Swine Flu leaked from Lab - More Fears For Proposed Camden Lab

But.......... Will you stop posting 'wild' 'scary' claims that are (within this article) unsubstantiated.

You might as well publish claims like "In the event of an earthquake, experts claim, virses could leak from the Camden labs"......... no factual basis but you found a linky somewhere!

Here is the background to your story........ ie putting some facts behind your knee-jerk claims.

Firstly, your story is a Daily Mail story , and true to Daily Heil form, they provide little more information.
 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196507/Swine-flu-pandemic-caused-accidental-leak-laboratory.html


Thyey do mention the New England Journal of Medicine, the full report is here:
 http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/361/3/279

Yes there is mention of the possible Russian lab leak, however there are several other factors that are behind this outbreak:
"Although the immediate genetic event that led to the emergence of the new pandemic threat was a reassortment between two influenza A (H1N1) swine viruses, these two viruses were actually the products of at least four independent avian-to-mammalian cross-species transmissions, with at least four previous reassortments of gene segments among avian, human, and swine-adapted viruses (Figure 2). One consequence of this intertwined history is that S-OIV shares three gene segments with current seasonal human influenza A (H1N1) virus and three segments with human seasonal influenza A (H3N2) virus."


Upshot: Next time you want to rant against the Camden Lab, get your sources and facts straight..... you might be approaching the paranoid conspiracy level with this, but you will not gain any support re-hashing Daily Heil articles.

Bobs comment that,in the event of an earthquake,experts claim viruses could leak from the Camden labs etc. What evidence do you have of this being a possibility or not,since you seem adept at opening cans, what containment procedures are to be put in place in the event of such an event. What are the measures of isolation of contamination from air,waste water, soiled waste and cross contamination of the aforementioned twixt each or combinations of such. What are the procedures in the event of an attack on the structure and the evacuation plan in such an emergency.
Someone must have the answers ? Bob?

I don't believe that this particular virus leaked from lab because it was first found next to factory farm which is thus by far the most likely and explainable cause. The idea of a virus being leaked from a lab isn't fiction or hype though regardless if you dislike the Daily Mail. The idea of having a major virus lab in any city is obviously a crazy cost-cutting exercise. In the long run, Murphys law trumps Occams Razor.

1977 Swine Flu leak from US lab
 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/did-leak-from-a-laboratory-cause-swine-flu-pandemic-1724448.html

1978 Smallpox leak from English lab
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox#Post-eradication

2007 Foot and Mouth leaks from English lab
 http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2007/nov/22/footandmouth.haroonsiddique

Mandy Ford is talking to herself again.

She has multiple personalities......

SHACWATCH is run by Josie Htichens of London N4. Josie Hitchens does the Camden Sanity Brigade website along with her SHACWATCH page.

Someone released the irony virus......... we are all doomed I tell ya, doomed!

I suppose If I wanted to go and find out about procedures I could, my point was that the first post was effectively lifted from the Daily Heil with NO REFERENCE at all. In the interest of drumming up any suport at all a half decent, fully referenced article would have been more effective.

We did not "lift our info from the Daily Mail". What we did was add the Daily Mail article to our myspace page.
As for drumming up support against the lab...if there is a leak from the lab [such as has happened with Swine Flu] then Daily Mail readers and writers will be affected every bit as much as anyone else by the consequences.
I suppose there could be a Daily Mail readers only special quarantine zone....

Cheers forrepying James, no offence meant but do you see the point I'm trying to make?

As for looking on your myspace page........... myspace page layouts make my eyes bleed so I rarely follow links to myspace!!