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Sack Parliament!

imcistas | 09.10.2006 23:00 | Free Spaces | Repression | Social Struggles | London

At 1pm on Monday October 9th, up to one hundred and fifty angry and concerned people converged on the Palace of Westminster, to sack parliament. The plan was to surround parliament and cause parliamentary activities to cease. MPs, Lords and civil servants would be prevented from re-opening Parliament.

As soon as protesters started to arrive, police quickly moved in stop and search everyone that was considered 'suspicious'. Many people were turned away from reaching Parliament Square, others were singled out by police units and prevented from joining the protests. See 2pm update when protesters were surrounded by police. An NUJ photogapher was hospitalised by police [photo + witness appeal] after being violently thrown into a kerb. See also 3pm update and a report.

Eventually the people trapped in the police ring were let out and escorted from Parlianment Square after having been searched, photographed and identified [treatment of press report]. All were told that they would be reported for summons for the offence of taking part in an unlawful demonstration.

There are reports of up to 40 people having been arrested. The court hearings for those arrested and summoned will start on Tuesday 17th Oct at 10am in West London Court [details] Anyone who can get down there to show solidarity and support to those involved will be greatly appreciated. [screening of footage (tuesday 10th)]

Accounts of the day: 1 | 2 | 3
Photos: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | Mainstream media pics | Videos 1 | 2

Links: Sack Parliament website | Reflections on Sack Parliament

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Various groups and individuals had called out for events to happen on the day. The first of these was a Critical Mass meeting under Waterloo Bridge at midday. Later, an anti-authoritarian and anarchist block meeting in Parliament Square, which would be near to the Rehabilitation block and Party@Parliament both of which were prapared to offer support and advice to sacked parliamentarians. The right-wing media have also helpfully publicised the event, and helped to show just what the police think of protest in this day and age.

A request to have the British government arrested for war crimes was sent to national newspapers.

According to participants, "The rank incompetency of the cabinet, the government and parliament in their handling of both foreign and domestic policy cannot be ignored any longer. Take part! Stop them continuing their wars; we have only one option left: sack parliament."

Past events over the summer: London Soldier picket | Smash EDO blockade | Smash EDO march | Foreign Office blockade | Blockade of Brize Norton airbase | Die in outside Downing Street | Attempted invasion of US Embassy | Picket of an Israeli arms company | Emergency Assembly about Israel/ Lebanon war

imcistas

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40 arrested

10.10.2006 11:02

I was in parliament square when this was all happening, it was farcical, the police hugely outnumbered the protestors. As for arrests, around forty people were arrested, and held in police custody, including myself. I was bailed at one am this morning after being charged with offences under the SOCPA act. Monday was another example of the draconian state our government is creating. And I feel that the treatment of the media reflects this.

anon protester


Solidarity for the hearing.

10.10.2006 18:53

This is the imformation I have for at least some of those arrested and/or summoned.

Next tuesday (17th) 10am
City of Westminster Youth Magistrates Court
70 Horseferry Road
London
WC1P 2AX

Anyone who can get down there please show support and solidarity. One of my friends who was arrested, brutally might I add, has also just heard he will be tried as an organiser which is utter bollocks.

anon


The SPG Haven't disbanded

11.10.2006 10:59

I to was one of the people charged under the SOCPA Act. 9 hours in't cell with no food or water. They confiscated by banner. I made that in my commune with some others the night before. My banner is now being used as evidence 'Government is Tyranny' (Big A). The Snatch and grab styles made by the police reminded me of the SPG Tactics in thatchers time. Police arnt allowed to profile apparently but there will gladly label ppl 'punks' hippies' ect. The SOCPA Act s yet another example of the repression of free speech, and an example of this country's and the west's downward spiral. I show no remourse for what happened and stand by my words on that banner!

Sledge


The price of dissent

12.10.2006 13:50







A state of emergency acknowledged. Brian’s muted bell tolls to me heavier and with more urgency than ether the passing traffic, spycopters or Ben. The planet is in crisis. The final solution is ether complicity in their genocide or rebellion and the outright sacking of their Parliament! Seditious thinkers could and would not be allowed to take back the mother of all Parliaments.

