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The EDL are racist, fascist Nazis and Wayne Baldwin EDL Nazi proves it.

anon | 04.07.2010 11:50 | Anti-racism | Repression | Social Struggles | South Coast | World

The English Defence League [EDL] are racist, fascist neo-Nazis. The man pictured is Wayne Baldwin. He is a member of the EDL and is a regular at EDL protests, marches and rallies. As you can see he has an EDL t-shirt hanging on his wall alongside a swastika flag. He is no stranger to violence and has stab wound on his stomach, something he enjoys showing off on EDL demonstrations.



The English Defence League are a group of mostly football hooligans who say that they are against "Islamic extremism" but who are against all Muslims and have marched on Mosques across the UK. Some of the EDL are black, some are Asian Sikhs and shockingly there are even Muslims who have joined the EDL or support the EDL, ie Abdul a Scottish Asian who is a regular at EDL events and others [who are not being named because they are female].
The EDL have rioted in UK towns including Luton, Stoke, Bolton, Dudley and Aylesbury. The EDL was formed by a group of hooligans from Luton.

The EDL claim that they are not a racist organisation and say that racists and Nazis are not welcome. Perhaps they would care to explain Wayne EDL Baldwin, a neo-Nazi?

anon

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What racist group has asian and black members?

04.07.2010 12:10

What racist group has racist and black members? Haven't you people ever heard of muslim persecution of us Sikhs as well as hinus and christians? See this :  http://barenakedislam.wordpress.com/2009/05/25/muslim-persecution-of-sikhs-and-hindus/

Sikh

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We're not Fascists or neo-Nazis

04.07.2010 12:18

We admit there are a few fascists and neo-nazis in the EDL but the vast majority of EDL hate fascists and nazis, why wouldn't they. After all Britain did fight nazism and fascism so why would we as a patriotic organisation, support fascists.

How are we racist if our ethnic minority members are welcome at our demos. Indymedia says we welcome fascists and nazis, that is not true. As for Wayne Baldwin, do you expect the EDL to do a background check on every single person who attends or demos.

Anyway sthis is what happens to whites who go into Muslim areas after dark. http://www.asianimage.co.uk/news/united_kingdom/2225405.teenager_beaten_in_park/

Its not described as raciost but if it had have been the other way around it would have been discribed as racist.

Neptune

this is getting boring

04.07.2010 12:50

so, so,so,so,so,,so boring.
Of course they are racist. At the heart of them is a racist/loyalist agenda. As always.
At face value it's being used a jew front against Muslims.
Either way by hating anyone one section of society makes you...yes you guessed racist.

Of course some will not be, and not all are fash. Most are blind,lost,naive,confused.

But to say that this...group of morons do not have a race agenda is either plain wrong.
You really are fooling no one, apart from those who follow.

See you in glasgow in sept ya filth.

Scottish antifa.

oi oi

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Why?

04.07.2010 13:14

Notice the Black EDL member
Notice the Black EDL member

If we are racist then how come we have muslim members and the leader of our youth division is of mixed race, answer that directly.

Also do you admit there are racist attacks by Muslims against Whites in Bradford all the time?

Neptune

fuck edl

04.07.2010 13:48

You can claim whatever you want- we heard your chants, we seen you act and we know about far too many bnp, bpp and other fascist/nazi scum in your ranks to think it is a coincidence. Just because you have few confused Uncle Toms in your ranks (sorry, despite trying hard couldn't really spot any Muslims- perhaps chants such "Allah was a paedo" put them off?) doesn't mean you are not racist. Also think that too many UAFers don't concentrate on is your pro-war stance, not even mentioning big pro-zionist element in EDL. You are a coalition of naive, confused people (minority) and dumb racist fuckwits of all sorts (majority). Expect resistance.

anarchist

To EDL What about your links to Ghana & Blood Diamonds? Johnny Adair?

