[So you have to have a story behind it to make up for the distance between false flag opps in Indonesia all the way across to Iraq and Afghanistan that's a huge leap to cover without a terror tale to hook into? What about the Icon of the Terror movement G W Bush? At least we know he's guilty! Osama bin Laden hasn't been found guilty of anything, yo!] And Indonesia has been blowing up bombs in their own country just to move people out of villages for years!]
Iraq and Afghanistan that's a huge leap
In the hushed confines of a suburban abc studio somewhere, Sally Neighbour decided to be tool for propaganda for john hoWARds abc. The pair were obscure figures at the time, but that would soon change.
The idea being that all the State Sanctioned Terror in Indonesia had to be covered up because the Australia government under john hoWARd had conspired with the CIA to explode a bomb in Bali in 2002 to strenghen the hand of the Coalition of the Killing Fields In Iraq and Afghanistan.
The horrific bombings of the Sari Club and Paddy's Bar in Bali, on October 12, 2002, considerably strengthened the hand of the CoW in pursuing the War on Terror. Here was an opportunity to harden the hearts of the Australian and US public against Islamic fundamentalists. It was also a chance for the Indonesian government to justify harsh measures in the war against terrorists and secessionists, such at those in the province of Aceh.
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/03/107756.php
Their plot:
[Allegedly according to Sally] a Melbourne-based sheikh, Mohammed Omran, headed a fundamentalist Ahlus Sunnah wal Jama'ah Association, now regarded as the most radical Islamic group in Australia. [But by whom? Sally? ASIO? john hoWARd? The CIA? The American Military Industrial Complex? PNAC? The evil USA?
[According to Sally] His [alleged] visitor was the Indonesian preacher, [and teacher] Abu Bakar Bashir, [allegedly] future head of the terrorist group, Jemaah Islamiah (JI) [A man who was obviously, in the eyes of the world, set-up to take a fall for a conspiracy over the bombings, and JI a demon name that President Susilo Bangbang Yudhoyono had never heard of before he became President of Indonesia.]
[But who says this? Sally? ASIO? john hoWARd? USA? CIA? Who?]
[Allegedly according to Sally] Bashir, on his first trip to Australia, needed the blessing of the country's pre-eminent conservative cleric in order to begin building his "jemaah" or community, which would later become the Australian branch of JI. [Allegedly] Omran was willing to oblige?
[Who said that? No mention of any history, people who can confirm this? Why wasn't he visiting friends on an open invitation? As we do? So now we have a fiction demon 'JI' and now the people who are going to build this demon?]
[The plot thickens?]
[Allegedly according to Sally] Their warm handshake in the Preston mosque signified the start of an enduring alliance between their two groups, strengthened over almost two decades by a web of personal and organisational links.
[Like the abc has links? Links to CNN. Links to AFP. links to Reuters. Links to John hoWARd. Links to the Neo Liberals. Links to Labor. Links to ASIO. And links to the USA. So it's not at all unusual to have a few links, cells and friends, hey sally?]
CIA agent returns to Indonesia last July?
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9576
CIA agent spreads terror fears in Australia
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9576
hoWARd, will keep chilling you!
More: http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9465
Aussie ministers plot to kill dissent
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9530
[But allegedly according to Sally] This alliance is central to the sprawling network of Islamic militants now under investigation in Australia?
[But the links to the illegal and degrading war on terror in Iraq and Afghanistan that killed at least half a million to a million people don't have any links to the sprawling network of western militants and neocons in the USA? The USA and the Coalition of the Killing which includes the American Military Industrial complex, and the CIA all-responsible for the worlds latest Holocaust. Why no investigation there Sally?]
[Allegedly? According to Sally, not your best neighbour at all] On the face of it, the two groups held distinctly different aims. Omran's Ahlus Sunnah group, largely Middle Eastern in origin, existed to promote an austerely literal interpretation of the Koran. Bashir's group comprised mostly Indonesians dedicated to securing an Islamic state in their homeland.
[But even if it were true and once again there is no mention of the supported knowledge to back up these claims, and is that not like any other party, Labor or Liberal, Lib/lab? Or Catholic and Protestant? Family Last even? Or what about Christian Democratic Party's Fred Nile even?]
[What are they trying to do in Australia? What are their main aims? Interpreting the Bible? What about Family Last? Money is your best option? How about vote Liberal? Because it's western it's okay then? At least not sinister hey?]
[And it shouldn't surprise anyone that someone in Indonesia had different politics and values than the STATE SANCTIONED TERROR in Indonesia, if you ask me? What about the corrupt rogue state? I think they have just been criticised by the rest of the world on the 15 anniversary of the East Timor Massacre.] The whole legal system is corrupt in Indonesia as well, from the top down, but not for a song! Just ask Michelle Leslie]
Amy Goodman Recounts the East Timor Massacre 15 Years Ago
http://perth.indymedia.org/index.php?action=newswire&parentview=36613
[Allegedly according to our good neighbour sally.] But the two men and their followers shared a common world view. They were adherents of the Salafi school of Islam, which holds that the faith must be practised just as it was in the days of the Prophet Mohammed in the seventh century, hence their long robes and untrimmed beards.
[Now it's the way they dress is it Sally? Sure we haven't seen people with long robes and untrimmed beards before in any other religion? Or in Australia?]
[Allegedly according to Sally] They also believed that the Koran allows Muslims to fight if their religion is under threat. Omran and Bashir shared too an admiration for the emerging icon of the jihad movement, Osama bin Laden.
[Self Defence is everyone's religion Sally? I think I'll start calling you Silly Sally? So where is the link with the 'Self Defence movement? What about wars of aggression? In anycase, even though Indonesia has nothing to do with the war on Iraq and Afghanistan, an opportunity by the CIA, Indonesia and Australia being complicit to harden the hearts of the Australian and the US public against Islamic fundamentalists to start their illegal and degrading war of aggression?]
[So you have to have a story behind it to make up for the distance between false flag opps in Indonesia all the way across to Iraq and Afghanistan that's a huge leap to cover without a terror tale to hook into? What about the Icon of the Terror movement G W Bush? At least we know he's guilty! Osama bin Laden hasn't been found guilty of anything, yo!] And Indonesia has been blowing up bombs in their own country just to move people out of villages for years!]
[Allegedly according to Sally?] Omran was well-connected in international Salafist circles. A Jordanian-born migrant to Australia, his friends included the British-based Al Qaeda luminary Abu Qatada, whom Omran hosted in Australia in 1994. Interviews with bin Laden and Abu Qatada were among the items featured in the online magazine Nida'Ul Islam (Call to Islam), published by Omran's acolytes in the Islamic Youth Movement and read widely in Australia, Europe and the Middle East.
[But in this world people are well connected in international circles, like the G-20, so what difference does that make to this story? People talk and socialism is the human game otherwise life would be dull, dull, and boring Sally? Some interviews you say may have taken place by a publisher who has a means of making a living, just like you as a journo? So you say they interviewed bin, where has he bin anyway? And Abu Quatada, so what Sally?]
[Allegedly according to Sally] Bashir also needed a forum to spread his teachings in Australia. And Nida'Ul Islam was happy to provide one, publishing a series of speeches and essays by Bashir and his JI co-founder, Abdullah Sungkar.
[So what Sally? Even if that was true, that doesn't make a preacher and teacher anymore sinister than you? In fact with the Holocaust in Iraq it may even make you and your lot the worst of the worst offenders, with the abc being complicit in publishing lies for the war of aggression?]
Abdul Rahim and Abdul Rahman Ayub
[Allegedly according to Sally?] The Indonesian twin brothers appointed by the JI chiefs to run their new branch in Australia were welcomed into the Ahlus Sunnah group's fold. Abdul Rahim and Abdul Rahman Ayub regularly attended its prayer room at Haldon Street, Lakemba, in Sydney's south-west, and encouraged their followers to do likewise.
[I noticed you did not show any interviews for this story? What you say is therefore hearsay? Regardless if two Indonesian twin brothers decided to run or open a branch of Islam just like a branch of Catholics or a Branch of Hillsongs or a Branch of Commonwealth Banks where should they attend? Perhaps they should open a branch in Sydney and attend to it somewhere else? So they opened a branch you say and they went to the place they opened? So what?]
[Allegedly according to Sally] Abdul Rahim was at the time married to the Australian woman Rabiyah Hutchison, with whom he had a daughter and two sons, Mohammed and Abdullah, who are both currently under arrest in Yemen, accused of plotting with Al Qaeda figures to import arms into Somalia.
[Once again let me clear that up, sally?]
[But speaking through a lawyer, Hutchinson denied she or her sons were terrorists or had trained at terrorist camps. The media, however, denounced her as the former wife of Abdul Rahim Ayub, an Indonesian whom ASIO has accused of establishing an Australian branch of the Indonesian terrorist group, Jemaah Islamiah, in Australia during the late 1990s. Hutchison cannot travel overseas because the Howard government confiscated her passport last year on “security” grounds, acting on ASIO advice.
According to the media, Hutchison also “has links” to the 19 Islamic men arrested in Sydney and Melbourne a year ago on terrorist charges, because her daughter from her first marriage, Rahmah, is married to Khaled Cheikho, one of those arrested. Apart from fuelling the xenophobic witchhunt against Muslims, the “Yemen plot” could be an attempt to breathe new life into the campaign generated around those arrests.]
http://perth.indymedia.org/index.php?action=newswire&parentview=36383
[I'd go along with 'breathing new life into a Howard Government campaign generated by Sally? So Sally, Allegedly? You say] A powerful and headstrong personality, Hutchison became the matriarch of the radical Islamist community in Australia. She would later travel to Afghanistan, where she married a member of Al Qaeda's leadership shura, Mustafa Hamid, also known as Abu al Walid al-Masri.