The intelligence brief was prepared to cover all eventualities. Overwhelming numbers of semi-armoured robots were programmed for deployment to the streets. Countless others switched to standby mode - batons, sprays, bullets and eezee-wipe jackets ready to obey without question much like how the SS indulged Hitler.

The Flyer said 1 o’clock. We arrived early only to be detained and searched on suspicion of being indigenous in an area vulnerable to tourism. Once we were processed and autoissued with pink slip and due notification stating our being there was unauthorised. unpreturbed we granted ourselves the right to freedom of movement in spite of the solemn warning that harbouring any thoughts of rebellion we would experience in full, the might of the glourious instruments of this democratic state.

The big clock bonged once. A horn was blasted. People and Robots waited for what was to be. Sinister Infobots continued their recording and scanning to prove their worth if not now but at a later date in the fight against humanity.

At about 1:15 a small group of 7-10 gutsy anarcho kids ran across the green towards Westminster, one being if only for a short while defiantly de-arrested from robotic reach.

This odd assortment of protesters and the curious were segregated now as participant and spectator using the cursory criteria of being in the north west corner as the lines of control went in. A smiling curteous android gestered an invitation to join the inner circle, much like a helpfull assistant pointing the way to the showers in Belsen. Rejecting the offer i retired to the deceptive safety of Brian's state erected pen.

To see a puffing fat autobot over a man with camera on the ground, press card being the only evidence i could see of his crime. The cordon then was reinforced and squeezed nicely for the best possible results, snatch squads operating with the pleasure of impunity. “Fuck the police” the chant went out as they performed their perfected violence on the people for peace. “This is not democracy this is hypocrisy” was the cry as nearby a black clad ‘medic’ administered aid almost as skilfully as he had administered blows to another.

Slowly the remnants of the traped crowd were 'delt with' while a group of about 12 unused rubber clad horse riders passed in a lap of fitting honnor.

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Hope died in Parliement Square.

