Bristol Indymedia offline! What's happening?

if bim hasn't been shut down, and is just experiencing a glitch, it soon will be shut down if people keep posting undisguided incitement to criminal damage on it.

How about learning, and gaining a little bit of intellect. Even if people are going to treat smashing things as a worthwhile tactic, then you don't piss all over the sites you post to, and make them culpable for your actions. You still post it, but use things like the 3rd person when posting! If you even know what such a thing is!

This has been done by brick throwers, who aren't always mindless, but in this case clearly are.

If bim hasn't been shut down, they'll get it shut down in due course.

Thanks for nothing!

Apparently an admin oversight means the server bills haven't been paid since october, and vols are hurridely trying to get it paid.

But, yes, in the hours before the server was shut down, a number of articles which may have constituted incitement to criminal damage were posted, and are the kinds of things which will draw attention to the site from the authorities, and yes, which can be avoided by people posting much the same thing in the 3rd person, etc, without direct incitement.

If you want to post such material, and have the sight stay open, and avoid imcvols being needlessly harrassed by the police, then a bit more intelligence from posters, in how such posts are presented is all that is needed.

Some inevitably will only blame the police, but you're inviting people to blame those taking the actions instead. It seems support is already a little underexplained within the community, and if the community loses a primary news outlet, then it will possibly hinder the anti-tesco campaign, not augment it.

The internet logs everything, even when you don't expect it to.

So use something to anonymize yourself if posting news like this. For example, the program Tor can hide your IP address by encrypting and bouncing your messages around several random people:

Download it free from here:  http://www.torproject.org/

To avoid a few possible pitfalls, use it with the Torbutton plugin for Firefox:
 http://www.torproject.org/torbutton/

"Some inevitably will only blame the police, but you're inviting people to blame those taking the actions instead. It seems support is already a little underexplained within the community, and if the community loses a primary news outlet, then it will possibly hinder the anti-tesco campaign, not augment it."

The kind of actions that have been posted so far over Tesco are not really that helpful. All power to those who are taking Tesco on but even so, smashing things up really does play right into the hands of the police. They get to turn things about face and before ye know it its all about criminal damage, albeit very minor, and the law.

It isn't about the police, its about the brutality of the Israeli state and the jewel in its imperial crown, the corporation called Tesco's.

Smashing things up doesn't achieve a great deal, lets face it, broken glass is easy and cheap to replace. A broken window pane just allows Tesco managers to play the victim and that helps Tesco's apologists to bleat to the police, who in turn will turn it into a predictable issue about nothing at all to do with Tesco. We all know that the police have done this, do do this, and will do this in the future. We know that the police are so political they could run for Parliament

We have to play a more competent game. And that means telling the truth about Tesco. That means identifying what its a cover for. What its real priorities are. Who is involved. It means EXPOSURE.

But for those who have acted so far well done for your efforts, but try to understand that Tesco's must not be offered its own defence.

Hi - An admin issue led to a server issue - but it has all been fixed now and Bristol Indymedia is back online.

Thanks to all those who contacted us to see how things were going. We appreciate your support!

BIMC Vol.

Right, so you're running around smashing up Jewish owned supermarkets because they supposedly have a connection to Israel, although this has yet to be demonstrated. In fact the only connection I can see is er, Jewishness..

You've thought this whole thing through, it's a brilliant idea with no historical baggage at all!

"Right, so you're running around smashing up Jewish owned supermarkets because they supposedly have a connection to Israel, although this has yet to be demonstrated. In fact the only connection I can see is er, Jewishness..You've thought this whole thing through, it's a brilliant idea with no historical baggage at all! "

We are not running around smashing up Jewish owned supermarkets. We are bringing attention to a large corporation that funds the Israeli war machine, that same war machine that slaughters children and then ponces about the world claiming it hasn't done anything wrong!

And we have thought it through, we've been thinking it through since they killed over 400 children in 2009 because they were evil terrorists, and not children!

I couldn't give a flying bats arse about Tesco being Jewish, I just know its the functioning financier of the murderous and bloodthirsty Israeli state.

Still, if you want to make it about being Jewish then go ahead...personally I think thats disgusting, picking on Jews. You should be ashamed of yourself!

How do you work that out? I haven't seen any evidence, apart from someone saying they buy israeli oranges, as do a lot of supermarkets. You won't be smashing them up though, will you?

That's missing the point though.

This isn't really about economic sabotage, it is symbolic sabotage which is about exposure, as you say it should be.

The undercover people have done their bit, now it's up to people like you to capitalise on it and use the opportunity to explain to the media and the public the background to it.

These things work best when the two groups work in tandem and complement each other.