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BBC Message Boards - Scandal Of A Nazi Occupation

Emma | 04.07.2008 09:51 | Anti-racism | Gender | World

More evidence of a widespread campaign of ID theft on the BBC Message Board System.
A cancer sufferer is publicly bullied by racists on its disability message boards, whilst simultaneously being harassed by the British National Party at home and at work. Her messages show a definite link between a BBC message board hacker and attacks carried out by the BNP.

The BBC's attempts to cover up the significant Nazi presence on its message boards has been an issue for some time now. [1]
The most important point raised in the Melanie Phillips article is the apparent complicity of some BBC employees in this deception. The experiences of victims of ID theft on BBC message boards, indicate that this would almost certainly be a person, or persons employed on the BBC 'Central Communities Team'.

Just over a year ago a disabled lady posted the following message on the BBC disability message board 'Ouch':

“Message 1 - Jun 15, 2007
About 18 months ago I had my home address stolen by
a computer hacker. He knows I am disabled and is
using my vulnerability to harass me at my home address.
Police not interested in vandalism, graffiti, trespassing etc.
Please help.”

Shortly after this she was banned permanently from the board without any warning or explanation from the 'Central Communities Team'. Quite harsh for a 'first offence', especially as bullying and harassment is routinely tolerated on BBC message boards and troublesome posters are seldom banned.

Subsequent events however, provided the first piece of technical evidence that BBC message boards are being used for computer hacking. The BBC had already refused in writing to investigate the possibility that a hacker with a multitude of fake identities was using its boards for ID theft. They claimed it was impossible to investigate these allegations because the Data Protection Act prevents them from gathering IP addresses. This claim was then investigated by the woman who had been banned. The disabled lady had her computer's hard disc completely re-formatted, loaded with fresh software and re-registered on 'Ouch' with a new user name and e-mail address. She managed to make this post:

“ Message 35, Jun 30, 2007
True equality at last!”

which received the following friendly welcome:

“Message 36 - , Jun 30, 2007
Yup certainly is LOL. smiley

Welcome to the board btw.”


She was banned immediately after this, again without any warning or explanation by the 'Central Communities Team'. The 'evil' Message 35 above has even been expunged from the BBC messageboard archives and today looks like this:

“ Message 35, Jun 30, 2007
This posting has been hidden during moderation
because it broke the House Rules in some way.”

'Broke the House Rules'?! I wonder how 'true equality at last!' breached their sacred code.

However, this disgraceful treatment did reveal one thing. Despite claims by the BBC that they don't record personal data, SOMEONE on its message boards is stealing IP addresses. The disabled lady's IP address was the only way the 'Central Communities Team' could identify her as the whistleblower – everything else had been changed.

One year on and BBC Ouch and Cane and Able message boards are still the hacker's personal fiefdom. The only difference now is that BBC Ouch are getting their retaliation in first. Any reference to computer hacking and the subsequent harassment of disabled people in their homes, is given the blanket definition 'Conspiracy Theory'. It is difficult to see how the staff at BBC Ouch and Cane and Able, can be so sure that disabled victims of this type of crime are all liars or fantasists. Who are they to say what is, or is not, going on in other people's lives? Even more bizarrely, BBC Ouch and Cane and Able have forbidden victims to even discuss what is happening to them. In the new Ouch 'guidelines' someone called ' The Wizard of Ouch ' is filled with pious concern that disabled people could be harmed in some way and the message board might fall into ruins, at the mere mention of ID theft. However, this piety only manifests itself as a very specific form of censorship. Censorship which prevents disabled people from discussing how they are being abused by a computer hacker. At all other times it is a case of “anything goes”.

Two years ago a female cancer victim was being publicly bullied to death on the ' Ouch and Cane and Able ' boards, whilst simultaneously being harassed by the British National Party in her own home. The 'Wiz' didn't see anything disruptive or upsetting in all this. Yet it was obvious that some really nasty form of racial harassment was connected directly to the 'Ouch' message board. The Wizard of Ouch must have been too busy banning genuine disabled people from the board, to notice this message posted by the BNP:


“Message 1 - Mar 17, 2006
STRESS MANAGEMENT

No one but you knows your secret place.

You are in total seclusion from the hectic place called work.

The water is crystal clear...........................

You can easily make out the face of the person you're holding

underwater.”


The female victim states clearly that someone on the 'Ouch / Cane and Able' boards has her home address and that this sinister 'STRESS MANAGEMENT' posting is designed to intimidate her.

