Documentary on Channel 4 last night (Thursday 8/3/07)..... Did anyone else wtach it??
What did you think?
In this documentary the scientists where trying to blame the 'far-left' group for infiltrating the 'Enviromenatl 'Green' Movement', for a 'voice', after the collaspe of the 'Iron-Curtan'....
Any more information with links of discussions and dialogues in reaction to this documentary would be very welcome.
So it’s the same old conspiracy theory that we’ve been hearing from the denial industry for the past ten years, and it carries as much scientific weight as the contention that the Twin Towers were brought down by missiles. The programme’s thesis revolves around the deniers’ favourite canard: that the “hockey-stick graph” showing rising global temperatures is based on a statistical mistake made in a paper by the scientists Michael Mann, Raymond Bradley and Malcolm Hughes(11). What it will not be showing is that their results have now been repeated several times by other scientists using different statistical methods(12); that the paper claiming to have exposed the mistake has been comprehensively debunked(13) and that the lines of evidence used by Mann, Bradley and Hughes are just a few among hundreds demonstrating that 20th century temperatures were anomalous.
The decision to commission this programme seems even odder when you discover who is making it. In 1997, the director, Martin Durkin, produced a very similar series for Channel 4 called “Against Nature”, which also maintained that global warming was a scam dreamt up by environmentalists. It was riddled with hilarious scientific howlers. More damagingly, the only way in which Durkin could sustain his thesis was to deceive the people he interviewed and to edit their answers to change their meaning. Following complaints by his interviewees, the Independent Television Commission found that “the views of the four complainants, as made clear to the interviewer, had been distorted by selective editing” and that they had been “misled as to the content and purpose of the programmes when they agreed to take part.”(14) Channel 4 was obliged to broadcast one of the most humiliating primetime apologies it has ever made. Are institutional memories really so short?
So now the whole weary business of pointing out that the evidence against manmade climate change is sparse and unable to withstand critical scrutiny while the evidence in favour is overwhelming and repeatedly confirmed must begin all over again. How often do scientists have to remind the media that a handful of cherry-picked studies does not amount to the refutation of an entire discipline?......
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Details of the 'Independent experts' from the film
09.03.2007 17:23
Phil
modern times
09.03.2007 18:17
santerre
So What
09.03.2007 19:43
M Durkin
advertising
09.03.2007 20:05
Why is anything other than crap expected from mainstream media dependent on advertising and government whims?
unnecessary
Tom & Paul say it well, Channel 4:
09.03.2007 21:51
"The science shows, in mercilessly numeric terms, that even if we move quickly to cap the emission of greenhouse pollutants, the consequences of global warming will soon become quite severe, and even murderous, particularly for the poor and the vulnerable. And in the more likely case where we move slowly, the impacts will verge on the catastrophic.
"[T]he [climate change] skeptics can go to hell, and we're basically going to ignore them."
(2002, p.10)
Denial will have to be dealt with in its own way. Those who don't need convincing of the urgency of the need to do what we can to prepare or mitigate the effects of climate change/global warming also have to realise that we may well already be in the situation where the shit is going to hit the fan in one way or another, regardless of whether or not "our" glorious "leaders" (government & corporation complex, with military and science as their respective sources of enrichment) get their act together.
The truth of the matter is is that we are out beyond the ken of our species ... and in many respects, have been heading way out of depths for many generations. Might I also cite the title of Ward Churchill's seminal work as descriptive of this predicament we now find ourselves in: "on the justice of roosting chickens". We brought this upon ourselves and if some want to deny it, can we really blame them? We may be facing the end of the world as we know it, have known it for the last 35,000 years' at least. Was Mary Shelley's "Frankenstein" so off course, after all. Science has made lives easier, but has also rubbed some fundamental lamps, letting the ghosts of Shiva loose to dance dervish as we recoil in horror and disbelief. Denial is understandable under these circumstances. I don't want to be thinking about it. It is unthinkable!
Nonetheless, the work carries on ... regardless. The jury is out: it is likely that we will just go from bad to worse. The current predictions are just that - calculations based on a partial grasp on a corner of complexity - and we've been wrong ... oh so wrong, before. From recent experiences with weather changes and "freak" storms, from available data we can anticipate that even though we cannot predict the magnitude or even specifics of direction accurately, we can safely assume that it is going to become a lot worse. And there is work to be done. Lots of work.
A Concerned Citizen
e-mail: dying@planet.earth.corp
Lead author of IPCC report's response to the film
12.03.2007 14:42
http://www.jri.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=137&Itemid=83
Rebecca Lush
Watch the programme before commenting on it
12.03.2007 15:15
A fascinating program full of interest and scientific facts, unlike the global
warming bandwaggon which is full of speculation and 'models' that assume
what they are trying to prove.
Paul Matthews
e-mail: etzpcm@gmail.com
Typical Lazy Monbiot
13.03.2007 14:09
the intrinsically plausible proposition that variable solar activity is the primary climate variation driver as propounded by some pretty prestigious, albeit "cherry picked" climate scientists. Monbiot does not address this, because (one suspects) he can't and chooses instead bizarre bluster of the "it carries as much scientific weight as the contention that the Twin Towers were brought down by missiles" kind.
Is /anybody/ suggesting WTC was brought down by missiles? Monbiot just makes himself look completely ridiculous here.
hardtruth
On cherry-picking studies
15.03.2007 17:44
Dan Myers
e-mail: dan@floeintl.com