Does the world need much further proof that the vice-pres, with the defence secretary, have emp loyed ex-black ops mesmerists to ensure the loyalty of the "chief".
At a time when all pundits might agree that, to regain the support of the population, even further than the nastiest, weirdest, most distracting or terror-spectacular of "October surprise" type events, all the chief need do is say he was about to sack them, he has come out with a totally unnecessary promise to keep them in place for his entire term!
Spin front : HARD-ASS TORTURERS OPPOSE STUPID WARS TOO.
WEAK MINDS THINK THAT STUPID WARS GET LESS STUPID IF YOU REFUSE TO USE YOUR BRAIN CELLS TO RE-THINK. EVERYBODY ELSE IS.
EVERY BIT OF THE USAs "INTEL" COMMUNITY, EVEN THE BLOKE IN CHARGE OF THE BRITISH ARMY - EVERY DAY OF OCCUPATION EXACERBATES THE SITUATION.
TRYING TO GET IT TO SOUND AS IF THE DEMS CHOICE FOR PRES LAST TIME IS DISSING SOLDIERS WHEN HE SAYS THAT IF YOU DONT THINK ABOUT THINGS YOU MIGHT END UP WITH A DUMB STRATEGY . .desperate stuff.
Even staged "vox pops" from the "front" dont sound authentic, but its also unoriginal, as spin! Rehash of the 2004FASTBOAT smears - perhaps trying to think into the next half of the term - to undermine the people from the dems that have a good record of cooperating in friendship with reps- even of opening up "INTEL" ( or ex-intel ) crimes - after all, it was to him that the first leaks about the "middle east guns for the contras" mess got to.
The attempt to split people that support hard-ass torture, water-board-plus (IF IT SAVES PEOPLE FROM TERROR), from the straightforward "hard-thinking" that the strategy in iraq is a mess is also aimed at reps that might work with dems to clean up congress - for the sake of integrity.
hmmmm.
PS "EXIT STRATEGY" as a phrase twists ALL other strategies than "staying the course" into "running away" . . . . also tries to shut the door against ALL engaged internationalism after what some of us think is looking suspiciously as if it was a DELIBERATE failed strategy in iraq . . . . That bad.
SEE ALSO "DEMOCRACY STITCHED" PIECE, LAST WEEK, THIS NEWSWIRE,
At a time when all pundits might agree that, to regain the support of the population, even further than the nastiest, weirdest, most distracting or terror-spectacular of "October surprise" type events, all the chief need do is say he was about to sack them, he has come out with a totally unnecessary promise to keep them in place for his entire term!
Spin front : HARD-ASS TORTURERS OPPOSE STUPID WARS TOO.
WEAK MINDS THINK THAT STUPID WARS GET LESS STUPID IF YOU REFUSE TO USE YOUR BRAIN CELLS TO RE-THINK. EVERYBODY ELSE IS.
EVERY BIT OF THE USAs "INTEL" COMMUNITY, EVEN THE BLOKE IN CHARGE OF THE BRITISH ARMY - EVERY DAY OF OCCUPATION EXACERBATES THE SITUATION.
TRYING TO GET IT TO SOUND AS IF THE DEMS CHOICE FOR PRES LAST TIME IS DISSING SOLDIERS WHEN HE SAYS THAT IF YOU DONT THINK ABOUT THINGS YOU MIGHT END UP WITH A DUMB STRATEGY . .desperate stuff.
Even staged "vox pops" from the "front" dont sound authentic, but its also unoriginal, as spin! Rehash of the 2004FASTBOAT smears - perhaps trying to think into the next half of the term - to undermine the people from the dems that have a good record of cooperating in friendship with reps- even of opening up "INTEL" ( or ex-intel ) crimes - after all, it was to him that the first leaks about the "middle east guns for the contras" mess got to.
The attempt to split people that support hard-ass torture, water-board-plus (IF IT SAVES PEOPLE FROM TERROR), from the straightforward "hard-thinking" that the strategy in iraq is a mess is also aimed at reps that might work with dems to clean up congress - for the sake of integrity.
hmmmm.