[Seems Sally has inside information if it were true? What if she wasn't an Australian and there are other places in the world? A person travels? So what! Why not get her to say it?]
[Allegedly according to Sally] The ties between the two groups were cemented in 1999 with the marriage of Hutchison's eldest daughter Rahmah (the child of an earlier marriage in Indonesia), to Sydney man Khalid Cheikho, another regular at the Haldon Street prayer room. Cheikho is currently awaiting trial on charges of preparing for a terrorist act, after his arrest in Sydney last year under ASIO's Operation Pendennis?
[As above get her to say it?]
[My oh my how this plot thickens? Sally you good neighbour, you? Do you ramp it up like this for all your friends?]
[Allegedly according to Sally] The JI connection to Ahlus Sunnah was further evidenced when Omran traveled to Indonesia, apparently in 2000. According to an account provided by one of his followers to the Australian Federal Police (AFP), the purpose of Omran's journey was "to visit Abu Bakar Bashir."
[Wow this is a hit? If it were true? You say he actually went over to Indonesia and he was to visit someone, regardless of who that someone was, he visited a preacher and a teacher, according to you and an AFP stooge? Are these people confined? Should be confined? Shackled perhaps? What, Sally? Makes me wonder if you travel? Did you meet up with someone that you weren't suppose to? Did you know they were sinister witches? Or even profiled as possible scapegoats?]
[Allegedly according to Sally] At the time, JI was in a state of transition, from a grass roots lobby group campaigning for an Islamic state in Indonesia to a fully-fledged terrorist organisation. According to the account given to the AFP, Omran returned from his visit "highly unimpressed saying they (JI) are a very disorganised group."
[Well I could have said the same about the story tellers USA, PNAC, American Military Industrial Complex, CIA, FBI, the john Howard government and in fact the entire Australian political and media establishment according to the links that I have set out in this article.]
[That the plot was that of neo-cons who are the real criminal terrorists who made up a demon called JI in Indonesia with the help of a few CIA experts who were well planted there, stooge informants, like Sidney Jones and Rohan Gunaratna a state of transition, from a grass roots CIA false flag opp, so called specialists and story tellers into a fully fledged terrorist oranisation that went on to kill tens of thousands of people in Iraq for oil!]
Now you say, "Omran has since denied that he traveled to Indonesia expressly to visit Bashir, claiming he went there on a lecture tour to give sermons in mosques and universities, and that he met up with Bashir in Jakarta in his spare time."
[Makes sense to me!]
[Allegedly according to Sally] Omran's Sydney lieutenant, Abdul Salam Zoud, who was named by French investigators in 2004 as an Australian recruiter for the jihad, was also well acquainted with Abu Bakar Bashir.
[Once again if it were true did Abu Bakar Bashir know what Abdul was named for and also if it were true. The French should be believed? On what basis?]
[Allegedly according to Sally] Zoud and Bashir met up in Malaysia in early 2000, when Zoud was leading a party of Australian pilgrims home from the annual hajj to Mecca. The party, which included Melbourne man Jack Thomas, stopped over in Kuala Lumpur, where they were greeted at a city hotel by Bashir?
Australia: The torture of Jack Thomas
Given the High Commissioner’s role and the reference to “high places,” there is every indication that the Australian government sanctioned these abuses. What is indisputable is that, acting on its behalf, the Commonwealth Director of Public Prosecutions sought to secure convictions that depended entirely upon the completely unreliable statements that Thomas made in his desperation to stop the beatings, avoid being sent to Guantánamo Bay and be allowed to go home.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/20988
Jack Roche
[Allegedly according to Sally] Bashir was accompanied at the time by Australian JI member, Jack Roche, who later described the encounter to the AFP. Roche had been seconded by JI's operations chief Hambali and was on his way to Afghanistan to meet the Al Qaeda leadership to plan an attack in Australia.
[CIA made demon 'JI' Member let's remember who made up JI and then who linked Jack Roche to it!] Attention seeker Jack Roach who would have no credit in any court of law unless they gave it to him! Read the link!]
Convicted attention seeker Jack Roche called by afp as informant
A convicted 'attention seeker' Jack Roche now an afp informant has given hearsay evidence at the committal hearing for 13 men facing [alleged] terrorism charges in Melbourne.
http://sydney.indymedia.org/node/38379
Roche was subsequently convicted and sentenced to nine years in jail for plotting to blow up the Israeli Embassy in Canberra.
[But not unlike some attention seekers who would like to become a martyr for a cause? Again that doesn't mean they had any means as in Roche's case or any know how to carry out a plan or a bombing as in Roche's case but just that they had a story to tell like many story tellers.]
[Allegedly according to Sally] As the most senior figure in the Australian jihadist network, Omran was briefed by JI's local leaders on Roche's plot.
[Allegedly according to Sally] The Ayub brothers were opposed to Hambali and Roche conducting an Al Qaeda operation [Oh! Was it and Al Quaeda operation?] On their turf in Australia without consulting them. So they went to Omran to seek his advice.
[Perhaps we should set up a meeting with all these players on national television and get them to tell us this truth? Because it is one thing to say these players did this or said that but another thing to prove it Sally?]
[Allegedly according to Sally] Omran argued strongly that Roche must be stopped. The Ayub twins relayed his advice back to Bashir in Indonesia by letter and Bashir later instructed Roche to abandon his plans.
[As above]
[Allegedly according to Sally] Omran - with some justification - has since claimed credit for having averted Roche's bombing. He also claimed to have alerted the authorities to the plot. However Australian officials deny that he did so. ASIO and the AFP remained oblivious to Roche's activities until after the Bali bombings in 2002.
[As above]
Evidence in another terrorism case suggests that, despite his reservations about the JI organisation, Omran acted as a conduit to Bashir for his followers in Australia.
[As above]
Jack Thomas
[Allegedly according to Sally] The material supporting this emerged in the trial of Melbourne man Jack Thomas, who was found guilty of receiving funds from Al Qaeda, but had his conviction overturned on appeal after it was found that his interview with the AFP in Pakistan was obtained under duress. Like many of Omran's followers, Thomas refers to the cleric as Abu Ayman, meaning "father of Ayman."
[But later on Appeal found not guilty according to torture with duress being the reason not the outcome, Sally? That word might be a little difficult for Sally because she's not had here balls squeezed for info]
Australia: The torture of Jack Thomas
Given the High Commissioner’s role and the reference to “high places,” there is every indication that the Australian government sanctioned these abuses. What is indisputable is that, acting on its behalf, the Commonwealth Director of Public Prosecutions sought to secure convictions that depended entirely upon the completely unreliable statements that Thomas made in his desperation to stop the beatings, avoid being sent to Guantánamo Bay and be allowed to go home.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/20988
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/08/120670.php
[Allegedly according to Sally] Thomas told the AFP that before he left for Afghanistan he sought "Abu Bakar Bashir's advice through Abu Ayman" about whether he should go or not. The reply that came back from Bashir via Omran was: "If I want to go, ok, and if I want to stay, ok. I shouldn't feel forced to go to Afghanistan."
[Allegedly according to Sally] Omran himself counselled Thomas against making the journey. He saw Thomas as a "hot head" who would likely get himself into trouble. But Thomas ignored his advice.
[Even if it were true what was he going there for? Lots of people have hot heads? And why can't we get these people together to tell their own stories?]
[Allegedly according to Sally] Before leaving Australia in March 2001, Thomas was briefed by another Sydney follower of the Ahlus Sunnah group, who had recently returned from Afghanistan and had been questioned en route by Australian police.
[As above]
[Allegedly according to Sally] Thomas was warned to take care for his personal safety and to "concentrate on the security of the sheikh." He assumed this was a reference to Omran. Thomas told the AFP that because of Omran's own contacts with people linked to Al Qaeda in Afghanistan, Omran's "security was in jeopardy."
The plot thickens
[Allegedly according to Sally] Thomas was one of three Australians who traveled to Afghanistan in early 2001 for training in Al Qaeda's Camp Faruq. All three were regular attendees at Omran's Michael St mosque in Brunswick and their travel was arranged by a fellow Ahlus Sunnah follower at the mosque.
[As above]
[Allegedly according to Sally] By the time Thomas arrived in Afghanistan, Rabiyah Hutchison had made her home in the Afghan capital, settling with her sons Mohammed and Abdullah in one of three houses in a small residential compound in Kabul.
[As above]
[Allegedly according to Sally] One of her neighbours in the compound was a Taliban commander and Al Qaeda intermediary known as Abu Qatada (though not the same Abu Qatada referred to above.) He was a Kenyan who was wanted over the Al Qaeda bombings of two US embassies in Africa in 1998.
[Links links and more links?]
[Allegedly according to Sally] Hutchison introduced Thomas to this Abu Qatada, who grilled the Melburnian before sending him to the tatziri (beginners) course in Camp Faruq.
[But why can't Hutchison speak for herself? Sally?]
[Allegedly according to Sally] In Camp Faruq, Thomas was joined there by the two other Australians whom he knew from the Ahlus Sunnah mosque in Melbourne. One of them was a 20-year-old former Canberran convert to Islam named Ahmad Kalek. The other was another convert, a Melburnian, who cannot be named for legal reasons.