“Message 3 - Mar 17, 2006

Alert to hosts - this poster has described my house!
please read the content of post. On another forum
these posters have put a series of horrible pictures! .
Whilst you may not take this seriously
I would advise you to check it out”


The other forum the woman mentions in her posting, was one run by ' Black Information Link '. This particular message board was hi-jacked and destroyed by the ' Ouch / Cane and Able' hacker. Using a mass of fake identities he bullied all the genuine black people off the board. Anyone who put up resistance had their computer hacked, their address stolen and the bully boys from the British National Party turned up on the doorstep. The woman - already weakened by cancer - confirms the BNP link in this post:


Message 3 - Mar 19, 2006

........... in my hovel and broken down home with
the BNP on the threshold, cowards that they are -
they just like picking on women!

The woman then describes exactly how her private house has become a 'broken down home with the BNP on the threshold':

“Message 43 - Jan 4, 2006

............ conspiracy theory or not or just a total
co-incidence I had my front window
kicked in on the 30 of December, too.”


She refers again to the BNP's campaign of internet harassment:


“ Message 27 Jan 3, 2006

Our [disability] organisation has been targeted before -
we had an e mail doctored and signed BNP
and leaflets scrawled on.......................”

“Message 18 - Mar 8, 2006

I have spent 2 days of my well earned leave
trying to understand why we have received
some fairly 'racist' and explicit mail -
That was not a game and was fairly unpleasant!”


Then another report of intimidation carried out by the BNP - three of them against one disabled woman. Brave men indeed!


“Message 13 - Feb 23, 2006

....... we were threatened with violence a
couple of weeks ago by three bully boys pretending
they wanted to rent an office in this centre

They parked in the accessible parking bay where
our staff and service users need to park -
those with mobility impairments and blue badges!
I asked them to move and 2 of them, with the cheek
that they were actually coming in the building, told me to f.....off.”


The sheer weight of evidence means it ought to be obvious to even the densest BBC administrator, that the message boards are comprehensively hacked and are being used as a tool for real world racist harassment. The following messages give a general overview of the chaotic shambles, which the 'Central Communities Team' are trying to cover up.

“Message 101 - Feb 17, 2006
Shortly after posting message 94 my computer was attacked.”

“Message 142 - Feb 19, 2006
Well well.
Just when I was enjoying myslf my pc was attacked again.
Trojan Horse.”

“Message 1 - Jan 2, 2006
Just to let those who are interested -
our Disability issues forum was attacked by hackers
[on the 30th of December] - they totally wiped out the Forum
and left this message ' Spastics - We Own You' O Team!”

“Message 43 - Jan 4, 2006

............ conspiracy theory or not or just a total
co-incidence I had my front windows kicked in
on the 30 of December, too.”

“Message 47 - Jan 4, 2006

Agreed - and it does sound more than a
coincidence that your window was broken.

“Message 53 - Jan 4, 2006

Knowing the area, I suppose there's every
chance it was the young Nazis again.”

“Message 58 - Jan 5, 2006

Hmmm... the more I read this, the more it
sounds like a case of harassment to.”

“Message 121 - Feb 18, 2006

After posting message 114 my internet connection was terminated.”

“Message 23 - Mar 22, 2006

my laptop at home has been stopping as I
just get to a couple of sites - I get on the site and
then it closes down, I get on again and then it closes down.”

“Message 132 - Jan 26, 2006

I think my computer has been playing up since
complained privately to the Beeb on another matter.”


Towards the end, the woman became more ill and distressed. It is possible she has since passed away – harassed to death by a computer hacker and the BNP.


Message 2 - Mar 19, 2006
“I don't understand your post, but over the
past few weeks some of your messages have been
troubled, and troubling, ..........Has someone been
harassing you in some way, or is it something
from your past coming back to trouble you?......”

“Message 3 - Mar 19, 2006

No not from the past the present.”


This was one of her last messages. Shortly after that the woman disappeared.



The BBC's senior management are completely detached from the day to day running of the Corporation. They enjoy the financial advantages of employing outside companies to moderate their message boards, but when innocent people are harmed, the victims are just ignored. We are not even allowed tell other people what has happened to us, because the BBC cannot face the truth about the endemic criminality present on its message board system. Nobody should have to witness the public torture of a woman suffering from cancer, on a BBC disability message board. The Central Communities Team have stated repeatedly that they are very experienced in rooting out computer hackers on BBC message boards. This argument is used to silence all victims of crime on BBC message boards. It can be formalised thus:

A) we are infallible

therefore >

B) anyone who says they have been a victim of ID theft and real world harassment originating from BBC message boards, must be a liar and a trouble maker.

I wonder if the BBC Board of Governors approves of this as a core philosophy, for running one of Britain's largest publicly funded bodies?

If you are concerned about the way the BBC is being run, I would be very grateful if you would paste the link to my article (copied from your browser's address bar above) on as many internet sites as you can.





 http://www.melaniephillips.com/articles-new/?p=524 [1]








Emma

Additions

Conspiraloons ahoy!

