malaysia); Susan George (Attac France and Transnational Institute); Zsolt Boda, Protect the Future (Hungary); Alexandra Strickner (IATP, Geneva); Alexandra Wandel (FoEE).
Organisation: Seattle to Brussels Network (with the support of Friends of the Earth Europe, Belgium); Campagna per la Riforma della Banca Mondiale (Italy); Roba (Italy); Mani Tese and ReteLilliput (Italy); WIDE (Belgium); Wold Development Movement (UK); Pro Nature (Hungary); IATP (Switzerland); Corporate Europe Observatory (Netherlands); Attac (Austria/Denmark/Hungary/Switzerland, Milieudefensie, Netherlands, EED, Germany); Campaign to Reform the Welfare State (Norway); Attac (France).
Following the collapse of the WTO Ministerial Conference in Cancun and EU accession, the EU continues to pursue a dangerous corporate led trade agenda that will have detrimental impacts for people and the environment around the world. Under the leadership of the European Commission, the EU not only pushes for trade liberalisation in the WTO, but increasingly also advances a neo-liberal globalisation agenda at regional and bilateral level.This workshop will highlight Europe’s current position in trade deals and propose future civil society strategies.
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11) Saturday 2-4pm.Small workshop: Forest Fraud - tree planting to 'offset' fossil fuel guzzling activities will not slow climate change.
Bloomsbury Venue SOAS G52.
Initiatives offering to 'offset' luxury greenhouse gas emissions through tree planting are on the rise. The workshop will explore why these claims to render fossil fuel guzzling activities 'carbon neutral' are fraudulent and may hinder rather than help real solutions to curb the climate crisis.
Organisation: FERN SinksWatch Initiative
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12) Saturday 2-4pm Large Workshop: Cotton and international trade: how to build a fair and sustainable supply chain.
Bloomsbury Birkbeck 541
Speakers: Monica Di Sisto (ROBA); Simon Ferrigno (Pan Uk); Paolo Foglia (ICEA); Christine Gent (Ifat); Tamsin Lejeune (Ethical Fashion Forum).
The workshop aim is to exchange informations on cotton international market, to compare different experiences on sustainable and fair supply chain on cotton and to mobilitate several organisations to build up new supply chains and a new campaign toward Hong Kong Wto ministerial (dec 2005).
Organisation: Pesticides Action Network, UK. ROBA dell'Altro Mondo, Associazione Botteghe del Mondo, ICEA, AIAB, Rete Economia Solidale, CTM Altromercato, Campagna Riforma Banca Mondiale, Mani Tese, Rete Lilliput
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13) Saturday 4.30-6.30pm. Major Plenary. Environmental crisis and European responsibility.
Alexandra Palace
Jose Bove (CPE France); Magda Stoczkiewicz (EE Bankwatch); Mehmet Soganci (Network Chamber of Engineers and Architects, Turkey) ; Athena Ronquilo (Greenpeace International); George Monbiot (writer and campaigner, UK). Facilitators: Dr Liudmila Bulavga (Alternatives, Russia); Helen Lynn (Women’s Environment Network).
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14) Saturday 4.30-6.30pm. Small Workshop. Human cloning and genetic engineering: what's at stake?
Bloomsbury SOAS (classroom)
Speakers: Dr Michael Antoniou, King's College London University
David King, Human Genetics Alert
Sarah Sexton, The Cornerhouse
Part of a series of workshops/seminars on human genetics including:
Bar-coding people
Prenatal screening
Police States and Fortress Europe
Developments in Human Genetics.
Do reproductive rights allow cloning of humans or are people becoming just another designed consumer commodity? What are the implications for human rights and social equality? Organisation: Human Genetics Alert
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15) Saturday 4.30-6.30pm. Military research, science and engineering. Small Workshop
Bloomsbury NATFHE Bloomsbury
Speakers: Ottfried Nassauer (Director of the Berlin Information Center on Transatlantic Security (BITS), Germany); Dr. Stuart Parkinson ( Director of Scientists for global responsibility (SGR) UK); Alexis Vlandas (Nanotechnology, Materials Department University of Oxford, UK); Reiner Braun (International Network of Engineers and Scientists for global responsibility, Germany). Moderator/ Chair: Prof. Jean-Paul Laine (SNESup, France)
This meeting will expose the strong influence that the military has on scientific research and technological development, and argue for major changes in the way science and engineering are run. It will include new, up-to date research on this issue. There will be 4-5 speakers from UK, France Germany and eastern Europe.
Organisation: SGR - Scientists for global responsibility (UK); INES - International Network of Engineers and Scientists for global responsibility (German and international network); SNES-UP -Syndicat national de l´ensignement superieur (France).
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16) Saturday 4.30-6.30pm Science and citizenship. Small Workshop.