[And for legal reason that does not mean, even if it were true that they were terrorists or even organising terror]
Thomas, Kalek and the other man completed the beginners course in Camp Faruq, although Kalek found the training so gruelling that he wanted to leave.
[The beginners course, please explain?] School of believers? Boy Scouts Islam style? Club Led?
[Allegedly according to Sally] Kalek later told the AFP of how they met Al Qaeda chief bin Laden while they were there. He recalled: "Our group had a short conversation with Osama bin Laden during which he asked who we were and where we were from. He also asked how the Muslims in Australia were going."
[And we've all heard that one before Sally but it doesn't mean that it is true. Like I said let's get all the players together and get them to tell the story including your mate where has he bin Laden and then when they tell us and not you then the story will have made it also possible to believe the bullshit that is coming out of your journalist mouth. This is wild story telling not the truth the whole truth so help me God!]
[Allegedly according to Sally] Ahmed Kalek, who is also known as Abu Jihad, was later detained in Egypt and held in a Cairo prison for several months before being sent home to Australia. He has not been charged but remains a person of interest to the Australian authorities.
[So what does that mean Sally? It means more bullshit so why say it? I know, john HoWARd's war on terror and you're in the terror club led to promote propaganda and fear for a price?]
[Allegedly according to Sally] Kent was one of 22 men arrested in Melbourne and Sydney last year during Operation Pendennis, and was recently committed to stand trial on charges including being a member of a terrorist organisation and providing support to Al Qaeda.
[The very reason for this article, hey Sally?]
Silly Sally! Don't Dilly Dally! john HoWARd's abc.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/indepth/featureitems/s1791796.htm
Related:
Lawyers denied access to secret truth in scapegoat case
In preparing his defence case, two of his lawyers, solicitor Adam Houda and barrister Peter Lange, saw information that the Commonwealth says they should not have had access to.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/37489
Anti-terrorism laws target non-suspects: expert
The forum will look at Australia's legal response to terrorism but would be minded to think of it as scapegoating for john hoWARd's illegal and degrading war of aggression on Iraq that's errorism on purpose. In short, the 'fear' of the politics of a war criminal!
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/57379
Australia: Anti-Muslim “terror plot” unravels
Without waiting for any evidence, Prime Minister John Howard and his ministers immediately claimed that the arrests provided disturbing new proof that “home-grown” terrorists were preparing attacks in Australia. Howard told parliament: “If they have broken the law or been involved in terrorism, well they deserve everything they get.”
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/57319
BRING DAVID HOME NOW!
National Day of Action calling for the repatriation of David Hicks - 5 years of imprisonment & torture at the hands of the US army is more than enough: SATURDAY 9 DECEMBER 2006 - 12NOON - SYDNEY TOWN HALL Wear orange - bring drums
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/55226
The Sydney Morning who?
Mum asks Downer to help sons in prison and the Sydney [Boring] Herald thought they would help out?
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/48600
Sydney Daily Telegraph (Murdoch owned) skirt the anti terror censorship laws with deliberately false yet cunning stories?
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/47186
Australian media seizes upon Muslim cleric’s comments to whip up xenophobia
There is now an inescapable necessity for all those opposed to militarism and war, and committed to the defence of democratic rights, to develop an independent political opposition to the xenophobic campaign being directed against Muslims. No faction of the media or political establishment has any opposition to the drive to militarise society under the banner of “Australian values”, and all are complicit in the cultivation of anti-Muslim communalism.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/45493
Homegrown war criminal's 'a serious problem in Australia'
Jump, scream, run and hide the muswims are coming to get you! Everywhere I turn there is another terrorist. I opened the sugar bowl this morning and there was a terrorist cockroach just waiting to get me, after stealing my sugar mind you. So we must be very alert and very alarmed. How else would a war criminal get re-elected after a holocaust and what looks like a third interest rate rise this year? Mostly, Howard's goals can only be attained, amongst other things, if he pushes race hate buttons and whilst you continue to live in fear.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/44930
Another Gov't Scapegoat Denied Freedom
However the governments criminal acts and clergy all lie and cannot be believed to the gross dissatisfaction of the general community which have no confidence in the violation of human rights and dignity based on hearsay and rhetoric about thought crimes.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/39895
Scott Parkin and Iraqi Asylum Seeker win court victory
In a huge victory - Scott Parkin and two Iraqi asylum seekers have won the right to view their negative ASIO security assessments in the Federal Court. The decision will expose the governments bogus attempts to link peace activism and asylum seekers with terrorism.
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/11/129332_comment.php
Lawyers denied access to secret truth in scapegoat case
In preparing his defence case, two of his lawyers, solicitor Adam Houda and barrister Peter Lange, saw information that the Commonwealth says they should not have had access to.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/37489
THOUGHT CRIME IS NOT A CRIME! DROP THE CHARGES!
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/15547
Doubtful justice in Lodhi sentencing
In Lodhi’s case, this has meant that the threshold of what constitutes “beyond reasonable doubt” has been lowered to an alarming degree. Justice and civil rights are the victims of this “war on terror” in which the government and security agencies benefit politically from convicting supposed terrorists. It is likely that Lodhi’s conviction and sentencing demonstrates, as in the Thomas case, that terror laws are being used to jail people who are not terrorists.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/21361
Professor George Williams says
University of New South Wales law expert Professor George Williams says the matter could be tested in the High Court.
He says the case will reduce people's confidence in the justice system.
"The fact that a jury is not involved, the fact that the criteria are loaded against the person because the standard of proof is significantly lower than it would normally be, mean that even though a judge, I have no doubt, will attempt to give a fair hearing and do his or her best - doesn't matter," he said.
"You've got the system stacked against someone.
"This is not a normal process and indeed that's exactly the problem with it."
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/08/120828_comment.php
Draconian scapegoat orders 'stacked against' Thomas
A constitutional law expert says the system is stacked against Melbourne man Jack Thomas.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/21072
'Control order' should frighten all Australians
Greens Senator Kerry Nettle today condemned the issuing of a 'control order' to Jack Thomas by the Attorney General Phillip Ruddock and renewed The Greens call for this arbitrary power to be removed from law.
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/08/120775_comment.php#120787
Australia: The torture of Jack Thomas
Given the High Commissioner’s role and the reference to “high places,” there is every indication that the Australian government sanctioned these abuses. What is indisputable is that, acting on its behalf, the Commonwealth Director of Public Prosecutions sought to secure convictions that depended entirely upon the completely unreliable statements that Thomas made in his desperation to stop the beatings, avoid being sent to Guantánamo Bay and be allowed to go home.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/20988
Jack Thomas served with control order
‘Anyway who cares about civil liberties should be outraged at this decision. We hear about authoritarian governments putting people under house arrest in Burma – well, now it’s happening right here in Australia!’
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/08/120670.php
QLD errorism suspect prepares bail application?
Appearing via video link today for a mention, Amundsen regularly spoke over the magistrate, saying he wanted to make another bail application because he now has technical information to prove that the devices in his home were not bombs.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/20627
Lodhi gets 20 years for thought crime?
But what effect of what bombing attack? Thought crime attacks cause no vicitims or I might add no real threat to anyone! More fear has been created by the authorities baseless charges of crimes that were never committed and by the parrot press screaming out terrorist.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/20387
Amendments to proposed anti-terrorism/liberty directives have been dismissed in the Western Australian Parliament.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display/20365/index.php
Convicted attention seeker Jack Roche called by afp as informant
A convicted 'attention seeker' Jack Roche now an afp informant has given hearsay evidence at the committal hearing for 13 men facing [alleged] terrorism charges in Melbourne.
http://sydney.indymedia.org/node/38379
American Concentration Camp located at Guantanamo Bay
The American Concentration Camp located at Guantanamo Bay must be closed. Let the people go free. Pardon them. Show them Christian charity. Stop this evil.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/20129
Lodhi lawyer welcomes Thomas appeal win
Perhaps the abc should get another Walkley award?????????????????????
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/19969
If they were any tougher they'd Rust!
Tougher terrorism laws predicted after Thomas ruling?
A top defence lawyer says he is concerned the Government might push for tougher anti-terrorism laws as a result of the quashing of convictions against Melbourne man Joseph Terrence Thomas.
abc 18 Aug 06
Judge quashes Thomas conviction
This is fantastic news. Congratulations to Jack and the Thomas family! It is a vindication of everyone prepared to fight for basic rights -- and makes the bus trip all the more important. We're in the process of putting a press release out. Good news for a change!
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display/19874/index.php
Prosecution playing 'dirty tricks' in terrorism trial
The defence lawyers for Melbourne's 13 terrorism suspects have accused the prosecution of playing dirty tricks.
The prosecution today played a taped conversation between defendants Shoue Hammoud and Bassam Raad in which the prosecution alleges Raad suggests the authorities that put other members of their group in jail need to be slaughtered.
But in a heated volley of legal argument, defence lawyers said the reference to slaughter instead refereed to Raad's fears about what could happen to his friends in jail.
The defence lawyers said the prosecution was trying to drum up outrageous headlines to excite the media and to compound the fear being peddled in the Australian community.
The defence lawyers said the prosecution should just get on with the evidence.
ABC 18 Aug 06
Court hears fishing expedition letter 'referred to sacrifices to a cause'
The letter reads: "My love, How I miss you already? What would I ever do if we were separated for more than a day? Inshallah I will never find out. May the only cause for our separation be the cause of Allah. And may he grant me paradise alongside you as queen of your Hoor." [kiss, kiss, kiss, hug]
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/08/119746.php
Faheem Lodhi - another non-terrorist jailed under Australia's 'anti-terror' laws?
