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Comments
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maximum solidarity
28.11.2008 16:35
captain pugwash
solidarity from London
28.11.2008 17:45
Troop out of Iraq, troops out of Afghanistan, troops off our campuses!
Jeremy Bentham
Great stuff
28.11.2008 17:47
Solidarity from Sheffield!
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Plod
28.11.2008 20:39
Trevor Williams
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Have you maybe misread this Trevor?above article links the ban to illegal Iraq
29.11.2008 04:40
Indymedia activists are exactly the kind of people who went to defend democratic Spain against nazi aggression with international brigades almost a deacade before the allied governments, finally got their act together to stop nazi fascism.
They are not directly responsible in the way SS units murdered Jews or the KGB murdered Kulaks & Polish officers, but the UK army does help maintain a system that forces about 100,000,000 mainly young people to die in poverty every decade in the last 30 years,according to UN figures. This poverty doesnt help lower population levels as many in poverty doing subsistence farming& cheap factories have more children to supply manual labour. Some might argue we are being too nice, certainly this college has made the right move,well done
Universal Democrat
A reply
29.11.2008 15:59
My point is this, the real agenda behind anti-army actions such as the one at Kingston Univeristy is simply that the army are considered by many on the radical left to be a central prop of capitalist society and therefore to be abused and insulted on all occassions. You must realise that the army are a professional body who go where they are sent by the (democratically) elected government of this country. They cannot refuse to undertake operations as a result of their individual beliefs. You, and the students at Kingston are not motivated by pity for the people of Iraq but by a hatred of the armed forces.
Finally I find it ironic that given hisor her title, Universal Democrat is violently opposed to the involvement of the arny in Iraq given that (however imperfectly they are doing it) their aim is to install a democratic governement. Perhaps he would rather the people of Iraq live in a brutal police state or under a fanatical Islamic theocracy.
Trevor Williams
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clever trevor
30.11.2008 01:21
- Yep.
"You must realise that the army are a professional body who go where they are sent by the (democratically) elected government of this country. They cannot refuse to undertake operations as a result of their individual beliefs."
- which is exactly why we oppose the army; it is an insult our ability to reason that we are asked to join a body who you have to obey no matter what. The Left has never claimed there is no need for self defence and no need for armed groups, what we say is that people have the ability to make up their own mind. "Just following orders" is not good enough - but you wouldn't get that, would you Officer? I love how you cling to the army's professionalism as some kind of defence too - as if being good at your job validated whatever it was! There are people out there who are just brilliant at making landmines that look like toys (etc.)
"You, and the students at Kingston are not motivated by pity for the people of Iraq but by a hatred of the armed forces."
- both.
bill stickers
Soldiers of the World Unite, you have nothing to loose but your Generals
01.12.2008 15:23
In fact many of us who oppose war feel comradeship with lower-ranks soldiers and sailors. Soldiers made the Russian Revolution by refusing to fight. The sailors in Kronstadt took the revolution so far that they came into conflict with the Bolshevik government. Banning the OTC is an act of solidarity with soldiers & sailors since it is an act of opposition to the bastards who repress soldiers.
No War but the Class War!