12.10.2006 15:53

It’s been three days since I got jumped by the Police and even though I have had worse beatings from the police in the past, this was some ting extra. Most of the trouble in the past has been because I am black and a cheeky mutha phucker. I am the black cat in the picture above, who looks like he is pain. I am still in pain, not just physically but spiritually as well. I want to write so much and share the day with you but there is no space and other people’s voices are as important as mine. I have never felt like this after a protest, been in more than a thinking person would of and not just in Europe. I have seen blood being shed and people dieing, but the survivors still had hope. It sounds over dramatic and if you were not there you would be right to doubt me, but trust me we were in hell. I t was a sunny day, broad daylight, in the middle of London and al we had was each other. I will all ways love the people who I found my self with inside the police "doughnut". We all tried our best, we tried to keep each others spirits up, helped each other when one of us got hurt, feed each other, shared our drinks and kept our humanity. It was US who helped the press man who was hospitilsed by the police. His colleges said nothing and just took pictures when he was flat on the ground shaking from the pain in his back and his heart condition. It was our peaceful but firm resistance to the "hit squads" that forced the police to change tack-tics. Not because we outsmarted them, but after 3 hours of beating old men, kicking young girls and punching defenseless hippies, they reliesed we were not going to fall to there level of brutality and barbarism. THE PRESS took pictures and acted like they were with us, complaining to each other how badly the police were treating even them. THE PRESS betrayed us and showed us the next day that they are in the same team as the POLICE. I knew all this before, but like Hunter S. Thompson once wrote " you would not protest, if you thought the people in power were evil, real undiluted evil", he came to this conclusion after a riot in the 60's shook him up so much that he stayed in a hotel for days, sober, just thinking about what he had seen. I am in the same position, I don’t want to hide in drugs or in sex. I have to except the truth as I see it and feel it.
I left the "doughnut" at about 5.30pm, the police had been nagging me to leave for about half an hour. I knew I was going to get a summons and was not bothered about it. I am not ashamed of making a peaceful protest and the only thing I was worried about was the search. I had taken a souvenir from one of the cuntstables and did not want to get nabbed for it. So I hugged everybody, or nearly everybody left within the police circle and strolled through. They took my details, which I was honest about and got an escort towards St. James Park. This is the only point I argued about, not to much, I didn’t want to get searched and I did not, well not then any way. You see I had told the truth how I was getting home and they had made it clear that if I returned to the square I would be arrested, but they wouldn't let me take the direct road to Victoria station. So I helped a couple of people who had lost their money, friends, minds, etc, etc. Then I like a fool, strolled through the park trying to get a grip of what had happed. I was shaking from the adrenalin and got a little lost. Near Buckingham palace I got jumped by the police and was told that I was getting arrested because " I was planning to return to the demo". They hand cuffed me and took me to Paddington Green police station. I was slapped around and I was questioned while an officer with a machine gun stood in the corner of the room. THEY brought up the fact that I had been involved with an album that had been mentioned in parliament as an " an album that glorifies terrorism". The guy I work with was mention in parliament, TV, the sun, the mirror etc etc personally and my flat was raided. My computer taken away and then returned...
They told me that " a black boy shouldn't get himself involved with politics" and " that this is my final warning". I can’t lie I was too scarred to talk much and I didn't argue except for a few comments from my natural cheeky side. I refused to play the bad guy and made it clear that they were the Nazis. Most police are not very well read or have a grasp of history, so the shit I said annoyed them. I wish I had kept quite, because with out being charged and after maybe 45 minutes I was dragged through the police station and into a van. They stood on me all the way home. I was dropped off like nothing happened. I was crying like a baby when they dropped me off. I didn't cry when I was told I had prostate cancer, I didn't cry when I lost my pent house and had to live in Hyde park, I didn't cry when I was in prison or when my love ones died. I say this not show that I am hard or shit like that, it's just I was born in the ghettos of Ethiopia and have had to survive in ghettos all over the world, and to survive in the jungle you have train your self to be strong, just so you can survive..But on that day I cried and I am still crying. I am not totally sure why, but my first guess is that I have lost all hope of peaceful protest. So what choice does that leave me, give up or use violence. Both are things I have tried before. I gave up on the people before and made my self rich. I have used violence or the fret of violence so that I could get my own way in life. But I turned my back on all that. I accept poverty as the price for freedom. I use my aggressive side in my creative work, as just as source of energy. But what can I do now, give up or blow up?
So for me, all I can say is my hope died in parliament square..

smallmoney
mail e-mail: spiritualkids@hotmail.com


Solidarity

13.10.2006 09:51

More information about the court hearings for those arrested/summoned:

Tuesday the 17th October 10am
West London court house
Magistrates, county and youth courts
181 Talgarth road
Hammersmith
London
W68DN

Anyone who can get down there to show solidarity and support to those involved will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

anon


Comments

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Why protest in a Blair friendly way?

11.10.2006 17:50

You do realise that the smelly hippy so expert in manipulating events to ensure that they do Blair no harm whatsoever is actually a paid employee of the security services?

Once again, ALWAYS LEARN FROM THE METHODS OF PROTEST GROUPS THAT HAVE ACTUALLY HAD SUCCESS ACROSS THE PLANET.

In the UK recently, that list is pretty much the one entry, FATHERS FOR JUSTICE. Until their destruction by MI5, a tiny number of people were responsible for ALL protests of significance in the UK. Each protest was intelligently designed and executed. Numbers were NOT needed, just brains.

This organisation was not infiltrated at first, because the State could not bring itself to worry about it (representing, as it did, the concerns of many adult males actually working within the security services). However, once Blair slammed his fist into the table, the organisation was doomed because of its small active membership.

Look at the protests of Sep 23, and Oct 9. Both utterly utterly useless. The first was State organised to allow safe venting of anger, while Blair continues in absolute power preparing to trigger WW3 with his genocide of Iran. The second was designed to soak up more focused and radical anger (a good thing- not the 'soaking' but the strong feelings) by allowing a demonstration of overwhelming police brutality.