04.07.2008 13:23

The BBC Ouch forums do not require and do not store your home address therefore it is impossible for these "hackers" to have stolen anyone's address from there. All they ask for are a username, password, secret question (for password resets) and an email address to send the sign-up confirmation.


Your definition of the word "evidence" could do with some work as well:


“Message 121 - Feb 18, 2006

After posting message 114 my internet connection was terminated.”

Sign of a Nazi hacker conspiracy or sign that you're on Virgin Cable? There isn't a big room at the BBC from which they have control over every person's internet connection - sometimes the connection just drops.



“This particular message board was hi-jacked and destroyed by the ' Ouch / Cane and Able' hacker. Using a mass of fake identities he bullied all the genuine black people off the board."

How do you know it was the same guy if he had so many different identities? And how do you know that the only people left were fake black people - and why the hell would they want a forum where a bunch of white guys can pretend to be black? (What am I saying? this is the internet. Someone, somewhere's role-playing a muppet orgy over irc.)



This is my favourite:

"The disabled lady had her computer's hard disc completely re-formatted, loaded with fresh software and re-registered on 'Ouch' with a new user name and e-mail address."

So, basically, she was banned and tried to create another user account, got caught and had that second account banned also. Or to use your terminology, she created a fake identity - which is what you have been complaining about - and she got booted for it.




It's quite clear that you're not a technical person so here's a nice non-technical rundown of what happened:

1. Woman may or may not have been subject to some shitty behaviour by some skinhead douchebag.

2. Woman has a paranoid fit of the Daily Mails and decides that it must be a conspiracy of evil hacker-nazis against her.

3. Woman repeatedly posts accusations that the BBC have allowed her personal info to be stolen and that they are covering up the crime - despite the fact that this crime would have been impossible to commit.

4. BBC moderators get fed up of random conspiraloon disparaging their site and damaging their reputation and so they ban her.

5. Woman signs up another account - this get's blocked because it is against the Ts&Cs of the site to create a new account after you have been banned.


You see, while they don't necessarily record the originating IP address of every single post, they probably do record the IP address of every account that they have banned and so were able to recognise that she was trying to create an alternate account while still being unable to thwart the hordes of evil, baby-eating, nazi-terrorist-hackers.

MonkeyBot 5000?


Comments

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Try To Get Out More

04.07.2008 14:53

The problem with this hacker is he is so caught up in being a fake that he has forgotten how real human beings behave. Most people reading this are either not going to make any comment at all, or they will focus on the main issue - a woman with cancer was set upon by a group of fit men. They certainly wont write a whole page (!) of cr*p about how none of this can be true etc.

Most people don't like bullys, racists, or hackers. Nobody would bother to write all your garbage unless they were one or all of the above.

Emma


What

04.07.2008 15:51

Monkeybot said.

Miserablist


It just doesn't make sense

04.07.2008 16:08

Come on Emma, it's been fairly pointed out that the Ouch boards don't even take home addresses.

Then you jump to the conclusion someone has been hounded to death with no evidence. No one on this site is a friend of the BNP (apart from the odd troll), but there are more concrete issues around Griffin's gang of paedophiles thugs and morons to deal with than internet phantoms.

i am not a name, i am a free number


I've been rumbled!

04.07.2008 20:01

"Most people don't like bullys, racists, or hackers. Nobody would bother to write all your garbage unless they were one or all of the above."

Or maybe I'm just someone who takes greater than average offence at seeing verifiable nonsense and wild speculation being presented as fact.

Maybe I also have to much time on my hands at work.



...or maybe I'm the hacker!!

MonkeyBot 5000


Beware of neo-Nazi Trolls

06.07.2008 07:14


Watch out, there's trolls about.

Usually the trolls are the work of Simon Darby, Mark "Paedo Boy" Collett and the clearly insane Lee Barnes.

Regardless of the truth in the fascist hacker fear, (Griffin and Darby have MI5 links, and Hitler's Nazis loathed disabled people by murdering hundreds of thousands of disabled people in the Holocaust), if you wanna stop the BNP, you need to oppose the Red Shite and Blue Festival taking place in a months time, folks.

Troll Destroya


Real Humans?

06.07.2008 14:05

"Come on Emma, it's been fairly pointed out that the Ouch boards don't even take home addresses."

The home addresses were stolen from private letters on the victim's hard disc.

The problem with all of these comments is that when you speak to real people, off the internet, they are universally appalled that a disabled woman should be attacked by the BNP. Even the the 'Troll' comment doesn't ring true I am afraid. So really, I can only reiterate my original advice - you do need to get out more and learn to mimic normal human responses, if you want to appear genuine.

Emma


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