Snow blankets London for Global Warming debate
oi yoi | 31.10.2008 08:58 | Climate Chaos
Snow fell as the House of Commons debated Global Warming yesterday - the first October fall in the metropolis since 1922. The Mother of Parliaments was discussing the Mother of All Bills for the last time, in a marathon six hour session.
In order to combat a projected two degree centigrade rise in global temperature, the Climate Change Bill pledges the UK to reduce its carbon dioxide emissions by 80 per cent by 2050. The bill was receiving a third reading, which means both the last chance for both democratic scrutiny and consent.
The bill creates an enormous bureaucratic apparatus for monitoring and reporting, which was expanded at the last minute. Amendments by the Government threw emissions from shipping and aviation into the monitoring program, and also included a revision of the Companies Act (c. 46) “requiring the directors’ report of a company to contain such information as may be specified in the regulations about emissions of greenhouse gases from activities for which the company is responsible” by 2012.
Recently the American media has begun to notice the odd incongruity of saturation media coverage here which insists that global warming is both man-made and urgent, and a British public which increasingly doubts either to be true. 60 per cent of the British population now doubt the influence of humans on climate change, and more people than not think Global Warming won’t be as bad “as people say”.
Both figures are higher than a year ago - and the poll was taken before the non-summer of 2008, and the (latest) credit crisis.
ed.. ( it's the coolest it's ever been, the only co2 emissions that are warming our planet are the ones coming out of your hot heads, your being used to push more hot nuclear power stations and a global carbon based tax system on us all, for gods sake get a grip on yourselves you nut jobs )
The bill creates an enormous bureaucratic apparatus for monitoring and reporting, which was expanded at the last minute. Amendments by the Government threw emissions from shipping and aviation into the monitoring program, and also included a revision of the Companies Act (c. 46) “requiring the directors’ report of a company to contain such information as may be specified in the regulations about emissions of greenhouse gases from activities for which the company is responsible” by 2012.
Recently the American media has begun to notice the odd incongruity of saturation media coverage here which insists that global warming is both man-made and urgent, and a British public which increasingly doubts either to be true. 60 per cent of the British population now doubt the influence of humans on climate change, and more people than not think Global Warming won’t be as bad “as people say”.
Both figures are higher than a year ago - and the poll was taken before the non-summer of 2008, and the (latest) credit crisis.
ed.. ( it's the coolest it's ever been, the only co2 emissions that are warming our planet are the ones coming out of your hot heads, your being used to push more hot nuclear power stations and a global carbon based tax system on us all, for gods sake get a grip on yourselves you nut jobs )
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31.10.2008 10:00
First oiyoi consistently reposts a link to a climate change denial video (1) put out by a bunch of 'free market conservationists' - ie extreme right wing libertarians. now he gives us an unattributed article (2) from Andrew Orlowski of the Register. According to wikipedia (3):
"Orlowski has produced numerous articles that attempt to cast doubt over the reality of anthropogenic climate change, or global warming. His articles often favour non-scientific pundits over the expert scientific community, for example his defence of non-scientist Christopher Monckton against the American Physical Society"
Strangely enough, Orlowski neglects to tell us how he knows that "60 per cent of the British population now doubt the influence of humans on climate change".
1:
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2008/10/411890.html
2: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/10/29/commons_climate_change_bill/
3: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Orlowski
"Orlowski has produced numerous articles that attempt to cast doubt over the reality of anthropogenic climate change, or global warming. His articles often favour non-scientific pundits over the expert scientific community, for example his defence of non-scientist Christopher Monckton against the American Physical Society"
Strangely enough, Orlowski neglects to tell us how he knows that "60 per cent of the British population now doubt the influence of humans on climate change".
1:
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2008/10/411890.html 2:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/10/29/commons_climate_change_bill/ 3:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Orlowski
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Your sources stink.
31.10.2008 10:54
Does it not concern you that you are touting the views of a bunch of right wing libertarians whose primary motivation is the protection of property rights?
If Orlowski is defending the views of the 3rd Viscount Monckton of Brenchley (1) does he also endorse Monckton's views on AIDS?
"Monckton's views on how the AIDS epidemic should be tackled have been the subject of some controversy. In an article entitled "The Myth of Heterosexual AIDS", written for the January 1987 issue of The American Spectator, he argued that "there is only one way to stop AIDS. That is to screen the entire population regularly and to quarantine all carriers of the disease for life. Every member of the population should be blood-tested every month ... all those found to be infected with the virus, even if only as carriers, should be isolated compulsorily, immediately, and permanently." This would involve isolating between 1.5 and 3 million people in the United States ("not altogether impossible") and another 30,000 people in the UK ("not insuperably difficult").[29] Monckton appeared on the BBC's Panorama programme in February 1987 to discuss his views and present the results of an opinion poll that found public support for his position.[24] In 1999 the British gay rights group OutRage! launched a campaign to force the manufacturer of Monckton's Eternity Puzzle to disassociate itself from him because of his views.[30] Monckton has since clarified his views on AIDS, stating that "the article was written at the very outset of the AIDS epidemic, and with 33 million people around the world now infected, the possibility of [quarantine] is laughable. It couldn't work."
Do you really think that these are the kinds of sources that are going to be respected on a site like IMC uk?
(1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Monckton,_3rd_Viscount_Monckton_of_Brenchley#Views_on_AIDS
If Orlowski is defending the views of the 3rd Viscount Monckton of Brenchley (1) does he also endorse Monckton's views on AIDS?
"Monckton's views on how the AIDS epidemic should be tackled have been the subject of some controversy. In an article entitled "The Myth of Heterosexual AIDS", written for the January 1987 issue of The American Spectator, he argued that "there is only one way to stop AIDS. That is to screen the entire population regularly and to quarantine all carriers of the disease for life. Every member of the population should be blood-tested every month ... all those found to be infected with the virus, even if only as carriers, should be isolated compulsorily, immediately, and permanently." This would involve isolating between 1.5 and 3 million people in the United States ("not altogether impossible") and another 30,000 people in the UK ("not insuperably difficult").[29] Monckton appeared on the BBC's Panorama programme in February 1987 to discuss his views and present the results of an opinion poll that found public support for his position.[24] In 1999 the British gay rights group OutRage! launched a campaign to force the manufacturer of Monckton's Eternity Puzzle to disassociate itself from him because of his views.[30] Monckton has since clarified his views on AIDS, stating that "the article was written at the very outset of the AIDS epidemic, and with 33 million people around the world now infected, the possibility of [quarantine] is laughable. It couldn't work."
Do you really think that these are the kinds of sources that are going to be respected on a site like IMC uk?
(1)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Monckton,_3rd_Viscount_Monckton_of_Brenchley#Views_on_AIDS
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