Pre WW2 in nazi Germany you also had both kinds of demo, and both kinds of State response. The State never desires to "beat-up" large numbers of people- but instead seeks to subvert them (hence the use of Galloway). Smaller, more focused demos, on the other hand, are safe for a State not yet officially a dictatorship to crush ruthlessly.

Some of you think the process of being crushed makes you a martyr, and thus serves a useful purpose. You could not be further from the truth. Indymedia UK exists to give big coverage to fruitless and pointless methods of protest for a very specific reason (think about it). On the other hand, Indymedia UK discourages intellectual discussion designed to allow post-mortem dissection of failed protests, so that protest in the future can be re-tooled to defeat State evil. Again, this is no accident.

If Indymedia UK were designed to cover engineering, then its newswire would be full of stories of bridges and buildings that collapsed soon after construction because of their clearly stupid designs. However, these articles would NOT be outraged at the waste of time and lives, but praising the incompetents for their efforts, and reassuring them that TRYING IS ALWAYS MORE VALUABLE THAN SUCCEEDING.

THE STATE REQUIRES THAT YOU FAIL IN YOUR GOALS. If ***YOU*** were the State, with billions to spend, how would ***YOU*** go about destroying the effectiveness of protest?

I have seen specific articles censored fROm the newswire for discussing cases where State agents have been identified in protest organisations, usually because of court cases. In the UK, infiltration is rarely used to create court cases, since the major motivation is intelligence gathering, and taking control of the group to neutralise its effectiveness. In the US things are very different, because high profile court cases frequently build the careers of various positions within the political system. Thus, the US favours the 'agent provocateur' method where the infiltrator gets to demand the group participate in serious crimes, and if any of the targets even tolerate these discussions, they are arrested under conspiracy laws.

REMEMBER, there are full time people on this site whose major task is to deny that the State would ever be bothered in YOUR group, and anyone who says otherwise is paranoid. They are the same people who censor stories that expose the operation of the security services to this end, whenever possible

Anyway, to conclude, if you like getting you head bashed in, and care so little about your life that you will not complain when Blair is finally able to behead (Hitler's favourite method) protestors like you, carry on the way Blair's agents tell you to act. History shows that revealing the brutality of the State, when people already expect growing wars, serves no use at all. If on the other hand you REALLY want a chance to do some good, break into small cells and create unique protests along the pattern demonstrated by the peaceful protests of Fathers For Justice. FOLLOW BLAIR, OR FOLLOW YOUR BRAIN AND HEART.

twilight


no more war

11.10.2006 18:33

I attended sack parliament because I feel that the government should not have invaded Iraq. I know they justifed the invasion by saying that they wanted to bring democracy to Iraq. How can they bring deomcracy to Iraq when they do not even have proper democracy in this country!

Also does anyone know if there were any consquences from the hospitalisation of the photographer?

raving_humanist


THE UNITED KINGDOM LAW SOCIETY'S BEHAVIOUR

12.10.2006 08:06

DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE AND THE UK LAW SOCIETY


The end of the double jeapordy rule came about recently.

However, astonishingly, the Law Society of the United Kingdom is in court, fighting for court papers to be “gagged”.

The Law Society won their injunction which prevents the media from gaining access to documentation of any case .

On 5th October the Law Society won an extention of injunction for another 28 days to 2nd November2006.


The evidence in court documents includes proof by primary evidence and proof by secondary evidence .

The main reason why the public should have access to court documents lies in the fact that documents in possession of third parties might throw light as to full extent of disclosure. It brings transparency to the court system.

Is the Law Society of the United Kingdom muzzling the press, stopping them from conducting investigations into documents which might have been perjured or often compromised?