Jack Thomas, a non-terrorist, has been jailed under Australia's anti-terror laws. Now Faheem Lodhi has been convicted under the terror laws on flimsy, circumstantial evidence. It is likely he is another non-terrorist jailed for political purposes under the terror laws.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/19641
Terrorism scapegoat was kidnapped, court hears
The Melbourne Magistrates Court has heard a man charged with [allegedly] directing a terrorist organisation was kidnapped last year.
The court was told Abdul Benbrika alleged in a conversation recorded by police that he was questioned and hit during an abduction which lasted about six hours.
The defendant did not indicate who was responsible for the alleged kidnapping.
Magistrate Paul Smith heard police initiated an internal investigation into the alleged kidnapping, but it was dropped after numerous efforts to contact Benbrika.
HoWARd's abc 15 August 2006
Magistrate allows AK-47 photo to prejudice scapegoat trial
No doubt that the magistrate seeks to incorporate the media throughout the proceedings of these innocent men because of a lack of concrete evidence and just so they can be used as scapegoat's for hoWARd's war on terror.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/19476
Former medical student to stand trial in kangaroo court!
Lawyers for the 23-year-old argue the charge is not constitutionally valid because they say the laws cannot cover alleged acts committed on foreign soil which do not have an Australian connection.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/19027
Student loses bid for High Court hearing
Lawyers for the 23-year-old argue the charge is not constitutionally valid because they say the laws cannot cover alleged acts committed on foreign soil which do not have an Australian connection.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/18535
Attorney General Ruddock is Oddball over anti-terrorist laws!Attorney
Attorney General Ruddock attacks different laws.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/17746
Australia's Guantanamo
Have the 13 Muslim men arrested under Australia's new anti-terror laws been subjected to Guantanamo Bay-style conditions? It's an allegation being made by Civil Rights Defence
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/18341
Major Michael Mori writes re David Hicks
The US Supreme Court has ruled the special Guantanamo trials illegal. An acceptable solution from the Americans is likely years away and our Government has run out of excuses not to act. Nearly 40,000 Australians have put their name to the Open Letter calling for David Hicks to be repatriated. I hope you'll join us now by clicking on the link:
http://www.getup.org.au/campaign/DefendAustralianRights
International Protest Day calls for the end of Guantánamo Bay
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/17099
Judges weigh 'Joseph Thomas's' appeal! Get your facts right!
What would she have imposed for stealing a passport?
http://newswire.indymedia.org/en/2006/07/843328.shtml
Joseph Thomas conviction immoral
AN EMBARRASSING conviction based on TORTURE IMMORAL
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/07/117441.php
Standardising terrorism in the prison population?
Try giving us hope, access to our communities, a sense of caring by the outside community. And letting us out to make restitution instead of building festering anger.
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/07/117580.php
Scapegoats accused 'exploited' by guberment prostitutor
The rest of the prisoners had to stay in jail in AA maximum security segregted with no contact with human people in a box within a box with no fresh air or sunlight with the worst of the worst offenders.
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/07/117553.php
Jury indicated it could not reach a verdict, but was ordered to push on?
These charges were that he collected maps of the Australian electricity supply system in preparation of a terrorist act (15 years), BUT WITH NO DETAILS ABOUT THE PREPARATION ACCEPT MATERIAL TO SUPPORT THOUGHT CRIME? that he sought information on chemical prices for the use of explosives for a terrorist act (life), BUT NO SOUND EVIDENCE ABOUT WHETHER THE CHEMICALS WERE GOING TO BE PURCHASED OR USED FOR THE USE OF EXPLOSIVES OR A TERRORIST ACT and that he possessed a document with information on the manufacture of poisons and bombs in preparation for a terrorist act (15 years). THAT HE LIKE MANY OTHERS MAY HAVE DOWNLOADED FROM THE INTERNET WHICH IS NOT ILLEGAL USUALLY?
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/06/115129.php
A dangerous precedent: Australian man convicted of “preparing terrorism”
Since 2001, the government has seized upon the “war” declared by US President George Bush for both domestic and international purposes. Under the guise of combating terrorism it has participated in the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, diverted attention from mounting economic and social problems at home and legitimised previously unthinkable police state-style measures, including semi-secret trials, “preventative” detention and the ability to impose life sentences without any evidence of an actual terrorist act.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/16401
Secret evidence used in Australian “terrorist” trial
Lodhi was bundled into the court building in shackles, in full view of the media. The display was intended to convey the impression that he is a violent and highly dangerous individual. Like several other Muslim men charged with terrorist offences in Australia over the past year, Lodhi has been denied bail and held in virtual solitary confinement in a “super max” prison, cut off from family and friends. Under state and federal “counter-terrorism” laws, the traditional presumption in favour of bail has been scrapped. It will only be granted in “exceptional circumstances”. On receiving a confidential affidavit from the Commonwealth, Magistrate Michael Price imposed a number of secrecy orders despite vigorous objections by lawyers for Lodhi and by media organisations. The orders mean that the affidavit itself will remain suppressed, and the media is barred from disclosing even the general nature of the material relied upon in it.
http://www.indymedia.org/en/2004/12/866066.shtml
Merry Christmas Mr Kent and Mr Haddara
After and ASIO fishing expedition they were charged last month with knowingly belonging to a Melbourne-based terrorist group, that did not exist.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9799
ASIO raid family home
This is an assault on civil liberties, for all Australians - on the eve of Human Rights Day 2005 that marks the day in 1948, that the United Nations adopted the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Shame hoWARd shame on you!
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9706
Tight security impedes scapegoat case
Indymedia has learnt this includes a bank account his supporters say was set up to fund legal representation for Muslims facing any kind of legal action. The prosecution is understood to allege the money was intended for terrorist purposes.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9693
Some evidence is prejudicial to national insecurity
It has been previously reported that he is facing nine charges and is accused of planning a major terrorist attack on Sydney defence sites and the electricity grid using downloads off the internet and having 100 rolls of toilet paper to wipe his arse after low level bombs and farts. Shit!
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9682
Terrorism suspects' custody conditions 'inhumane'
"This treatment is very cruel and inhumane and what I've put forward to the Premier Morris Iemma to intervene and put an end to this scandal," he said.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9657
DPP should lose the plot!
Now why would the DPP do that? Based on some notion I suppose, that john hoWARd (the hangman) wants to use Thomas's butt again, to raise the fear stakes in the introduction of the new Anti-Liberty-Dissent Directives!
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9617
Things and places identified
He said Mulahalilovic worked as a handyman, lived with his wife, parents and brother and, with the help of family members, could provide around $1 million security to ensure his freedom until trial.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9423
Dangerous handyman terror threat?
But the only mother of SATAN here is John HoWARd and his new Ant-Terrorism Bill!
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9418
Terror suspects 'kept in dark'
"They're all kept in solitary confinement, they're kept in Guantanamo Bay style conditions and they're very oppressive," he said.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9413
What are the dangerous chemicals police found when they went fishing?
If police say they were making bombs when they were painting motor vehicles then the only terrorist act that wasn't prevented was when police went on a fishing expedition.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9395
Man shot by police in fishing raids
But there is no such thing as an independent investigation team in NSW because police investigate themselves and cannot be relied upon ever.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9392
ASIO fishing expedition makes arrests
Are you satisfied truthseeker? Well I'm not this is just another public relations exercise that no one can prove. But trust us we know best?
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9384
hoWARd, ruddock, ellison, keelty and news ltd plotted chaos
Now they go on in the article to describe themselves as intelligence officials? But I'm sorry to say that any group of people who ask another group of people to believe what they believe based on no evidence is amongst the most unintelligent and lost group of people the world has ever known.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/8663
Houses raided over 'possible' political attack plans?
"Furthermore, nothing is reasonable about a raid on people's homes because for an alleged possibility. For those sorts of enquiries one should approach a 'soothsayer' and if you get the all clear only then should they approach people via the front door with the appropriate warrant to search one's home. A warrant based on concrete evidence that has been filtered by a juge or magistrate of the court to see whether the material is frivolous or vexatious."
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/8659
If he'd been given his passport he'd be a free man
During his trial Mr Mallah's defence counsel said he was only trying to sustain the media spotlight when he sold details of his plans to an undercover officer posing as a journalist.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/8192
Melbourne man charged over ASIO links
Apparently this victim will appear before the Melbourne Magistrates Court later today and hopefully he won't be sent to the nearest "AA" Super-max prison for "social isolation" just in case ASIO aren't telling us the truth!
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display/7545/index.php
Australian prisoners' linked to Bin Laden: Ten News
Hatzistergos: "For example, because of a perceived risk that they may engage in, or incite other persons to engage in, terrorist activities."
Terrorist prisoners held in a "box within a box" with no "fresh air or sunlight" at Goulburn HRMU may incite alleged terrorists in Long Bay to blow up Long Bay Prison's Twin Towers?
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/regions/liverpool/2004/11/300344.html
Andrew Sullivan and the Tortued Truth
Mr. Habib said he was taken to a room with hooks on the wall and a barrel, set sideways like a roller, on the floor. His arms were stretched out, he said, and each wrist was handcuffed and fastened to a hook on the wall. By his description, the only way not to be left hanging was to stand on the barrel; an electric wire ran through it. Mr. Habib said he believed the interrogators in that room were Pakistani.