Bloomsbury. NATFHE Bloomsbury.
Our workshop will consider how to:
-Build equitable and supportive research partnerships between scientists and NGOs
-Support the development of scientists' and policy makers' awareness of public concern issues
-Democratise science and empower people - who needs, controls and benefits from the scientific process?
OrganisationFondation Sciences citoyennes (France); Science for the people (UK); INES (International network of engineers and scientists, Germany); Espace Marx (France)
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17) Saturday 4.30-6.30pm. Food Sovereignty, Fair Trade and Diversity: challenging corporate control. Seminar.
Alexandra Palace . Chiapas
On World Food Day this seminar champions smallholder farmers’ organisations’ and CSOs’ demands for international recognition of the right to Food Sovereignty. It will challenge WTO and TNC dominance that feeds corporations not people. It will promote fair trade, regulation of agri-food TNCs, local control of natural resources and GM-free agroecology / agricultural biodiversity that feeds the world.
Speakers: Action Aid; Peoples; Caravan for Food Sovereignty; Artisans Du Monde; CIIR (Nicaraguan Farmer); CPE; Plataforma Rural; Altromercato; Barbara Stocking, Director, Oxfam GB
Organisation: UK Food Group (Action Aid,CIIR, ITDG and others); CPE; Amis de la Terre; Platforma Rural; Artisans du Monde; Associazione Botteghe del Mondo Italia; Roba dell'Altro Mondo; Rete Lilliput; CTM Altromercato.
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18) Saturday 7-9pm. Land Rights - equitable access to land and resources in Europe and the Global South .Seminar.
Alexandra Palace. Woomera
Speakers: Jon Mendel (Henry George Foundation, UK); Lars Rindsig (Henry George Foundation, UK); Dave Wetzel (Labour Land Campaign, UK); Lidia Senra (Coordination Paysanne Europeenne CPE and Sindicato Labrego Galego SLG, Spain); Maria Carmen Sanchez (Sindicato de Obreros del Campo SOC, Spain); Martha Isabel Furtado Bispo; Wilma Strothenke (FoodFirst Information and Action Network FIAN, Germany).
Everyone needs natural resources in order to live, but most are deprived of their rights to these resources. We will therefore explore different approaches to land/resource access, use, ownership and taxation - including Agrarian Reform, the Right to feed oneself and resource rentals. Peasants/Representatives from Europe and Brasil will share their experiences.
OrganisationHenry George Foundation; Labour Land Campaign; FIAN (FoodFirst Information and Action Network, Germany); CPE (Coordination Paysanne Européenne); La Via Campesina (International Peasants Movement)
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19) Saturday 7-9pm. EU Trade Campaign Assembly. Large Workshop
Speakers: Alexandra Wandel (Friends of the Earth Europe); Susan George (Attac, France); Beverly Duckworth (World Development Movement, UK); Andrea Baranes (Campaign to Reform the World Ban, Italy); Erik Wesselius (Corporate Europe Observatory, The Netherlands); Alexandra Strickner, IATP, Geneva; Zsolt Boda, Protect the Future, Hungary and many more.
The WTO Doha round is back on track: governments have agreed a dangerous framework agreement in July 2004 that advances the corporate-driven agenda of the EU and other European governments for continued global trade and investment liberalisation. This campaigning assembly offers a unique opportunity for European NGOs to share information.
OrganisationSeattle to Brussels (S2B) with the support of Friends of the Earth Europe (Belgium); Campagna per la Riforma della Banca Mondiale (Italy) Roba (Italy); Mani Tese and ReteLilliput (Italy); WIDE (Belgium); World Development Movement (UK); Pro Nature (Hungary); IATP (Switzerland); Corporate Europe Observatory (Netherlands) Attac (Austria, Denmark, Hungary, Switzerland); Milieudefensie (Netherlands); WEED (Germany); Campaign to Reform the Welfare State (Norway) .
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20) Sunday 9am-12pm. Why EPA’s hurt: Agriculture, CAP reform and EU-ACP Free Trade Agreements .Large Workshop
ULU 3d. Malet St, Bloomsbury.
A briefing meeting for those organisations working in the area of international trade negotiations, agriculture, CAP and EU-ACP relations. On the dangers of EPAs and free trade on ACP agriculture.
Followed by discussions amongst participants
OrganisationBoth ENDS, CAFOD, ACTSA, and Traidcraft
21) Sunday 9am-12pm Global Footprints: steps to a sustainable future Small Workshop
Interactive workshop involving dynamic role-play techniques, scenarios, debate and information sharing.
An exploration of how the Global Footprints website quiz, available in seven European languages, functions as a tool for questioning peoples’ social, political, ethical and environmental choices. Participative learning and consultation techniques are used to explore the local and global impacts of everyday decisions.
