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freedom fighers for free Iran | 29.04.2004 20:11 | Globalisation | Indymedia | Repression | World



___Down with Islamism/Islamic Fascism________

 http://www.ghandchi.com/155-IslamicFascism.htm

Sam Ghandchi, Publisher
IRANSCOPE
June 12, 2002



Many of us were threatened for our lives by IRI agents on different occasions and they even threatened us to death, even in the West, when we posted news about their atrocities on the news boards of the Western democracies . Now after they have gone the second step of Sept 11th and following the killing of Daniel Pearl and yesterday's killing of a missionary in the Philippines, Western democracies are becoming serious to wipe out Islamic fascism. Below is the URL where it shows the heinous cold-blooded murder of Daniel Pearl by these Islamist murderers:

 http://www.prohosters.com/pearl/#ogr

Iranians have been hurt the most by these murderers in the last 23 years. Remember Foruhars, remember Bakhtiar and remember the slaughters the Islamists did as far back as Kasravi's murder. Remember Khomeini's death threat to Salman Rushdie. Their situation now is like that of German fascists in the last days of Nazi Fascism, when the Western democracies finally stood up to them to wipe them out. In a way, the Sept 11th attack on the West became the Pearl Harbor of Islamic Fascism. The democratic Germans and Japanese sided with the Western democracies when the West decided to wipe out fascism in WWII. We Iranians should also support the West in its battle against Islamism. Islamism *is* the Fascism of our times.


Please help the authorities in the US, Canada, Europe and elsewhere if you have any information on IRI agents. It has been fortunate that many IRI agents had tried to use the democracy of the West to harass the pro-democracy activists and thus showed up on many Internet discussion forums in the last 10 years, and we should use this opportunity to get these murderers arrested and brought to justice. How do you think the IRI was able to kill Bakhtiar, Aryamanesh, Ghasemloo, Farokhzad, and others inside the Western countries. It was thru their terrorist network in the West. These people should pay for their murders.


It has been long since the death of Bakhtiar. Where are the culprits? It is time that we all help to punish those who had done these murders in the West. This is our duty to those who lost their lives standing up to IRI in the last 23 years. All those who make up conspiracy theories and try to distract us from ending this fascism of Islamists, are helpers of the Islamists, and work hand in hand with the Islamist agents in the West. We are now at the time that we can end this menace or we can let it continue for another decade. It is our choice.


We have suffered more than any other nation in the hands of these murderers and they did not let us have one peaceful night of sleep, even when living in the West. Yes, they slaughtered Ghasemloo and Farokhzad in Germany . They slaughtered Bakhtiar in Paris. They cut up the elderly Foruhars couple in Tehran. They slaughtered about 3000 people in New York on Sept 11th. They slaughtered Daniel Pearl in Pakestan and Martin Burnham in the Philippines.


Yes, it is our choice to work together with the Western democracies to put an end to Islamism and Islamic Fascism or just stay on the sides and be happy with some other conspiracy theories of IRI agents and their victim games of third world underdogs, and let the Islamists to pass this period and stay intact. It is our choice to put an end to this menace or wait and see more murders of the likes of Bakhtiar, Foruhar, and Pearl.


Let's remember all these now that their actions on Sept 11th and their killing of Daniel Pearl have woken up the West and the rest of the world. Please do not fall for the tricks of IRI apologists who have been helping these murderers all these 23 years. We are seeing these collaborators of Islamists who have been making radioactive bombs. It is time that Iranians show that we are *not* on the side of Islamist fascists and together with the rest of the world put an end to Islamic Fascism of our times...



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DOWN WITH ALL FASCISTS!

29.04.2004 21:08


1) Down with all fascists!

2) British fascists pose the biggest threat to people in Britain.

3) Islamic fascists pose the biggest threat to people in Islamic countries.

4) We are therefore all chiefly threatened by our 'own' fascists! It is they who are most likely to fool 'our' people and bring their dictatorhip to power over us.

5) Islamicists are unlikely to take power in Britain. However, the Islamic minority in Europe is most vulnerable to the next holocaust, if we are unable to stop it.