Mr. Habib said that when he refused to confess to being part of a 1995 terror plot, one man turned on the current. He lifted his feet to avoid the shock, he recalled, and he was suspended from the wall.
"I lost everything," he said.
http://bodyandsoul.typepad.com/blog/2005/02/theres_been_a_s.html
The idea being that all the State Sanctioned Terror in Indonesia had to be covered up because the Australia government under john hoWARd had conspired with the CIA to explode a bomb in Bali in 2002 to strenghen the hand of the Coalition of the Killing Fields In Iraq and Afghanistan.
The horrific bombings of the Sari Club and Paddy's Bar in Bali, on October 12, 2002, considerably strengthened the hand of the CoW in pursuing the War on Terror. Here was an opportunity to harden the hearts of the Australian and US public against Islamic fundamentalists. It was also a chance for the Indonesian government to justify harsh measures in the war against terrorists and secessionists, such at those in the province of Aceh.
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/03/107756.php Their plot:
[Allegedly according to Sally] a Melbourne-based sheikh, Mohammed Omran, headed a fundamentalist Ahlus Sunnah wal Jama'ah Association, now regarded as the most radical Islamic group in Australia. [But by whom? Sally? ASIO? john hoWARd? The CIA? The American Military Industrial Complex? PNAC? The evil USA?
[According to Sally] His [alleged] visitor was the Indonesian preacher, [and teacher] Abu Bakar Bashir, [allegedly] future head of the terrorist group, Jemaah Islamiah (JI) [A man who was obviously, in the eyes of the world, set-up to take a fall for a conspiracy over the bombings, and JI a demon name that President Susilo Bangbang Yudhoyono had never heard of before he became President of Indonesia.]
[But who says this? Sally? ASIO? john hoWARd? USA? CIA? Who?]
[Allegedly according to Sally] Bashir, on his first trip to Australia, needed the blessing of the country's pre-eminent conservative cleric in order to begin building his "jemaah" or community, which would later become the Australian branch of JI. [Allegedly] Omran was willing to oblige?
[Who said that? No mention of any history, people who can confirm this? Why wasn't he visiting friends on an open invitation? As we do? So now we have a fiction demon 'JI' and now the people who are going to build this demon?]
[The plot thickens?]
[Allegedly according to Sally] Their warm handshake in the Preston mosque signified the start of an enduring alliance between their two groups, strengthened over almost two decades by a web of personal and organisational links.
[Like the abc has links? Links to CNN. Links to AFP. links to Reuters. Links to John hoWARd. Links to the Neo Liberals. Links to Labor. Links to ASIO. And links to the USA. So it's not at all unusual to have a few links, cells and friends, hey sally?]
CIA agent returns to Indonesia last July?
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9576 CIA agent spreads terror fears in Australia
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9576 hoWARd, will keep chilling you!
More:
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9465 Aussie ministers plot to kill dissent
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9530 [But allegedly according to Sally] This alliance is central to the sprawling network of Islamic militants now under investigation in Australia?
[But the links to the illegal and degrading war on terror in Iraq and Afghanistan that killed at least half a million to a million people don't have any links to the sprawling network of western militants and neocons in the USA? The USA and the Coalition of the Killing which includes the American Military Industrial complex, and the CIA all-responsible for the worlds latest Holocaust. Why no investigation there Sally?]
[Allegedly? According to Sally, not your best neighbour at all] On the face of it, the two groups held distinctly different aims. Omran's Ahlus Sunnah group, largely Middle Eastern in origin, existed to promote an austerely literal interpretation of the Koran. Bashir's group comprised mostly Indonesians dedicated to securing an Islamic state in their homeland.
[But even if it were true and once again there is no mention of the supported knowledge to back up these claims, and is that not like any other party, Labor or Liberal, Lib/lab? Or Catholic and Protestant? Family Last even? Or what about Christian Democratic Party's Fred Nile even?]
[What are they trying to do in Australia? What are their main aims? Interpreting the Bible? What about Family Last? Money is your best option? How about vote Liberal? Because it's western it's okay then? At least not sinister hey?]
[And it shouldn't surprise anyone that someone in Indonesia had different politics and values than the STATE SANCTIONED TERROR in Indonesia, if you ask me? What about the corrupt rogue state? I think they have just been criticised by the rest of the world on the 15 anniversary of the East Timor Massacre.] The whole legal system is corrupt in Indonesia as well, from the top down, but not for a song! Just ask Michelle Leslie]
Amy Goodman Recounts the East Timor Massacre 15 Years Ago
http://perth.indymedia.org/index.php?action=newswire&parentview=36613 [Allegedly according to our good neighbour sally.] But the two men and their followers shared a common world view. They were adherents of the Salafi school of Islam, which holds that the faith must be practised just as it was in the days of the Prophet Mohammed in the seventh century, hence their long robes and untrimmed beards.
[Now it's the way they dress is it Sally? Sure we haven't seen people with long robes and untrimmed beards before in any other religion? Or in Australia?]
[Allegedly according to Sally] They also believed that the Koran allows Muslims to fight if their religion is under threat. Omran and Bashir shared too an admiration for the emerging icon of the jihad movement, Osama bin Laden.
[Self Defence is everyone's religion Sally? I think I'll start calling you Silly Sally? So where is the link with the 'Self Defence movement? What about wars of aggression? In anycase, even though Indonesia has nothing to do with the war on Iraq and Afghanistan, an opportunity by the CIA, Indonesia and Australia being complicit to harden the hearts of the Australian and the US public against Islamic fundamentalists to start their illegal and degrading war of aggression?]
[So you have to have a story behind it to make up for the distance between false flag opps in Indonesia all the way across to Iraq and Afghanistan that's a huge leap to cover without a terror tale to hook into? What about the Icon of the Terror movement G W Bush? At least we know he's guilty! Osama bin Laden hasn't been found guilty of anything, yo!] And Indonesia has been blowing up bombs in their own country just to move people out of villages for years!]
[Allegedly according to Sally?] Omran was well-connected in international Salafist circles. A Jordanian-born migrant to Australia, his friends included the British-based Al Qaeda luminary Abu Qatada, whom Omran hosted in Australia in 1994. Interviews with bin Laden and Abu Qatada were among the items featured in the online magazine Nida'Ul Islam (Call to Islam), published by Omran's acolytes in the Islamic Youth Movement and read widely in Australia, Europe and the Middle East.
[But in this world people are well connected in international circles, like the G-20, so what difference does that make to this story? People talk and socialism is the human game otherwise life would be dull, dull, and boring Sally? Some interviews you say may have taken place by a publisher who has a means of making a living, just like you as a journo? So you say they interviewed bin, where has he bin anyway? And Abu Quatada, so what Sally?]
[Allegedly according to Sally] Bashir also needed a forum to spread his teachings in Australia. And Nida'Ul Islam was happy to provide one, publishing a series of speeches and essays by Bashir and his JI co-founder, Abdullah Sungkar.
[So what Sally? Even if that was true, that doesn't make a preacher and teacher anymore sinister than you? In fact with the Holocaust in Iraq it may even make you and your lot the worst of the worst offenders, with the abc being complicit in publishing lies for the war of aggression?]
Abdul Rahim and Abdul Rahman Ayub
[Allegedly according to Sally?] The Indonesian twin brothers appointed by the JI chiefs to run their new branch in Australia were welcomed into the Ahlus Sunnah group's fold. Abdul Rahim and Abdul Rahman Ayub regularly attended its prayer room at Haldon Street, Lakemba, in Sydney's south-west, and encouraged their followers to do likewise.
[I noticed you did not show any interviews for this story? What you say is therefore hearsay? Regardless if two Indonesian twin brothers decided to run or open a branch of Islam just like a branch of Catholics or a Branch of Hillsongs or a Branch of Commonwealth Banks where should they attend? Perhaps they should open a branch in Sydney and attend to it somewhere else? So they opened a branch you say and they went to the place they opened? So what?]
[Allegedly according to Sally] Abdul Rahim was at the time married to the Australian woman Rabiyah Hutchison, with whom he had a daughter and two sons, Mohammed and Abdullah, who are both currently under arrest in Yemen, accused of plotting with Al Qaeda figures to import arms into Somalia.
[Once again let me clear that up, sally?]
[But speaking through a lawyer, Hutchinson denied she or her sons were terrorists or had trained at terrorist camps. The media, however, denounced her as the former wife of Abdul Rahim Ayub, an Indonesian whom ASIO has accused of establishing an Australian branch of the Indonesian terrorist group, Jemaah Islamiah, in Australia during the late 1990s. Hutchison cannot travel overseas because the Howard government confiscated her passport last year on “security” grounds, acting on ASIO advice.
According to the media, Hutchison also “has links” to the 19 Islamic men arrested in Sydney and Melbourne a year ago on terrorist charges, because her daughter from her first marriage, Rahmah, is married to Khaled Cheikho, one of those arrested. Apart from fuelling the xenophobic witchhunt against Muslims, the “Yemen plot” could be an attempt to breathe new life into the campaign generated around those arrests.]
http://perth.indymedia.org/index.php?action=newswire&parentview=36383 [I'd go along with 'breathing new life into a Howard Government campaign generated by Sally? So Sally, Allegedly? You say] A powerful and headstrong personality, Hutchison became the matriarch of the radical Islamist community in Australia. She would later travel to Afghanistan, where she married a member of Al Qaeda's leadership shura, Mustafa Hamid, also known as Abu al Walid al-Masri.
