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jim travers | 20.10.2011 12:21 | World

I am beginning to wonder if moderators in Indymedia Uk are not so open to real debate, opinion, analysis and a viewpoint seen from a different angle or are they caught in the keep your mouth shut but speak quietly kind of hidden opposition. A recent article posted on Indymedia entitled 'Why we should listen to Griffin' dated 15-10-2011 was removed from the site after complaint. The moderator should have viewed the comments before he or she acted.

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Think before you act and try to provide balance of opinion before you act.

Why we should listen to Nick Griffin- posted 15-10-2011- removed 15-10-2011

The article was not meant to promote the BNP or Nick Griffin, it was posted to ask a question and seek sensible response. It would appear that the very mention of the BNP in the Uk is enough to make those who feel and think that the UK is on a slide but would rather keep that opinion out of the public areana and therefore away from public debate. The people who responded to the article ( made comment) were a small example of the racist kind on the other side who want to stifle and eliminate discussion that seeks to find an answer to the many problems asociated with racism. The same people who posted their comments and opinions are no better than the people they themselves accuse of being racist. The BNP may be seen as a racist party but there are just as many people with the same opinion as those who responded to the article.

I would also like to point out that the article was posted on other websites(outside UK) without a single complaint that would lead to the removal of the article. The article was not meant to glorify the BNP but it did point out a number of situations where the greater population of citizens in a country have a legitimate cause for concern when a very small minority of the population want to change things that effect the whole of the population. It is also important to note the constant similarities being made between the BNP and Nazi's. The people who object to opinion and analysis that does not conform to their own politican,cultural or religious opinion are the same people who seek censorship on those who think differently. Which side is displaying traits of a Nazi ideology. The recent banning of the burka in public places in France is a clear indication of how one community wants to impose its standards on the rest of the population. As with the terrible atrocities in the Uk during the time of 9/11, it was reported that the same terrorists(men) used the burka to hide their identity and leave the Uk on planes.This is a clear indication of the dangers associated with religions that insist on hiding the visual identity of people.Complain about this fact and you are called a racist. As with the Gardai in Ireland (Irish police) one Sikh decides he wanted to join the Irish police and then went about trying to construct his own little corner once he got his foot in the door. This is fact, its not made up, its on public record in Ireland as is the Black Police Officers Associatiion in England. So who is being racist? The group Residents Against Racism in Ireland was set up by a former Uk citizen who has absolutely no mandate from any resident organisation in Ireland, yet she proclaims her organisation represents residents in the Republic of ireland. If people want to give me their opinion on the issue concerned then I would be quite prepared to listen and take account of their concerns, opinions and objections to the article. What I will not accept is the racist remarks from the same people who have the cheek to accuse me of being racist.
I work with people from very many countries around the world. They are hard working, good people who live for their families and contribute to the betterment of all those in Irish society. Am I a racist?
I have no proble with people who want to practice their religion. What I do object too is having their religion slapped in my face everywhere i go. Women clothed from head to toe like ghosts that wander from A to B. The insecurity of men and their religion who see women as second class citizens, private property and human breeders. The same men frown upon the western world yet they live, work and take from the same world they so much hate.They dont drink alcohol, well not in front of their own religious kind. I'm not being racist, I'm pointing out fact, something that the majority of British people are saying quietly because the Racist movement might single the same people out for expressing their own personal opinion be they right or wrong. Where has freedom of speech gone or has this also been withdrawn because it offends a small minority of British society that is slowly eating away at the greater society? I have no real liking for the BNP but I think Nick Griffin should have been allowed speak in Trinity College, Dublin and people should have been given the opportunity to question his ideologies.

I now call on the moderator who removed my post to reinstate the post as it was not meant to offend but to pose a question for further sensible debate without foul and vulgar comment being made by people who find it easy to accuse others of being racist.

This article should be reinstated and left open for discussion and debate. Visitors should be allowed to air their opinions without having to carefully word their comments so as not to offend those who are easily offended by comments that are not of their liking.



jim travers
- e-mail: jimtravers@eircom.net

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  1. Well done mods — Antifascist
  2. @ Antifascist — A real Antifascist
  3. Yes I did read it — Antifascist
  4. I'm going to steep down to your level for you to understand... — Grrr!!!
  5. Guff — Let people have a voice
  6. You are not people! — Grrr!!!
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