My colleage first of all was in Middlesbourgh doing N.A.R's stall which many a time we have done within Newcastle and other places which we have had no problems with the city councils or police, (well ones like this at least)
Police first arrested Jon for two accounts of Theft, (intent and false representation) and carried him away on the spot, and took him down to a police cell. various infomation was then recived and Jon's house was then raided by police removing his, Computer, N.A.R's campain phone, Megaphone, House keys, Stall, AR campaining materials such as leaflets, banners, placards etc, and various other infomation the police thought was relivent.
When the police raided his home they never had a search warrent which is illegal, whilst Jon was within the police cell he was treated against the human right act's and at first was not aloud a phone call, Jon got in contact with his solicitor whom came down and released him after 7 hours, Jon has a court date in December 2009 about this so called "offence"
A meeting with our solicitors is arranged for tomorrow (hopfully) We are asking people to help us fight this unlawfull arrest this takes away the basics of our human rights! Animal rights groups have been targeted alot in the recent years, many of which have had to close down due to stupid laws getting enforced by the police
(to support please join our FaceBook group, infomation will be updated regulary)
Lets show them that they have made false claims and arrest's!
N.A.R
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It's sick...
15.10.2009 00:38
All the very best for a just solution to all this...
Vegan Panda
help
15.10.2009 03:23
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Legal advice
15.10.2009 05:01
To prepare imagine what you would do if every scrap of paper, every phone number, your computer and therefore internet accesss was gone, all campaign material, bank accounts frozen and that the same was true of everyone in your group. What you will need primarily is contact details, access to money or credit and the warm glow of knowing that for example supporters details are encrypted and therefore safe from prying eyes. Who will take over? What are your backup plans? What if you get remanded? Who will look after the dog/children. Not nice to think about but part of a security culture we all need to adopt, a bit like making sure fire alarms work really, probably will never happen but if it does you will curse yourself for not planning. Just off to check my fire alarm.....
Lynn Sawyer
Cops stoop to a new low
15.10.2009 07:51
This is one of the most pathetic and lowly attempts by the police to stamp out a new AR group - the cops should be absolutely ashamed, for themselves and for the loss of justice, and for the state of our society (oh wait, they have no shame... battering innocent people, killing protesters, fabricating evidence, need I say more?)
As others have said, NO WARRANT = ILLEGAL RAID = SUE ££££££!
Solidarity with N.A.R, we are all right behind you - don't let these dimwitted robocops put you or anyone else off fighting for what is right! :) :) :)
Steve Discombe
Sec 18 PACE
15.10.2009 09:15
Eagle
Pub legal advice from a friend!
15.10.2009 10:20
I’m not an AR person and have been doing other outlaw shit for a number of years now but I’m sympathetic to your resistance and face a similar bunch of state actors to yourself.
Unfortunately the person above is right about section 18 of pace which means that they can search your house whilst you’re in custody (they often use your keys if your nicked with them) my understanding (could be wrong here) is that they can only do this type of unwarranted search if the crime you have been arrested for means that further evidence may be at your house I.E drugs, stolen goods or paperwork, in the case above your comrade appears to be arrested for theft and fraud (IE possible Paperwork or stolen things). It has become common in some circles for the cops to use “conspiracy charges” that come to nothing to permit them to go fishing.
Significantly if the police are searching a shared house they are only allowed to search the room(s) of the person who is in custody and any shared areas (IE hall, living room) I have successfully forced the police to comply with this on more than one occasion when I have been in a house that is being raided in this way. You have to stand your ground but if you (as opposed to the person in custody) are not being accused of a specific crime then they have no right to look at your stuff.
Obviously if no one is in your house to demand this then plod will look at everything they can lay their filthy hands on, probably leave your door wide open when they leave, and a “receipt” you’re having a laugh. Also note that this only applies for section 18 searches if they have a warrant it’s for a named property (though not your neighbours!!) and their probably going to be looking through everyone’s underwear.
On another note Facebook? You sure that’s a sensible way of communicating? It is funded by the CIA because it means that your social networks are laid bare for the state to see. Don’t do it kids stay free!
Tolstoy
I agree, get legal advice, BUT ......
15.10.2009 11:53
What they can't do here (and I suspect where you are too) is use the fact that they were entitled to enter to conduct a search for things if they do not find the person there but that last gets tricky. Thus might have a good case for a motion to supress if incidental to the search for the person a handgun were found in a shoebox (the person could NOT have been hiding in a shoebox) but not if found in a closet (person could have been in the closet).
MDN
But...
15.10.2009 16:33
So please get your facts right before posting exaggerations and mis-information on Indymedia.
Raidman
Nevertheless
15.10.2009 22:30
*However*, if the arrest itself was bollocks you can still sue for wrongful arrest.
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cheers for the support
16.10.2009 20:26
I personly didn't realise they didn't need a warrent after they have arrested you, Jon is on bail till December 2nd 2009. We have spoken to other various animal rights groups whom of which have gave us loads of support espeacialy Jon, Our solicters say we have a good case against the police and they will be sorting various things which they have done wrong, which I cannot tell you because I have been advised by a colleage of mine not to. Various things they did sieze have now been realised which we are over the moon about. Although we've gotten around 1\4 of all of our campain materials back. I'll infom you all about this when we get some more infomation thanks again
Newcastle Animal Rights
newcastle animal rights
Nice One
25.10.2009 16:28
PS - how about varying your days/times a little? especially as the nights are drawing in, perhaps you could do the odd Thursday after the OAP's have collected their pensions!
Bunce
Nice one, Steve Discomb
26.10.2009 18:29
Are you that old tosser who lives in Wallsend?
What on earth are you rambling on about, of course the old bill have real criminals to chase; thats why these guys are such hero's to us lags; they tie the old bill up in knots, take them off the street, and generally spread them so thin on the ground that we can go about our business with some degree of impunity...... perhaps I can spin your gaff in Wallsend (then again you probably dont have anything worth nicking)
Bunce