[Seems Sally has inside information if it were true? What if she wasn't an Australian and there are other places in the world? A person travels? So what! Why not get her to say it?]
[Allegedly according to Sally] The ties between the two groups were cemented in 1999 with the marriage of Hutchison's eldest daughter Rahmah (the child of an earlier marriage in Indonesia), to Sydney man Khalid Cheikho, another regular at the Haldon Street prayer room. Cheikho is currently awaiting trial on charges of preparing for a terrorist act, after his arrest in Sydney last year under ASIO's Operation Pendennis?
[As above get her to say it?]
[My oh my how this plot thickens? Sally you good neighbour, you? Do you ramp it up like this for all your friends?]
[Allegedly according to Sally] The JI connection to Ahlus Sunnah was further evidenced when Omran traveled to Indonesia, apparently in 2000. According to an account provided by one of his followers to the Australian Federal Police (AFP), the purpose of Omran's journey was "to visit Abu Bakar Bashir."
[Wow this is a hit? If it were true? You say he actually went over to Indonesia and he was to visit someone, regardless of who that someone was, he visited a preacher and a teacher, according to you and an AFP stooge? Are these people confined? Should be confined? Shackled perhaps? What, Sally? Makes me wonder if you travel? Did you meet up with someone that you weren't suppose to? Did you know they were sinister witches? Or even profiled as possible scapegoats?]
[Allegedly according to Sally] At the time, JI was in a state of transition, from a grass roots lobby group campaigning for an Islamic state in Indonesia to a fully-fledged terrorist organisation. According to the account given to the AFP, Omran returned from his visit "highly unimpressed saying they (JI) are a very disorganised group."
[Well I could have said the same about the story tellers USA, PNAC, American Military Industrial Complex, CIA, FBI, the john Howard government and in fact the entire Australian political and media establishment according to the links that I have set out in this article.]
[That the plot was that of neo-cons who are the real criminal terrorists who made up a demon called JI in Indonesia with the help of a few CIA experts who were well planted there, stooge informants, like Sidney Jones and Rohan Gunaratna a state of transition, from a grass roots CIA false flag opp, so called specialists and story tellers into a fully fledged terrorist oranisation that went on to kill tens of thousands of people in Iraq for oil!]
Now you say, "Omran has since denied that he traveled to Indonesia expressly to visit Bashir, claiming he went there on a lecture tour to give sermons in mosques and universities, and that he met up with Bashir in Jakarta in his spare time."
[Makes sense to me!]
[Allegedly according to Sally] Omran's Sydney lieutenant, Abdul Salam Zoud, who was named by French investigators in 2004 as an Australian recruiter for the jihad, was also well acquainted with Abu Bakar Bashir.
[Once again if it were true did Abu Bakar Bashir know what Abdul was named for and also if it were true. The French should be believed? On what basis?]
[Allegedly according to Sally] Zoud and Bashir met up in Malaysia in early 2000, when Zoud was leading a party of Australian pilgrims home from the annual hajj to Mecca. The party, which included Melbourne man Jack Thomas, stopped over in Kuala Lumpur, where they were greeted at a city hotel by Bashir?
Australia: The torture of Jack Thomas
Given the High Commissioner’s role and the reference to “high places,” there is every indication that the Australian government sanctioned these abuses. What is indisputable is that, acting on its behalf, the Commonwealth Director of Public Prosecutions sought to secure convictions that depended entirely upon the completely unreliable statements that Thomas made in his desperation to stop the beatings, avoid being sent to Guantánamo Bay and be allowed to go home.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/20988 Jack Roche
[Allegedly according to Sally] Bashir was accompanied at the time by Australian JI member, Jack Roche, who later described the encounter to the AFP. Roche had been seconded by JI's operations chief Hambali and was on his way to Afghanistan to meet the Al Qaeda leadership to plan an attack in Australia.
[CIA made demon 'JI' Member let's remember who made up JI and then who linked Jack Roche to it!] Attention seeker Jack Roach who would have no credit in any court of law unless they gave it to him! Read the link!]
Convicted attention seeker Jack Roche called by afp as informant
A convicted 'attention seeker' Jack Roche now an afp informant has given hearsay evidence at the committal hearing for 13 men facing [alleged] terrorism charges in Melbourne.
http://sydney.indymedia.org/node/38379 Roche was subsequently convicted and sentenced to nine years in jail for plotting to blow up the Israeli Embassy in Canberra.
[But not unlike some attention seekers who would like to become a martyr for a cause? Again that doesn't mean they had any means as in Roche's case or any know how to carry out a plan or a bombing as in Roche's case but just that they had a story to tell like many story tellers.]
[Allegedly according to Sally] As the most senior figure in the Australian jihadist network, Omran was briefed by JI's local leaders on Roche's plot.
[Allegedly according to Sally] The Ayub brothers were opposed to Hambali and Roche conducting an Al Qaeda operation [Oh! Was it and Al Quaeda operation?] On their turf in Australia without consulting them. So they went to Omran to seek his advice.
[Perhaps we should set up a meeting with all these players on national television and get them to tell us this truth? Because it is one thing to say these players did this or said that but another thing to prove it Sally?]
[Allegedly according to Sally] Omran argued strongly that Roche must be stopped. The Ayub twins relayed his advice back to Bashir in Indonesia by letter and Bashir later instructed Roche to abandon his plans.
[As above]
[Allegedly according to Sally] Omran - with some justification - has since claimed credit for having averted Roche's bombing. He also claimed to have alerted the authorities to the plot. However Australian officials deny that he did so. ASIO and the AFP remained oblivious to Roche's activities until after the Bali bombings in 2002.
[As above]
Evidence in another terrorism case suggests that, despite his reservations about the JI organisation, Omran acted as a conduit to Bashir for his followers in Australia.
[As above]
Jack Thomas
[Allegedly according to Sally] The material supporting this emerged in the trial of Melbourne man Jack Thomas, who was found guilty of receiving funds from Al Qaeda, but had his conviction overturned on appeal after it was found that his interview with the AFP in Pakistan was obtained under duress. Like many of Omran's followers, Thomas refers to the cleric as Abu Ayman, meaning "father of Ayman."
[But later on Appeal found not guilty according to torture with duress being the reason not the outcome, Sally? That word might be a little difficult for Sally because she's not had here balls squeezed for info]
Australia: The torture of Jack Thomas
Given the High Commissioner’s role and the reference to “high places,” there is every indication that the Australian government sanctioned these abuses. What is indisputable is that, acting on its behalf, the Commonwealth Director of Public Prosecutions sought to secure convictions that depended entirely upon the completely unreliable statements that Thomas made in his desperation to stop the beatings, avoid being sent to Guantánamo Bay and be allowed to go home.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/20988 http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/08/120670.php [Allegedly according to Sally] Thomas told the AFP that before he left for Afghanistan he sought "Abu Bakar Bashir's advice through Abu Ayman" about whether he should go or not. The reply that came back from Bashir via Omran was: "If I want to go, ok, and if I want to stay, ok. I shouldn't feel forced to go to Afghanistan."
[Allegedly according to Sally] Omran himself counselled Thomas against making the journey. He saw Thomas as a "hot head" who would likely get himself into trouble. But Thomas ignored his advice.
[Even if it were true what was he going there for? Lots of people have hot heads? And why can't we get these people together to tell their own stories?]
[Allegedly according to Sally] Before leaving Australia in March 2001, Thomas was briefed by another Sydney follower of the Ahlus Sunnah group, who had recently returned from Afghanistan and had been questioned en route by Australian police.
[As above]
[Allegedly according to Sally] Thomas was warned to take care for his personal safety and to "concentrate on the security of the sheikh." He assumed this was a reference to Omran. Thomas told the AFP that because of Omran's own contacts with people linked to Al Qaeda in Afghanistan, Omran's "security was in jeopardy."
The plot thickens
[Allegedly according to Sally] Thomas was one of three Australians who traveled to Afghanistan in early 2001 for training in Al Qaeda's Camp Faruq. All three were regular attendees at Omran's Michael St mosque in Brunswick and their travel was arranged by a fellow Ahlus Sunnah follower at the mosque.
[As above]
[Allegedly according to Sally] By the time Thomas arrived in Afghanistan, Rabiyah Hutchison had made her home in the Afghan capital, settling with her sons Mohammed and Abdullah in one of three houses in a small residential compound in Kabul.
[As above]
[Allegedly according to Sally] One of her neighbours in the compound was a Taliban commander and Al Qaeda intermediary known as Abu Qatada (though not the same Abu Qatada referred to above.) He was a Kenyan who was wanted over the Al Qaeda bombings of two US embassies in Africa in 1998.
[Links links and more links?]
[Allegedly according to Sally] Hutchison introduced Thomas to this Abu Qatada, who grilled the Melburnian before sending him to the tatziri (beginners) course in Camp Faruq.
[But why can't Hutchison speak for herself? Sally?]
[Allegedly according to Sally] In Camp Faruq, Thomas was joined there by the two other Australians whom he knew from the Ahlus Sunnah mosque in Melbourne. One of them was a 20-year-old former Canberran convert to Islam named Ahmad Kalek. The other was another convert, a Melburnian, who cannot be named for legal reasons.
[And for legal reason that does not mean, even if it were true that they were terrorists or even organising terror]
Thomas, Kalek and the other man completed the beginners course in Camp Faruq, although Kalek found the training so gruelling that he wanted to leave.