Organisation: Humanities Education Centre
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22) Sunday 9am-12pm. Seminar. Toward citizens assemblies on research in Europe : against the commercial and military control of science, for citizens intervention in new research policy.
Bloomsbury NATFHE
Speakers: Janine Guespin (France); David Margolies (UK); Claudia Neubauer (France); Prof. Dr. Claus Monton (Finland).
Scientific research increasingly depends upon decisions at European level, in board rooms and in secret military meetings. Citizens, including scientists, must intervene in the process of decision making, to democratise science, empower people and prevent war. This seminar prepares for the citizen’s assemblies for research in Europe proposed at the 2nd ESF.
Organisation:
Association of University Teachers -AUT (UK); Espaces Marx (France); Fédération Mondiale de travaillerus Scientifiques/World Federation of Sceintific Workers - FMTS/WFSW (France); Fondation Science Citoyenne -FSC (France); The International Network of Engineers and Scientists for Global Responsibility (Germany); syndicat National de l'enseignement supérieur - SNESup (France)
Science fot the People UK
Scientists for global responsibility UK (SGR)
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ATTACK RED KEN
09.10.2004 15:50
DEATH TO THE PARTY OF WAR
DOWN WITH EUROPEAN NATIONAL SOCIALISM
DOWN WITH EUROCENTRISM AND WHITE SUPREMACISM
THE 10 COMMANDMENT OF RESISTANCE A PIOUS MONK MUST TAKE IN ORDER TO GAIN ENLIGHTENMENT AGAINST THE ESF.
* 1) THROW A DART AT RED KEN
* 2) ATTACK ALL SWP STALLS
* 3) GET IN A GROUP OF 12 PEOPLE AND THROW HUMAN EXCREMENT AT KEN AS HE SPEAKS
* 4) BRING SAME STICKERS WITH "SELL OUT ON THEM" AND STICK THEM ALL OVER THE SWP
* 5) 200 OF US NEED TO STORM THE ESF OFFICIAL CONFERENCE AND PUSH KEN OF THE STAND AS HE SPEAKS. ( press:
* 6) BRING BIG BANNERS THAT CLEARLY STATE "KEN YOU ARE NOT RED YOU ARE DEAD"
* 7) ISSUE A FATWAH AGAINST KEN ON BEHALF OF LARC.
* 8) BRING T-SHIRTS THAT STATE "ESF UNITED WITH RACISM NOT UNITED AGAINST RACISM"
* 9) KEN DOESN'T KNOW THE FOOTBALL SCORE AT THE MOMENT WELL LETS TELL HIM THAT DAY WHAT THE FOOTBALL SCORE IS GOING TO BE AT THE MOMENT IT'S BNP: 1 BARKING: 0 IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS ITS GONNA BE RESISTANCE:100.
* 10) KEN YOU GOT RESISTANCE IN IRAQ NOW YOU GOT RESISTANCE IN THE UNITED KINGDOM THIS RESISTANCE IS AIMED AT YOU.
* 11) WELCOME RED KEN WITH KICKS
This text was not discussed and prepared over a six-month period through a series of discussions, WOMBLES meetings and open forums to decide our reaction to the European Social Forum [ESF] planned for London in October 2004.
ATTACK RED KEN
At Last some Humorousness
09.10.2004 21:25
Finding another equally hilarious unpublished anecdote for the memoirs wont be easy. Will it?
Where was the really nasty one, 12) You telling Ken a funny story.
I'd Just give him a kiss for all those free bus passes, so folks can travel to and Beyond ESF. Oh, and another peck for arranging accomodation in the Dome.
The artist formerly known as Red Ken -
the wily old fluffy dog -
for Prime Minister.
H umorous
political protest or just spoilt brats throwing a tantrum?
13.10.2004 10:25
And yet clowns like our pal above feel perfectly justified, even self-righteous, in planning to ruin as many people's experience as they possibly can, because their views are obviously so much more important than anyone or anything else.
Of course there have been disagreements over the process but most of those involved are serious people and don't kick off against all + sundry because they don't get their way.
I don't like dismissing anyone but in this case it has to be said: grow up or fuck off!
:-(
Vommit from the Inymedia Memory Hole
13.10.2004 21:04
...it was these same 'Horizontals' who opposed the ESF comming to the UK from the first moment it was suggested.
They should be lined up at the entrance to Alexandra Palace (all twenty of them) and collectively pissed on.
Jake20
I think it's showing the usual western arrogance...and being totally self....
13.10.2004 23:04
You we never change conciousness (and thus reality) community wide by this means of foculisation.
Again, please just use the word FREE. It's a much better invocation!
But will you ever stop egosing?
Times passing, times passing.
King Amdo.
Read the second comment down by me here...
King Amdo