We also have on the BBC and the media people who we are supposed to regard as Libya hysterically hailing the end of Gaddafi because he was a brutal dictator, he took away people’s freedom, he didn’t allow people to speak. They also give the impression that he made people’s lives hell.
Are they simply liars?
The answer is yes.
Because if any of that were true, would you not have expected the UN to have noticed when they made examinations of Libya?
The UN put Libya number 54 on its Human Development Index and its human rights council reported on Libya in January 2011. Right before the protests began. If Gaddafi was such a tyrant, you would expect the UN to have noticed. In terms of the Index, Libya was in the High Human Development category. What other countries ruled by brutal dictators are in that category?
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The Human Development Index (HDI) is a comparative measure of life expectancy, literacy, education and standards of living for countries worldwide. It is a standard means of measuring well-being, especially child welfare. It is used to distinguish whether the country is a developed, a developing or an under-developed country, and also to measure the impact of economic policies on quality of life. The index was developed in 1990 by Pakistani economist Mahbub ul Haq[2] and Indian economist Amartya Sen.[3]
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United Nations A/HRC/16/15
General Assembly Distr.: General
4 January 2011
Original: English
Report of the Working Group on the Universal Periodic Review*
Libyan Arab Jamahiriya
1. The Working Group on the Universal Periodic Review, established in accordance with Human Rights Council resolution 5/1, held its ninth session from 1 to 12 November 2010. The review of the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya was held at the 13 meeting, on 9 November 2010. The delegation of the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya was headed by the Vice-Minister for European Affairs at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Abdulati I. Alobidi. At its 17th meeting, held on 12 November 2010, the Working Group adopted the report on the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya.
2. On 21 June 2010, the Human Rights Council selected the following group of rapporteurs (troika) to facilitate the review of the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya: Argentina, Norway and Senegal.
5. During the interactive dialogue, statements were made by 46 delegations. A number of delegations commended the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya for the preparation and presentation of its national report, noting the broad consultation process with stakeholders in the preparation phase. SEVERAL DELEGATIONS ALSO NOTED WITH APPRECIATION THE COUNTRY’S COMMITMENT TO UPHOLDING HUMAN RIGHTS ON THE GROUND. Additional statements, which could not be delivered during the interactive dialogue owing to time constraints, will be posted on the extranet of the universal periodic review when available. Recommendations made during the dialogue are found in section II of the present report.
10. The delegation noted that all rights and freedoms were contained in a coherent, consolidated legal framework. The legal guarantees formed the basis for protection of the basic rights of the people. Further, abuses that might occur were dealt with by the judiciary, and the perpetrators were brought before justice. The judiciary safeguarded the rights of individuals and was assisted by other entities, most importantly the Office of the Public Prosecutor. A National Human Rights Commission, with a mandate based on the Paris Principles, had also been established, in 2007. The aforementioned entities were complemented by newly established mechanisms, such as civil society organizations established under Law No. 19 of 2001
11. Protection of human rights was guaranteed in the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya; this included not only political rights, but also economic, social and cultural rights. The Libyan Arab Jamahiriya referred to its pioneering experience in the field of wealth distribution and labour rights.
12. The delegation indicated that women were highly regarded in the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya, and their rights were guaranteed by all laws and legislation. Discriminatory laws had been revoked. Libyan women occupied prominent positions in the public sector, the judicial system, the public prosecutor’s office, the police and the military. Libyan legislation also guaranteed children their rights, and provided for special care for children with special needs, the elderly and persons with disabilities.
21. With regard to the extent of consultation with civil society in the preparation of the national report, as indicated earlier, the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya noted that a Committee had been established to include all human rights authorities in addressing this matter.
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Political Dictatorships vs. Financial Dictatorships.
28.08.2011 15:05
It's to bad the left can't seem to emerge in the west but now that austerity and war, the lethal combination are back as the staples of the ruling class the left might drop their petty squabbles and do some serious fighting back and I do mean fighting back.
Lloyd Hart
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Spectacles made of wood.
28.08.2011 15:55
It's to bad the left can't seem to emerge in the west but now that austerity and war, the lethal combination are back as the staples of the ruling class the left might drop their petty squabbles and do some serious fighting back and I do mean fighting back."
I think that eveybody is trying at the moment to peer through the swamp of human rights abuses that appear to be ongoing in Libya at the moment and then trying to get a grip on what, exactly, the view of the Libyan people is in this. Its the same with every conflict that we see. The views of the ordinary people are simly ignored by everybody. This is a very important thing that is missed I think.
I think your take on the difference between 'types' of dictatorship' is important, feel much the same way myself. Here are the inevitable facts and figures.
Libya.
Annual growth: 0.6%
Children per women: 6.4
One physician for every 962 inhabitants.
Under 5 mortality rate: 95 per 1000.
Calorie consumption: 114% of required intake
Safe water distribution: 97% of the population has access.
1 Primary school teacher for every 12 students.
These figures clearly indicate that the 'offence' taken by the UK, France and the US to Khaddafi is hardly based on concern for the Libyan people! So there is obviously some other 'problem' which characterises the west's approach to Libya. I think its becoming clear that the rebels themselves are not protesters or freedom fighters, but may well be nationalists, bought and paid for by NATO member states that have some 'tactical' reason to install them in Libya.
I know that the military commander in Tripoli right now is Abdelhakim Belhadj, beleived to be a former Al Qaida frontman in Afghanistan. According to reports currently circulating in MSM, he was captured in Malaysia or Thailand in either 2003 or 2004 and transferred back to Libya and placed into custody. In 2009, after making some sort of deal, he was released. He is now the military commander of rebel forces in Tripoli. Obviously NATO commanders are aware of this as it seems too incredible to beleive that they have been bombing an arabic country on behalf of Al Qaida!!! (although nothing should come as a surpise in the moronic circus of stupidity that is the War on Terror!).
So only one conclusion can be drawn from this. The US, British and French governments through NATO have just given Libya to Al Qaida!
We should all be preparing for a new wave of terrorist atrocities to emerge in the EU in due course, brought about of course by NATO member countries.
David Clegg-Obama.
Global Civilians for Peace in Libya
28.08.2011 21:18
An excellent source of daily updated news and information on the events leading up to the NATO intervention, ongoing political analysis of the situation and recent videos and articles - highly recommended
Global Civilians for Peace in Libya http://globalciviliansforpeace.com/
sam carrington
Rapidly growing blindspot in the construct of the Libya liars
28.08.2011 21:46
Gehlen Ork
Somebody just woke me up!
29.08.2011 00:10
Many thanks for that. Anything else you can post is good. Same goes for everybody else.
Sutton.