[The beginners course, please explain?] School of believers? Boy Scouts Islam style? Club Led?
[Allegedly according to Sally] Kalek later told the AFP of how they met Al Qaeda chief bin Laden while they were there. He recalled: "Our group had a short conversation with Osama bin Laden during which he asked who we were and where we were from. He also asked how the Muslims in Australia were going."
[And we've all heard that one before Sally but it doesn't mean that it is true. Like I said let's get all the players together and get them to tell the story including your mate where has he bin Laden and then when they tell us and not you then the story will have made it also possible to believe the bullshit that is coming out of your journalist mouth. This is wild story telling not the truth the whole truth so help me God!]
[Allegedly according to Sally] Ahmed Kalek, who is also known as Abu Jihad, was later detained in Egypt and held in a Cairo prison for several months before being sent home to Australia. He has not been charged but remains a person of interest to the Australian authorities.
[So what does that mean Sally? It means more bullshit so why say it? I know, john HoWARd's war on terror and you're in the terror club led to promote propaganda and fear for a price?]
[Allegedly according to Sally] Kent was one of 22 men arrested in Melbourne and Sydney last year during Operation Pendennis, and was recently committed to stand trial on charges including being a member of a terrorist organisation and providing support to Al Qaeda.
[The very reason for this article, hey Sally?]
Silly Sally! Don't Dilly Dally! john HoWARd's abc.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/indepth/featureitems/s1791796.htm Related:
Lawyers denied access to secret truth in scapegoat case
In preparing his defence case, two of his lawyers, solicitor Adam Houda and barrister Peter Lange, saw information that the Commonwealth says they should not have had access to.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/37489 Anti-terrorism laws target non-suspects: expert
The forum will look at Australia's legal response to terrorism but would be minded to think of it as scapegoating for john hoWARd's illegal and degrading war of aggression on Iraq that's errorism on purpose. In short, the 'fear' of the politics of a war criminal!
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/57379 Australia: Anti-Muslim “terror plot” unravels
Without waiting for any evidence, Prime Minister John Howard and his ministers immediately claimed that the arrests provided disturbing new proof that “home-grown” terrorists were preparing attacks in Australia. Howard told parliament: “If they have broken the law or been involved in terrorism, well they deserve everything they get.”
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/57319 BRING DAVID HOME NOW!
National Day of Action calling for the repatriation of David Hicks - 5 years of imprisonment & torture at the hands of the US army is more than enough: SATURDAY 9 DECEMBER 2006 - 12NOON - SYDNEY TOWN HALL Wear orange - bring drums
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/55226 The Sydney Morning who?
Mum asks Downer to help sons in prison and the Sydney [Boring] Herald thought they would help out?
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/48600 Sydney Daily Telegraph (Murdoch owned) skirt the anti terror censorship laws with deliberately false yet cunning stories?
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/47186 Australian media seizes upon Muslim cleric’s comments to whip up xenophobia
There is now an inescapable necessity for all those opposed to militarism and war, and committed to the defence of democratic rights, to develop an independent political opposition to the xenophobic campaign being directed against Muslims. No faction of the media or political establishment has any opposition to the drive to militarise society under the banner of “Australian values”, and all are complicit in the cultivation of anti-Muslim communalism.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/45493 Homegrown war criminal's 'a serious problem in Australia'
Jump, scream, run and hide the muswims are coming to get you! Everywhere I turn there is another terrorist. I opened the sugar bowl this morning and there was a terrorist cockroach just waiting to get me, after stealing my sugar mind you. So we must be very alert and very alarmed. How else would a war criminal get re-elected after a holocaust and what looks like a third interest rate rise this year? Mostly, Howard's goals can only be attained, amongst other things, if he pushes race hate buttons and whilst you continue to live in fear.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/44930 Another Gov't Scapegoat Denied Freedom
However the governments criminal acts and clergy all lie and cannot be believed to the gross dissatisfaction of the general community which have no confidence in the violation of human rights and dignity based on hearsay and rhetoric about thought crimes.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/39895 Scott Parkin and Iraqi Asylum Seeker win court victory
In a huge victory - Scott Parkin and two Iraqi asylum seekers have won the right to view their negative ASIO security assessments in the Federal Court. The decision will expose the governments bogus attempts to link peace activism and asylum seekers with terrorism.
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/11/129332_comment.php Lawyers denied access to secret truth in scapegoat case
In preparing his defence case, two of his lawyers, solicitor Adam Houda and barrister Peter Lange, saw information that the Commonwealth says they should not have had access to.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/37489 THOUGHT CRIME IS NOT A CRIME! DROP THE CHARGES!
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/15547 Doubtful justice in Lodhi sentencing
In Lodhi’s case, this has meant that the threshold of what constitutes “beyond reasonable doubt” has been lowered to an alarming degree. Justice and civil rights are the victims of this “war on terror” in which the government and security agencies benefit politically from convicting supposed terrorists. It is likely that Lodhi’s conviction and sentencing demonstrates, as in the Thomas case, that terror laws are being used to jail people who are not terrorists.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/21361 Professor George Williams says
University of New South Wales law expert Professor George Williams says the matter could be tested in the High Court.
He says the case will reduce people's confidence in the justice system.
"The fact that a jury is not involved, the fact that the criteria are loaded against the person because the standard of proof is significantly lower than it would normally be, mean that even though a judge, I have no doubt, will attempt to give a fair hearing and do his or her best - doesn't matter," he said.
"You've got the system stacked against someone.
"This is not a normal process and indeed that's exactly the problem with it."
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/08/120828_comment.php Draconian scapegoat orders 'stacked against' Thomas
A constitutional law expert says the system is stacked against Melbourne man Jack Thomas.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/21072 'Control order' should frighten all Australians
Greens Senator Kerry Nettle today condemned the issuing of a 'control order' to Jack Thomas by the Attorney General Phillip Ruddock and renewed The Greens call for this arbitrary power to be removed from law.
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/08/120775_comment.php#120787 Australia: The torture of Jack Thomas
Given the High Commissioner’s role and the reference to “high places,” there is every indication that the Australian government sanctioned these abuses. What is indisputable is that, acting on its behalf, the Commonwealth Director of Public Prosecutions sought to secure convictions that depended entirely upon the completely unreliable statements that Thomas made in his desperation to stop the beatings, avoid being sent to Guantánamo Bay and be allowed to go home.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/20988 Jack Thomas served with control order
‘Anyway who cares about civil liberties should be outraged at this decision. We hear about authoritarian governments putting people under house arrest in Burma – well, now it’s happening right here in Australia!’
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/08/120670.php QLD errorism suspect prepares bail application?
Appearing via video link today for a mention, Amundsen regularly spoke over the magistrate, saying he wanted to make another bail application because he now has technical information to prove that the devices in his home were not bombs.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/20627 Lodhi gets 20 years for thought crime?
But what effect of what bombing attack? Thought crime attacks cause no vicitims or I might add no real threat to anyone! More fear has been created by the authorities baseless charges of crimes that were never committed and by the parrot press screaming out terrorist.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/20387 Amendments to proposed anti-terrorism/liberty directives have been dismissed in the Western Australian Parliament.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display/20365/index.php Convicted attention seeker Jack Roche called by afp as informant
A convicted 'attention seeker' Jack Roche now an afp informant has given hearsay evidence at the committal hearing for 13 men facing [alleged] terrorism charges in Melbourne.
http://sydney.indymedia.org/node/38379 American Concentration Camp located at Guantanamo Bay
The American Concentration Camp located at Guantanamo Bay must be closed. Let the people go free. Pardon them. Show them Christian charity. Stop this evil.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/20129 Lodhi lawyer welcomes Thomas appeal win
Perhaps the abc should get another Walkley award?????????????????????
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/19969 If they were any tougher they'd Rust!
Tougher terrorism laws predicted after Thomas ruling?
A top defence lawyer says he is concerned the Government might push for tougher anti-terrorism laws as a result of the quashing of convictions against Melbourne man Joseph Terrence Thomas.
abc 18 Aug 06
Judge quashes Thomas conviction
This is fantastic news. Congratulations to Jack and the Thomas family! It is a vindication of everyone prepared to fight for basic rights -- and makes the bus trip all the more important. We're in the process of putting a press release out. Good news for a change!
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display/19874/index.php Prosecution playing 'dirty tricks' in terrorism trial
The defence lawyers for Melbourne's 13 terrorism suspects have accused the prosecution of playing dirty tricks.
The prosecution today played a taped conversation between defendants Shoue Hammoud and Bassam Raad in which the prosecution alleges Raad suggests the authorities that put other members of their group in jail need to be slaughtered.
But in a heated volley of legal argument, defence lawyers said the reference to slaughter instead refereed to Raad's fears about what could happen to his friends in jail.
The defence lawyers said the prosecution was trying to drum up outrageous headlines to excite the media and to compound the fear being peddled in the Australian community.
The defence lawyers said the prosecution should just get on with the evidence.
ABC 18 Aug 06
Court hears fishing expedition letter 'referred to sacrifices to a cause'
The letter reads: "My love, How I miss you already? What would I ever do if we were separated for more than a day? Inshallah I will never find out. May the only cause for our separation be the cause of Allah. And may he grant me paradise alongside you as queen of your Hoor." [kiss, kiss, kiss, hug]
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/08/119746.php Faheem Lodhi - another non-terrorist jailed under Australia's 'anti-terror' laws?