PS "EXIT STRATEGY" as a phrase twists ALL other strategies than "staying the course" into "running away" . . . . also tries to shut the door against ALL engaged internationalism after what some of us think is looking suspiciously as if it was a DELIBERATE failed strategy in iraq . . . . That bad.
SEE ALSO "DEMOCRACY STITCHED" PIECE, LAST WEEK, THIS NEWSWIRE,
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put "stitching up democracy" into the scroogle box - you mean
02.11.2006 18:12
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. . . . USA election coverage less wide than "defuse" presupposes, so - here is
02.11.2006 19:29
The recent ploys had the vice-pres "dropping a clanger" - or - purposefully trying to sound "hard-ass" in his comment, in interview, that using very tough torture measures was a "no-brainer" - hence provoking a backlash that is often characterised as over-liberal, or "softy", even if much of the opposition to the techniques he was talking about is other than that. Some explain that it has perhaps "created" terrorists, as it is over-used against innocent people - or even low-level opposition fighters that werent going to have "terror" info, (nevermind the "get-this-fact-in-very-short-time" info), then that that causes others to "harden" attitudes, stirs the revenge/outrage cycle faster, etc, so that even if, in the same way that its a lot easier to comprehend a bunch of kids in uniform going "shoot'em up" when its after somebody thats eaten with them, drunk with them, laughed, cried, worked with them for months gets blown in half - the revenge-thing seems the response that respects a good friend, anything else seems less - but . . . . it doesnt stop the war, doesnt stop the "i.e.d"s - doesnt even get at the people actually "to blame" - ( **** ) - or stop it happening.
Others have shown that some of these "extreme" or even subtle, "ultra-weird" interrogation
techniques have somehow or other produced utterly incorrect information. Perhaps some people are saying almost anything for it to stop, perhaps some people are programmed so that even in dreams they might offer up entire schemes of incorrect information . . . . but the fact is, the people that came back to the uk after gitmo had confessed to things that the uk secret police KNEW were incorrect - having had at least one of them watched at the time he had "confessed" to appearing in a video with ubl. Worryingly, the same techniques were used to get the entire current "911" "proof" (ksm confessions) - as laid out in the "commission on terrorism" report.
The "defuse" above, though, is making the point that even if - when it WAS going to save a lot of others - to prevent a serious act of terror - you DID back a "hard-ass" attitude, then THAT DOESNT MEAN YOU ARE STUPID. THIS WAR STRATEGY IS.
The recent spin has tried to paint people as "soft" if they disagree with current strategies.
Its even tried to say "Al thingy" has tried to intervene in the USA election - to support the dems! But if they were into that sort of thing, then the release of the infamous "election podium" ubl video - in the run up to the 2004 election - seems timed to support the other lot - as - to great effect - it did, if you look at the polls.
The "axis" power of syria, we are told, is about to invade lebanon. Or perhaps thats a pro-war retort to the fact that the British are talking to them.
A strategy for a good future for iraq, that also gets the troops of the USA, UK, etc back in good shape MEANS talking to syria, - its the neighbours, after all.
The Arab League IS a good bit of a different future, with others - but to put some of the "warbux" saved (by pulling at least MOST of the unpopular western troops out) towards a serious, BIG jobs-creating re-birth of the place is what is going to take the guns out of the situation - to support local democracy first in the afghan scenario - even a much larger "force" - if it was seen to support the actual RECREATION of the place, drawing in engineers from sweden, india, etc, with the sort of "good" overwhelming - ( with kindness, so to speak - ie - unemployment zero - at least for a few years - backed by the armsbudgetequivalent from the usa, uk, etc, is CERTAIN to have got cheaper - for everybody - within a couple of years.
The very few people or corporations that mightnt see this as a good thing at first arent in a position to block it, are they. Are they. are
IF WE STAY THAT STUPID.
- also worth a look, other "usa election update" s in the uk indymedia newswires of the last couple of weeks,
perhaps a look at "un" comments too. . . .
also, typing usefully. . . .