6) The muslim ghettos' of early twenty first century Europe resemble nothing so much as the Jewish ghettos' of early twentieth century Europe.

7)If the majority of people in Britain blame Islamisim as their main enemy, this will only enable the British fascists to increase their power over the people of Britain.

8) We will therefore aim our fire chiefly against 'our own' fascists here in Britain, the BNP, NF, and kindred scum.

9) We will support our comrades in the Islamic world in their struggle against all dictators, fascists and right wing Islamicists.


Alfred the Freak


Reactionary and misleading

29.04.2004 21:50

Not only is this a reactionary, pro-imperialist posting, it is also quite inaccurate. Anyone who knows anything about the Second World War will know that 9 out of 10 German soldiers were killed fighting the Red Army and that the role of the "western democracies" was comparatively insignificant.

The "western democracies" had in the run up to the war encouraged the Nazi fascists to invade the USSR and sacrificed Czechoslovakia to this end. They did not come to the aid of the USSR in 1941, 42 or 43. The "western democracies" ignored the USSR's call to open a second front until it became clear that the Red Army would win anyway. Then they opened a second front not to aid the Red Army, but to ensure it did not liberate the whole of Nazi-occupied Europe.

Ed


more to the point

29.04.2004 23:28

Down with Zionism and US Imperialism

nodboss


Reactionary and misleading

30.04.2004 09:34

And wasn't it Stalin who made a apct with Hitler when war broke out in 1939?
And wasn't it the glorious Red Army taht carved uyp Polannd in collaboration with the Werhmacht?
And wasn't it the progrssive Russian satet that shot 4000 Poles at Katyn?
And if you think the Western Allies were in any position to mount an invasion of Europe in 1942 or 1943, then you are simply deluded.

sceptic


Oh dear

30.04.2004 12:31

How many times does the same thing have to be said over and over again. Just because you do not agree with the modern represenations of the Zionoist idoelogy, it doesn't mean you are anti-Jew. The modern outward expressions of Zionism are, in fact, very different from the 19th century ideology that first originated in Europe in response to the various nationalist idologies of the time. When people say Zionism these days I believe they are referring to the criminal Israeli policies towards Palestinains and the ethno-centricism of the Israeli state [as well as the crimes Nakba such as deir Yassin, something that Israel has to come to terms with if it is to ever understand its place in the region and the events that have followed]. This by no means makes them anti-Jew. I am a strong and active opponent of modern Israeli policies towards the Palestnians, as well as an ooponent of Israel's internal policies defined by etnicity. I am also Jewish so what does that make me a self-hater? Oh yeah and I also in the long term beleive in a one-state solution. Ooh

wouldn't you like to know


Second Front

30.04.2004 17:52

because the Americans had the resources and we didn't.

the Dieppe raid of 1942 was a fiasco.

D Day in 1944 was no walk over, despite the massive forces that were deployed.

Direct frontal assaults on beaches with no resupply are very very dangerous.

Now tell me, if it would have been so easy, why didn't the Germans invade in 1940?

sceptic


Gosh!???!

01.05.2004 10:32

This is all very thought provoking stuff. However, if I were a cynical person, I might be inclined to put forward the view that this is part of a long series of postings on the newswire by fascists, accusing muslims of being fascists in order to stoke up Islamophobia, in the hope of attracting more support to themselves.

Fortunately, I am an optimistic soul who is not prone such flights of cynicism.

Skyver Bill


Photographic evidence

01.05.2004 13:54

Hezb'allah fascism
Hezb'allah fascism

Islamic fascism in the making
Islamic fascism in the making



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Tazaar


Not muslims, but Islamists are Fascists. there is a diff.

01.05.2004 17:12

1400 years of islamic rule and suppression in our homeland had tought us a good lesson about Islam and its dark side. Once recruited and backed by the good old Fascist movement of EU there is no doubt Islamists can turn into a more dengerous forces of fascism than we've ever seen in European history!

I don't mind if the media wants to relate it to Islam, frankly Islam had fucked up my nation for 1400 years and the majority of our new generation want it to go back and stay in saudi caves! But the term is Islamist! As you read in the title.