Jack Thomas, a non-terrorist, has been jailed under Australia's anti-terror laws. Now Faheem Lodhi has been convicted under the terror laws on flimsy, circumstantial evidence. It is likely he is another non-terrorist jailed for political purposes under the terror laws.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/19641 Terrorism scapegoat was kidnapped, court hears
The Melbourne Magistrates Court has heard a man charged with [allegedly] directing a terrorist organisation was kidnapped last year.
The court was told Abdul Benbrika alleged in a conversation recorded by police that he was questioned and hit during an abduction which lasted about six hours.
The defendant did not indicate who was responsible for the alleged kidnapping.
Magistrate Paul Smith heard police initiated an internal investigation into the alleged kidnapping, but it was dropped after numerous efforts to contact Benbrika.
HoWARd's abc 15 August 2006
Magistrate allows AK-47 photo to prejudice scapegoat trial
No doubt that the magistrate seeks to incorporate the media throughout the proceedings of these innocent men because of a lack of concrete evidence and just so they can be used as scapegoat's for hoWARd's war on terror.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/19476 Former medical student to stand trial in kangaroo court!
Lawyers for the 23-year-old argue the charge is not constitutionally valid because they say the laws cannot cover alleged acts committed on foreign soil which do not have an Australian connection.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/19027 Student loses bid for High Court hearing
Lawyers for the 23-year-old argue the charge is not constitutionally valid because they say the laws cannot cover alleged acts committed on foreign soil which do not have an Australian connection.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/18535 Attorney General Ruddock is Oddball over anti-terrorist laws!Attorney
Attorney General Ruddock attacks different laws.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/17746 Australia's Guantanamo
Have the 13 Muslim men arrested under Australia's new anti-terror laws been subjected to Guantanamo Bay-style conditions? It's an allegation being made by Civil Rights Defence
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/18341 Major Michael Mori writes re David Hicks
The US Supreme Court has ruled the special Guantanamo trials illegal. An acceptable solution from the Americans is likely years away and our Government has run out of excuses not to act. Nearly 40,000 Australians have put their name to the Open Letter calling for David Hicks to be repatriated. I hope you'll join us now by clicking on the link:
http://www.getup.org.au/campaign/DefendAustralianRights International Protest Day calls for the end of Guantánamo Bay
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/17099 Judges weigh 'Joseph Thomas's' appeal! Get your facts right!
What would she have imposed for stealing a passport?
http://newswire.indymedia.org/en/2006/07/843328.shtml Joseph Thomas conviction immoral
AN EMBARRASSING conviction based on TORTURE IMMORAL
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/07/117441.php Standardising terrorism in the prison population?
Try giving us hope, access to our communities, a sense of caring by the outside community. And letting us out to make restitution instead of building festering anger.
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/07/117580.php Scapegoats accused 'exploited' by guberment prostitutor
The rest of the prisoners had to stay in jail in AA maximum security segregted with no contact with human people in a box within a box with no fresh air or sunlight with the worst of the worst offenders.
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/07/117553.php Jury indicated it could not reach a verdict, but was ordered to push on?
These charges were that he collected maps of the Australian electricity supply system in preparation of a terrorist act (15 years), BUT WITH NO DETAILS ABOUT THE PREPARATION ACCEPT MATERIAL TO SUPPORT THOUGHT CRIME? that he sought information on chemical prices for the use of explosives for a terrorist act (life), BUT NO SOUND EVIDENCE ABOUT WHETHER THE CHEMICALS WERE GOING TO BE PURCHASED OR USED FOR THE USE OF EXPLOSIVES OR A TERRORIST ACT and that he possessed a document with information on the manufacture of poisons and bombs in preparation for a terrorist act (15 years). THAT HE LIKE MANY OTHERS MAY HAVE DOWNLOADED FROM THE INTERNET WHICH IS NOT ILLEGAL USUALLY?
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/06/115129.php A dangerous precedent: Australian man convicted of “preparing terrorism”
Since 2001, the government has seized upon the “war” declared by US President George Bush for both domestic and international purposes. Under the guise of combating terrorism it has participated in the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, diverted attention from mounting economic and social problems at home and legitimised previously unthinkable police state-style measures, including semi-secret trials, “preventative” detention and the ability to impose life sentences without any evidence of an actual terrorist act.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/16401 Secret evidence used in Australian “terrorist” trial
Lodhi was bundled into the court building in shackles, in full view of the media. The display was intended to convey the impression that he is a violent and highly dangerous individual. Like several other Muslim men charged with terrorist offences in Australia over the past year, Lodhi has been denied bail and held in virtual solitary confinement in a “super max” prison, cut off from family and friends. Under state and federal “counter-terrorism” laws, the traditional presumption in favour of bail has been scrapped. It will only be granted in “exceptional circumstances”. On receiving a confidential affidavit from the Commonwealth, Magistrate Michael Price imposed a number of secrecy orders despite vigorous objections by lawyers for Lodhi and by media organisations. The orders mean that the affidavit itself will remain suppressed, and the media is barred from disclosing even the general nature of the material relied upon in it.
http://www.indymedia.org/en/2004/12/866066.shtml Merry Christmas Mr Kent and Mr Haddara
After and ASIO fishing expedition they were charged last month with knowingly belonging to a Melbourne-based terrorist group, that did not exist.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9799 ASIO raid family home
This is an assault on civil liberties, for all Australians - on the eve of Human Rights Day 2005 that marks the day in 1948, that the United Nations adopted the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Shame hoWARd shame on you!
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9706 Tight security impedes scapegoat case
Indymedia has learnt this includes a bank account his supporters say was set up to fund legal representation for Muslims facing any kind of legal action. The prosecution is understood to allege the money was intended for terrorist purposes.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9693 Some evidence is prejudicial to national insecurity
It has been previously reported that he is facing nine charges and is accused of planning a major terrorist attack on Sydney defence sites and the electricity grid using downloads off the internet and having 100 rolls of toilet paper to wipe his arse after low level bombs and farts. Shit!
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9682 Terrorism suspects' custody conditions 'inhumane'
"This treatment is very cruel and inhumane and what I've put forward to the Premier Morris Iemma to intervene and put an end to this scandal," he said.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9657 DPP should lose the plot!
Now why would the DPP do that? Based on some notion I suppose, that john hoWARd (the hangman) wants to use Thomas's butt again, to raise the fear stakes in the introduction of the new Anti-Liberty-Dissent Directives!
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9617 Things and places identified
He said Mulahalilovic worked as a handyman, lived with his wife, parents and brother and, with the help of family members, could provide around $1 million security to ensure his freedom until trial.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9423 Dangerous handyman terror threat?
But the only mother of SATAN here is John HoWARd and his new Ant-Terrorism Bill!
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9418 Terror suspects 'kept in dark'
"They're all kept in solitary confinement, they're kept in Guantanamo Bay style conditions and they're very oppressive," he said.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9413 What are the dangerous chemicals police found when they went fishing?
If police say they were making bombs when they were painting motor vehicles then the only terrorist act that wasn't prevented was when police went on a fishing expedition.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9395 Man shot by police in fishing raids
But there is no such thing as an independent investigation team in NSW because police investigate themselves and cannot be relied upon ever.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9392 ASIO fishing expedition makes arrests
Are you satisfied truthseeker? Well I'm not this is just another public relations exercise that no one can prove. But trust us we know best?
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/9384 hoWARd, ruddock, ellison, keelty and news ltd plotted chaos
Now they go on in the article to describe themselves as intelligence officials? But I'm sorry to say that any group of people who ask another group of people to believe what they believe based on no evidence is amongst the most unintelligent and lost group of people the world has ever known.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/8663 Houses raided over 'possible' political attack plans?
"Furthermore, nothing is reasonable about a raid on people's homes because for an alleged possibility. For those sorts of enquiries one should approach a 'soothsayer' and if you get the all clear only then should they approach people via the front door with the appropriate warrant to search one's home. A warrant based on concrete evidence that has been filtered by a juge or magistrate of the court to see whether the material is frivolous or vexatious."
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/8659 If he'd been given his passport he'd be a free man
During his trial Mr Mallah's defence counsel said he was only trying to sustain the media spotlight when he sold details of his plans to an undercover officer posing as a journalist.
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/8192 Melbourne man charged over ASIO links
Apparently this victim will appear before the Melbourne Magistrates Court later today and hopefully he won't be sent to the nearest "AA" Super-max prison for "social isolation" just in case ASIO aren't telling us the truth!
http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display/7545/index.php Australian prisoners' linked to Bin Laden: Ten News
Hatzistergos: "For example, because of a perceived risk that they may engage in, or incite other persons to engage in, terrorist activities."
Terrorist prisoners held in a "box within a box" with no "fresh air or sunlight" at Goulburn HRMU may incite alleged terrorists in Long Bay to blow up Long Bay Prison's Twin Towers?
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/regions/liverpool/2004/11/300344.html Andrew Sullivan and the Tortued Truth
Mr. Habib said he was taken to a room with hooks on the wall and a barrel, set sideways like a roller, on the floor. His arms were stretched out, he said, and each wrist was handcuffed and fastened to a hook on the wall. By his description, the only way not to be left hanging was to stand on the barrel; an electric wire ran through it. Mr. Habib said he believed the interrogators in that room were Pakistani.
Mr. Habib said that when he refused to confess to being part of a 1995 terror plot, one man turned on the current. He lifted his feet to avoid the shock, he recalled, and he was suspended from the wall.
"I lost everything," he said.
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