One reason for this application for an injunction is that the Law Society may be trying to hide the facts of the hundreds of solicitors and barristers in the United Kingdom who have been convicted of fraud and other criminal offences and the Law Society may be attempting to protecting certain cases from being picked over- cases such as

R v Philip John Lewis [2006]; R v Richard Dawson [2006];R v Simon Rutledge [2006]; R v Timothy Miles [2006]; R v Brian Dugan [2006]; R v Stephen Sulston Williams [2006]; R v Angela Baillie [2006]; R v Stephen Sulston [2006]; R v John Martin [2005]; R v Michael Fielding [2005];R v Christopher Savage [2005]; R v Calum Blyth [2005]; R v Nicholas Pounder [2005];
R v Philip Huxtable [2005];R v Carsten Iversen [2005]; R v Susan Davies [2005]; R v Marylena Shuti [2005] ; R v Chris Christodoulides [2005]R v John Ingram [2005]; R v Ricardo Nardi [2005]; R v David Andrew Gatherer [2005]; R v Ricardo Nardi [2005]R v Gary Beales [2005]; R v Nicholas
Pounder [2005]; R v Christopher Savage [2005]; R v Donald Haling [2005];R v Haydn James Dodge [2004]; R v Timothy Robinson [2004]; R v Richard Dighton [2004]; R v Douglas Allan [2004];
R v Gavin David McCarran [2004];R v Richard McCauley [2004]; R v Roan George Sea [2004];
R v Andrew Arsine [2004]; R v Michael Lee [2004]; R v Ricardo Nardi [2004]; R v Andrew Nicholls [2004];R v John Greenwood [2004];R v Peter Lyle Sharp [2004]; R v Ruperella [2004]; R v Harjit Sangha [2004]; R v Timothy Farrant [2004]; R v Jennifer Hampton [2004];R v Paul Winter Morris [2004];R v Jeremy Cave [2003]; R v Shirley Harrison [2003]; R v Jill Radford [2003];R v John Tate [2003]; R v Basin Mohamed [2002]; R v Louis GATT [2001]; R v Miles McNulty [2001]; R v Donald Pirie [2001]; R v Michael James Palmer [1999].

And hundreds more..

Where there is self-standing evidence, the privilege rule is waived , if only we could see the documents.

The United Kingdom is still a class-biased country and the solicitors and barristers of the United Kingdom are mostly still from the middle and upper classes.

It can be argued that they are only protecting themselves, as Dicey, the constitutional lawyer wrote

“Men legislate..not in accordance with their opinion as to what is a good law, but in accordance with their interest, and this..is emphatically true of classes as contrasted with individuals, and therefore of a country like England, where classes exert a far more potent control over the making of laws than can any single person..

So true is this, that from the inspection of the laws of a country it is often possible to conjecture.. what is the class which hold, or has held, predominant power at a given time”







BEWILDERED


But Why?

12.10.2006 12:34

I was at the square and of course the cops were awful but surely we expected that given the
publicity for the action and the consequent number of police that were likely to be present.
I was told 800. So why after all the preparation did people opt for a stategy where they were
almost certain to be penned in? We know where the cops are vulnerable, fast moving,
unpredicable actions. Perhaps there was some positive outcome of this, perhaps it created
realisation for some how repressive things are becoming but personally I already know this.

I am heartily sick of this "get arrested" "get penned in" culture that seems to be prevalent
amoung radical people today. Sure, there is always a possibility of arrest when one is involved in protest but one doesnt have to go out of ones way to invite it.

Actions dont have to be utterly depressing as this one was. Please, no more pens.

Cotter pin


not just a police bubble

12.10.2006 16:33

MPs received a letter, and a 'P45' in their post.
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/media/2006/08//348912.pdf
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2006/10/353024.html

Anyone trying to see their MP on the day to give them a P45 by hand was turned away by police and told that the supposed democratic right to lobby your MP in person had been suspended - for operational reasons.

suck parliament


Let's Dress Respektable

12.10.2006 17:29

loads of people failed to get near the demo because they had the 'cheek' to dress in black or like a hippy or more likely failed to dress like a sun-reading robbie williams fan...

... i was once at a pro-palestine event and had come straight from a job interview, consequently I didn't look like the usual suspects. the difference in attitude from the public and police was extremely noticable....

... no i know we like to war our baggy clothes, tie-die headscarfs, balck rancid hoodies etc and that we are all beautiful people but maybe we should dress up/down for a day...