04.07.2010 13:50

Well?

anon

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My response

04.07.2010 14:32

A EDL member who is also a ethnic minority as you can clearly see
A EDL member who is also a ethnic minority as you can clearly see

"You can claim whatever you want- we heard your chants, we seen you act and we know about far too many bnp, bpp and other fascist/nazi scum in your ranks to think it is a coincidence"

You say we are nazis, you say this because we have a few in our ranks. You make the mistake of assuming the very few nazis in the EDL are representative of the whole organization. Now if a organization is smeared as nazi obviously nazis are going to be attracted to it. Also if a organization is smeared as a racist organization then obviously racists are going to join as they will believe they are joining a racist group.

If the EDL were racist then the ethnic minorities in our organization would be attacked but they never have been.

Neptune

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Response to anon

04.07.2010 14:43

Paul Ray left the EDL and claims to have started his own organization with Nick Gregor, its Paul and Nick who have links to Johnny Adair and Nick himself who has links to blood diamonds.

Neptune

proof

04.07.2010 15:02

What more proof do I need than what I see with my own eyes.
At demos, threats I have had, the video of bus load of EDL screaming they are gonna batter "pakis"

Many are not but are being used.

oi oi

What's that?

04.07.2010 16:29

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_H286zSd1mk

Just naive and not nazi? The stupid prick fell off the van.

"Dirty muslim bastards". But you're not racist, are you "neptune"?

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9lmFqYNOo4

Not connected to the BNP, are you "neptune"?

"Fucking paki lover!" But you're not racist are you "neptune"?

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQAkdrUUkiE&feature=related

"Allah blew our coach up"

But you're not racist or islamaphobic, are you "neptune"?

Silly little nazis end up dead when they are not looking. You are being watched.


EDL Smasher

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Response to "EDL smasher"

04.07.2010 16:53

The guy that fell of the van isn't representative of the EDL, he's just one person.

The guys chanting were told by Jeff Marsh not to chant BNP and the man who said "paki lover" is not representative of the EDL.

and the title of the third video was a joke.

Neptune

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Why were my comments deleted

04.07.2010 19:20

Why were my comments deleted, oh I see, they were telling the truth, you lot don't like proper debate do you? didn't like the fact I was giving some valuable points.

On Indymedia anyone who disagrees with you can't even have a proper debate without getting their comments deleted. I suspect it was because you want to keep on brainwashing people who support this site, you didn't want any indymedia supporters to question what you tell them.

I don't expect this comment to get approved so the above was to the moderators.

Neptune

dishonesty is dangeorus ..

04.07.2010 20:39

it is plain that there are Nazis around the EDL. But it is equally clear many EDL hate Nazis. Hence the Swastika buring stunt, the many attacks on Nazis online and the EDL beating up Nazis in Whitehall last year, after they took the piss that EDL has black and jewish members.

The EDL are ultra loyalists, conservatives. they do not fit neatly in the NAZI box anon so you can go and wave a lollipop at them with your UAF mates.

But this continual guilt by association has to stop. It is the first step for the state to fit up the Left, the @s, the activists, to prove guilt by association. So beacuse there are Holocaust deniers on STW marches, does that make STW anti-semitic? no. becuase there are trotskyists in trade unions does that make all trade unionists trotskyists? no. beacuse some AR are terrorists does that make all AR terrorists? no and so for the EDL

stop using methods of the state and the stalinists. take the EDL as it is. it is still a danger and still must be dealt with.

anonymous2

The word racist

05.07.2010 08:08

The word racist is being thrown about here as a random, vague allusion to something it is blatantly not.

Hating a section of society does not make you racist. However unpleasant it is, whatever you want to call it it, is not racism.

Hating a religion does jot make you a racist. Just as hating gays does not make you racist.

Hating someone simply because of the colour of their skin, or their ethnic background, makes you racist.

Dealing with the edl needs clarity and intelligence and a political awareness that must reach beyond the traditions of petty left sloganeering.

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