As to being optimistic that the European and Islamist fascism now closely linked together would just dissappear by wishing it away; I don't think so!

Islamists have become one of the most brutal forces of fascism (it's still unvailing as we speak around the globe) and don't get me wrong Islam in itself or some stupid ayatollah on his own could not possibly hold the world hostage at gunpoint if it weren't for all the recruitments, direction, and backings from EU forces of Fascism.

Fascist thugs like Khomeini are but a puppet made in Europe, with remote control and all!

kafir


More words of wisdom from the erudite Sam

01.05.2004 18:27



Iraq and Israel Should Cooperate in Reconstruction

 http://www.ghandchi.com/292-IraqIsrael.htm





I have previously written in what is happening in Iraq why I do not think the situation in Iraq is the so-called "Vietnamization" and why it is more the attempts of Islamists and other despotic and terrorist forces to turn Iraq into another Lebanon, to stop it from becoming a successful democracy.



Regardless of whether anybody supported the overthrow of Saddam by the U.S. or not, anyone interested in democracy in the Middle East today, supports the establishment of the democratic process in Iraq and not terrorism. It is the best news in the Middle East that a government has formed in Iraq, after so many years, that has a forward-looking Kurdish leader like Jalal Talabani of PUK in its council, and not the same obsolete Islamists reshuffled, and the democratic process in Iraq needs to be fully supported by progressive forces.



It is an error to think success of democracy in Iraq means success of colonialism. Different countries may have arrived at a democratic state in different ways. The American colonists had wiped out the native population. But it was wrong to think that one needed to focus on kicking out occupiers after that fact. The focus had to shift to forming democracy and that is what has been the history of the last two hundred years of the United States.



The same story happened as recent as the events in Yugoslavia, where democracy was formed with the participation of U.S. and UN peace keeping forces; and the way Afghanistan developed was another different event which was caused by Islamists of Afghanistan extending their Islamist terrorism to the U.S. Ideally the best way democracy should develop is by internal forces and not by war, the way I hope Iran succeeds in achieving it in Middle East, but one cannot drop support for democratic process, because of historical development of how it has come about, and to continue fighting a futile war like the Palestinians did for many years, before realizing they had to work with Israel, and finally had to settle for less, instead of doing it sooner and focusing on building democratic institutions which could help them the most.



Also I have already noted the positive points of support of GW Bush for democracy in the Middle East. Again one may have all kinds of theories calling U.S. position as the neo-conservative colonialist plan of take over of Middle East, or to consider it just Bush's election rhetoric. Actually already Bush's opponents like George Soros are focusing on attacking him on his position in the Middle East, calling it the position of war and violence. I do not doubt the support of Soros for democracy in the former Soviet Union and Eastern Block, and his condemnation of Communism there, but I hope he condemns Islamism and Islamist atrocities in the Middle East as well, and to help the real secular democratic forces in the Middle East, and not another faction of the Islamists.



GW Bush's position helps the development of democracy in the Middle East; and secular progressive forces should support this position of the U.S., rather than letting the Iranian Shi'a Islamists or Saudi monarchs to change this U.S. initiative to something barren. Unfortunately except for a few like Chris Hitchens, others in the progressive forces in the West, are still trapped in their old views of the world, and are just attacking Bush's position in Middle East as insincere support of democracy, and are helping the Islamists by not saying anything about the atrocities of Islamists in the Middle East, rather than focusing on support of secular democracy in the Middle East, which is the real aspiration of Middle Eastern people at this historic period of life of the Middle East, thanks to the atrocities of Islamists in the last 24 years.