...and next time 'illegal' demos are planned people should turn up in tracksuits, shirts and ties (charity shops have them cheap) 'sensible' haircuts, or as a group of german tourists with guide and all....

... when blended in it is harder for the police to pick everyone off...

just an idea for the future

sinisterpenguin


Thank you so much fo such an honest account

12.10.2006 21:07

Thank you so much fo such an honest account of how you felt while it was happening, what you saw from your perspective ...... you are a brave human being, To tell the truth. The truth is not newsm it is the truth, The news is spin.

And this is the situation we are all in. And we cannot say we are engaged in the work for freedom and respect unless we are fully committed, and that not because we may succeed....that because IT HAS TO BE DONE ....there is no other way ...... for integrity, for family, for our descendents .... it is crucial that it is not dependent upon success, or our individual perception of success, it is simply a souls response to prevailing conditions, the response of a healthy, humane human being to iniquity, to the pain of the other. It cannot be a mass marketed message (marketing is dysfunctional) , it cannot be led, it must emerge as the will of people of conscience.

A determined, unending campaign to last untill the last human abuse is resolved. A people so motivated will not cease, irrespective of the threat or actuality of violence the state or it's agents offer. Knowing the states propensity for violence, a person so determined will have nothing to lose, having forsaken success' epheramel glory for the surety of the inevitable. Peace prevailing amongst humanity. A life in balance. They will have to murder every single one of us to stop this movement!

As regards your post demo experience, I cannot imagine how terrible it is to be so threatened, bullied, beaten and herded by men who would doff their caps to the likes of Tony Blair, or any of the current incumbents in Parliament, to a man war criminals!

That they know details of your life, that they pry and poke and in their arrogance quote your own works (without having read the entire lyric, I'll wager!) to you as they seek to indict you in their eyes ..... is repugnant. Morraly abject and confident in their power, they strike a pose we no longer admire.

One of these days I expect a knock on the door. I expect many knocks on many doors. Earlier this year I foretold the death toll in Iraq, and was laughed at, derided as being too overthetop. Yet here we are many months later, and I still say it is a conservative figure of 645,000 dead by violence - and I still say that the wars in Iraq and Afgghanistan are wars of agression, and it is a sick and dysfunctional political elite who have crafted it .......

..... and in the statutes books are laws such as The Legislative and Regulatory Reform Bill, that will allow this government and it's hidden corporate directors to criminalise enough people to fill their prisons four, five times over ...... a process now seen as a fit commercial activity, incarceration and hard labour for profit .... China does it, so why not the UK?

I digress. Slightly. The MOD recently issued a recruitment report that stated that the best recruits were ex-prisoners, and the pay is getting better all the time .... and at the same time the home office under Clarke suggested tagging 'criminals', (all protestors without a licence are criminals!), (assuming there was no place to put them up) and putting them to 'work', an example of a suitable project being the ground work for the Olympics 2012! Figure it out for yourselves, the only way Blair and Bush and their teams are going to escape indictment for these wars once the full story gets out is to TAKE OVER at some stage - because that many people are prepared to have a go, that many people are really, really pissed off. That many people care. And more every day. Every day. You won't find info on these deep seated changes in the mainstream, They want us to feel isolated, alone, fearfull - and it is they who feel fear, for the sense the coming awakening of people as the ugly underbelly of Capitalism, Profit and Control is exposed.

I salute all who took part, all who support you and I say you have taken a step towards our goal, keep taking those steps....... take time to heal your wounds, be with loved ones and laugh, take time for joy .....

Kindest regards

Corneilius

do what you love, it;s your gift to universe

Corneilius
- Homepage: http://www.corneilius.net


Machine gun?