Islamists have been responsible for terrorism and massacres of Middle Eastern and other people (e.g. WTC) in the last 25 years, from Iran to Afghanistan and elsewhere. And even now that some of the Islamists are acting a bit reserved, it is because the situation is like September of 1941 (shahrivare 1320) in the region, that the presence of allied forces had put the dictatorial local forces out of balance, and once the situation changes, the internal reactionary despotic forces will be back to exercising full dictatorship. I explained this in February before the Iraq War that this situation can be used by internal democratic forces in Iran and elsewhere in the Middle East to take power, or else if they use all their energy in the semi-democratic situation, for bickering and wasting time arguing with so-called Islamist reformists, our chances to form democracy in Iran and the rest of Middle East may be postponed for decades. Here is my article of February where I explained the Middle East situation in this regard:



 http://www.ghandchi.com/182-middleeast.htm



And as far as the issue of War, I just hope that the progressive forces to read the following excellent interview that Karl Popper gave before his death. This interview best describes the error of those who just look at all wars of the modern times like the Vietnam. No doubt that the best way for change is internal, like it happened in the Soviet Union, Eastern Block and South Africa, and hopefully will happen in Iran. But not all wars should be judged as reactionary wars. As I noted the cases like the former Yugoslavia provided such examples before Afghanistan, and the sincere people in the left hopefully can study the Yugoslavia's case and the role of intervention carefully, and not judge the support of democratic process in such situations based on the international intervention that made it possible:



 http://ghandchi.com/iranscope/Anthology/Popper.htm



And to ensure that I do not create any misunderstanding, let me repeat that Iranians do not want any foreign intervention in Iran, and the best solution for Iran is the pro-democracy movement to make the democratic transition in the country, as I have written about it in details before in my book The Futurist Iran. And the Iranian political forces are already embarked on writing a new constitution for a democratic republic, and we are taking the initiative to form the alternative for Iran, and to take power, without any intervention by any outside force in Iran.



***



Now let me go back to the topic of this article. Why I think Iraq and Israel should cooperate in reconstruction of Iraq. Let me first repeat that I condemn Israel's treatment of Palestinians, although I support the democracy in Israel. I have written my view of Israel before, and some progressive forces have called me names like Zionist, etc, to stop me to express my views. I have written that the Palestinian-Israeli issue has two sides of the coin, and one cannot just see one side and blame Israel. The Palestinians have failed to form a modern democratic leadership, and as long as their progressive forces try to please the Islamists, they cannot bring democracy and freedom to their nation. Israel has been able to form democracy for its own people, something that no Arab country can claim about its own citizens. True they have not extended it to the Palestinians, and this is a shortcoming just like the early U.S. history and the rights of blacks, but at least for the rest of the population they have formed democracy. In the Arab countries, even the Arabs do not enjoy democracy, let alone the Jews and others.



As far as Iraq, I think Iraq should set the precedence for Arab countries to have open cooperation with Israel for reconstruction. The games of Saudi monarchs always keeping the anti-Israeli and Islamist rhetoric, and at the same time working with the U.S., and even working with Israel in the back stage has proven to be useless. In fact, the secret military cooperation of Arab states, or Islamic Republic of Iran (IRI), with Israel, in different periods, is well known, although they all have kept the facade of anti-Israeli rhetoric, to keep themselves safe from their own people asking for democracy which Israelis enjoy, by enforcing the issue of Israeli-Palestinian conflict, when the real issue in Middle East is democracy and progress in the Arab countries and Iran, which is curtailed by the Islamists and monarchs. Many Middle Eastern people know about advancements of high tech and about democracy in Israel, but Arab and IRI leaders do not want people to know more and acknowledge that, and they use anti-Jewish rhetoric, covered as anti-Zionism, to justify their own obsolete ideologies and states, to keep people from seeing progress and democracy next door by demonizing Israel. As far as treating other parts of their population, they are no better than Israel. They have treated their own minorities like the Kurds, worse than the way Israelis have treated the Palestinians.



I believe Iraq is a chance not only to break the taboo of cooperation with Israel, but also to see how much Israel and other countries of Middle East can cooperate to form progress and advancement in the Middle East. The Shi'a Islamists in Iran are giving the same IRI-type plans to the U.S. for Iraq, and are scaring the U.S. from having anything to do with Israel, and they try hard to show themselves as the choice for Iraq. This is not 1979 and Khomeini's times. The Shi'a Islamists are using the U.S. to get to rule Iraq, not the other way around, in contrast to the situation in Iran of 1979 when the U.S. was trying to support Islamists to keep a foot in Iran, which even proved to be a wrong approach and resulted in the hostage-taking by Islamists in 1980. Today it is not even that kind of situation of popular support of these Islamist forces anywhere in the Middle East, and one should not believe their lies reinforced by IRI lobbyists. Today the situation in the Middle East is the best for secular forces in the last one hundred years, and secular forces are the ones needing an international tribune in the West to speak for them, and not other factions of Islamists that have put Middle East in this situation by mixing religion and state, and they have used the oil money to financially support their vocal and even terrorist supporters intimidating secular Middle Eastern forces even in the West, as eloquently noted by Steven Emerson. It is a mistake to form Iraqi state with an Islamist facade. Any semi-Islamist constitution will only help the terrorists.



Iraq is where the Middle East can learn cooperation with Israel. Israel has advanced technologies and know-how, and can help Iraq in its current needs of reconstruction. And we should not believe Islamists and their supporters scaring us of the escalation of attacks on secular forces, if such a cooperation happens. If the world shows that the West does not see the Islamists as the inheritors of Iraq and the rest of Middle East, they will lose even their remaining supporters, who think they have U.S. backing. They are not ruling by popular support anymore, and have been ruling by gun in Iran for a long time now, and will be on the run if people know the West does not support the Islamists anymore. Actually cooperation with Israel should have been done in Lebanon before the Islamists and Syrian Baathists turn it into the land of terrorism and chaos, as they have done in the last 30 years.



It is time to start a real cooperation of Israel and Iraq and make sure that it is accompanied by the full support of democracy in Iraq and not by any anti-Arab and anti-Palestinian racism, which has been the gravest error of Israeli leaders. The strength of Israel is in its high tech know-how and democratic institutions that can help Iraq in its reconstruction.



Sam Ghandchi, Publisher/Editor
IRANSCOPE
 http://www.iranscope.com
Nov 14, 2003



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This throws a little more light on these pro western, pro monarchist remnant's agenda.




Skyver Bill


Another point of view

07.08.2004 20:44

It seems to me that we are always forgetting something when it comes ti Islamic fascism and it's oppostion to Western ideas and views.

The situation in Iraq is a telling story of a male dominated, backward-striving oligarchy trying to hold on to it's former rights and advantages over the masses of poor, illiterate poeple that make up the larger part of the population of Iraq, as well as many other Islamic countries.

Let us remember a few things here :

1. Israel is a democracy, the only one - besides Iraq _ in the middle east. As such, it deserves the respect and admission that any other democratic country in the west receives. If nothing else for the simple fact that the people of Israel decide their government, which most other countries in the middle east do not. A support of the status quo should never involve by democratic, inclusive western governments, those which stand in stark contrast to basic ideas of human rights which we say we hold so dear. Let us show it by treating midle eastern countries as they deserve,

2. Islamic elitists purporting to seek an Islamic paradise adverse to western ideas and technology have no qualms in using modern technologies such as cell phones, faxes, and the internet to spread their vitriole of hatred. Yet they closely monitor, and control, access of these items to those who they purport to represent. Is it any wonder then that when Arabic peoples come to Europe that one of the first items they purchase is a cell phone ?
( See : Migrationsverket, utredning # 147-34, Intervjuer med Arabiska flyktingar . . .)

3. Most Arabic countries today suffer economic backwardness and cultural stagnaton due to their exclusion of over half their population, i.e. women. Europeans ignore this fact for the sake of political expediency. The brutal oppression of women in Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, and other countries in the middle east again begs us to take up this inequality if we are to consider ourselves true to our democratic and progressive societal ideas.

Islamic jihad is a movement whose sole aim is to guarantee the inequalities describesd above for the sake of a few, cynical men who seek to control others as a source of power expression to bolster their weak egos. Men such as Muqtada Al-Sadr, Yasser Arafat, and the other cohorts of terrorism too numerous to name are using jihad as a means to promote themselves and enrichen either their families, tribes, or themselves.
Is it any wonder that these men find it so much easier to destroy than to create, to terrorise instead of liberate, to oppresse rather than progress ?

let us all give them the respect they deserve, i.e. none whatsoever, and send them packing , either with the help of the US Army, or with the help of the people they oppress.

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