13.10.2006 01:56

Wait, did i read it right? you were interrogated in a room with a MACHINE GUN ?!?!????
Jesus Christ, When i was in the back of the police van i thought I've heard one of the cops tell the other something like "Should we get the gun for this one?" but I've asked him, and he replied that he wasn't talking to me, my senses came back and I realised that it must have heard wrong, but, MACHINE GUN???? wow

I would like to believe that Indymedia is different to the mainstream media, in that it wouldn't comply with the propaganda machine, it wouldn't suppress information and it wouldn't steep to a level of thought control, I did sometimes have my comments disappear, but i believed that this was a technical problem, not a conspiracy. for example the following article :  http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2006/10/353409.html, I had a comment on it, It disappeared so i wrote a similar comment again, there was another one by someone else about the Iraq death toll during the sanction regime, this is now missing too.
But what are we to do? if our illegal protests are orchestrated by the state, to facilitate it's needs, if the most honest media, is somehow manipulated by it too, if all the channels of information are somehow controlled, knowingly or not, by some great unseen evil power. and life feels more and more like 1984, weather we know it or not, what are we to do? How can we stop the thought police, and how can we get information which we are sure wasn't filtered threw the ministry of truth? You will go insane in the age where paranoid delusions can be true, where great conspiracies are uncovered and recovered all the time, where we try to bring about a change, but for all we know, the only change we are making is in our perception. I will carry on going to those protests, I will carry on writing to these forums, I will carry on expressing myself, even when i know, that my very perception is manipulated, I'd rather take my chances of working for "The system", then do nothing at all, but please, when you see missing information, when you know your comments go unseen, and your articles disappear, record these, record as many as you can, maybe in the end, we'll have enough to expose some of the truth to an uncoverable degree. this forum really made me paranoid, but i reuse to go insane, and I still hope you are wrong about the degree of manipulation we are experiencing, but i have no way to prove this or the other.

Fuck this, lets live in an Anarchist Utopia.

OsamaBinCohen
mail e-mail: OsamaBinCohen@Gmail.com


Machine Gun??!?

13.10.2006 14:50

Wait, did i read it right? you were interrogated in a room with a MACHINE GUN ?!?!????
Jesus Christ, When i was in the back of the police van i thought I've heard one of the cops tell the other something like "Should we get the gun for this one?" but I've asked him, and he replied that he wasn't talking to me, my senses came back and I realised that it must have heard wrong, but, MACHINE GUN???? wow

I would like to believe that Indymedia is different to the mainstream media, in that it wouldn't comply with the propaganda machine, it wouldn't suppress information and it wouldn't steep to a level of thought control, I did sometimes have my comments disappear, but i believed that this was a technical problem, not a conspiracy. for example the following article :  http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2006/10/353409.html, I had a comment on it, It disappeared so i wrote a similar comment again, there was another one by someone else about the Iraq death toll during the sanction regime, this is now missing too.
But what are we to do? if our illegal protests are orchestrated by the state, to facilitate it's needs, if the most honest media, is somehow manipulated by it too, if all the channels of information are somehow controlled, knowingly or not, by some great unseen evil power. and life feels more and more like 1984, weather we know it or not, what are we to do? How can we stop the thought police, and how can we get information which we are sure wasn't filtered threw the ministry of truth? You will go insane in the age where paranoid delusions can be true, where great conspiracies are uncovered and recovered all the time, where we try to bring about a change, but for all we know, the only change we are making is in our perception. I will carry on going to those protests, I will carry on writing to these forums, I will carry on expressing myself, even when i know, that my very perception is manipulated, I'd rather take my chances of working for "The system", then do nothing at all, but please, when you see missing information, when you know your comments go unseen, and your articles disappear, record these, record as many as you can, maybe in the end, we'll have enough to expose some of the truth to an uncoverable degree. this forum really made me paranoid, but i reuse to go insane, and I still hope you are wrong about the degree of manipulation we are experiencing, but i have no way to prove this or the other.

Fuck this, lets live in an Anarchist Utopia.
P.S. For all you paranoids, this is the second time i've posted this here...

OsamaBinCohen
mail e-mail: OsamaBinCohen@Gmail.com


question for twilight

14.10.2006 00:16

"I have seen specific articles censored fROm the newswire for discussing cases where State agents have been identified in protest organisations, usually because of court cases."

as your articles are always so well argued, thought out and researched, i'm sure you'll be happy to give these 'specifics'.

i'd certainly like to follow them up.

rikki
mail e-mail: rikkiindymedia@googlemail.com


sorry 4 doing the pigs job

16.10.2006 15:49

i regret spreading fear and my negative vibe through the matrix. i have read all the comments and additions with an open mind and fresh heart. I forgot what i was taught by a group of native Americans who were visiting London back in the day. They taught me “a visionary is not a person who can describe the darkness, but a person who can see through it, they know the darkness and step carefully towards the light". Dont get it twisted i aint a visionary but there is light at the end of the tunnel and all those millions of good people before us are the ones keeping the light on.
Thanks for all the kind emails and i push you all to read the comments and additions, some are under the pictures and in the reflections of the demo, don’t be lazy, they are worth hunting down.
Onelove to CORNEILIEUS and big up to Rikki, Twilight, Concerned Anarchist, Me, and Sledge, i thought what you were saying were propa, even if i didn't agree.
Some good things came out of the nightmare, 1. Met an old friend i had fallen out with, they were in the police bubble as well and we realized who the real enemy was and have fixed up our friendship (i am a donkey and very moody so not the best person at friendships or relationships)... 2. Made peace with another old friend, who contacted me after seeing me in the video of the demo 3. Found out that i have real friends, people have been taking time out to take care of me 4.The moment we refused to give up "the bold guy with a beard" and answered with "i am Spartacus", "no, i am Spartacus" will all ways live with me 5. Had to get some legal advice and one of the women at the solicitors recognized my name and the tendency to get into trouble and contacted me, we use to date... 6. The final illusions have left my mind and i feel free 7.Bumbed into one of the people from the police doughnut and the love i felt and i think they felt was unbelievable, he recognized me from the other side of tube platform, waved and rushed over. We didn't chat much; we just hugged, like we were long lost brothers. Everybody must of thought we were lovers but phuck them. 9. My god-son, who i help to bring up since my friend died 6 years ago, thinks i am a bigger hero than Batman, he is only 9, but i couldn't lie to him about the black eye and why some of my stuff is missing (the police came round on Friday and they are putting me through the ringer) .10. I lernt allot about my self and maybe if i return to the people then i will much more useful in the uprising. 11.i make films and do events and music shit, and the next project is "MONDAY LOVE" every monday in west london, it will be a home for all of us to link, a space to watch films, listern to speekers, dance to live music and to chat each other up. It will be free( some of the groupd getting involved might ask for donations for their projects but that is up to you if you feel their aims). It will give us a chance to build bridges between the differnt movemnets, basically we have a commen aim and a commen enemy. The night will have light and darkness, if the film is dark, then we will have light music(either live music or later with d.js). if the speeker/film is light then we will have dark music...

onelove and like the words written on squat wall said "don’t hate, create"

p.s. For the peeps who asked, on my jacket the two quotes, both were not mine, the first was by peter ustinov " terrorism is the war of the poor and war is the terrorism of the rich" and the second was by Rass Kass “When I die, bury me bucked naked, face down in the grass, So I can fuck the world while y’all kiss my ass”

yes I do get some troble but enuff big ups and questions how I made it, but I got to be real, the complaints and trouble comes from white people, who miss read it or just don’t want to get It, the big ups come from non-whites, they have stepped in when white people have tried to start arguments, especilaly on the tube. Maybe because there is still a huge gap between different comunties, the white people who agreed with the sentement of the quotes do not feel free to say so to me, a black man. The people who see me as antural brother in arms go out of there way to tell me they love the quotes and that I am bopping the streets with the message.

be lucky

smallmoney
mail e-mail: spiritualkids@hotmail.com


Reflections on the day from the Anarchist Federation

18.10.2006 19:55

What worked, what didn't work, whay made sense, what doesn't make sense - a view from an anarchist hill top on the events:

 http://www.myspace.com/afed

Its the latest blog entry there.

A few AF were about and wrote this to share their thoughts and feelings.

Solidarity with those arrested,
Afed

Anarchist Federation
- Homepage: http://www.afed.org.uk


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