BPP and N9S Fall Out Bigtime
Nazi Fallout | 12.11.2006 23:33 | Anti-racism
As the far right tear themselves apart on a daily basis
The BPP and November 9th Society,two of the UKs strangest neo nazi sects have just had a massive fallout with each other.
Here we document the story so far
The BPP and November 9th Society,two of the UKs strangest neo nazi sects have just had a massive fallout with each other.
Here we document the story so far
This was documented on VNN earlier
There is a PDF file to go with this story
Whitefight 14/88 11-12-2006 03:05 PM
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Bpp Proscribed
In its 30 year history the N9S has managed to get on with all Nationalist organisations, however, we have now had to proscribe the BPP for the reasons highlighted in the attached file.
James Turner (Eddy Morrison) 11-12-2006 03:58 PM
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Whitefight is in fact Daz from South wales a former BPP organiser poached from us by the N9S. I do not want to go into he said/she said but this pdf file is just a pile of lies. We NEVER asked for the Merchandise which was sent unsolicited. Three times we asked if payment was wanted (we would have sent the stuff back should that have been the case) - this was an UNSOLICITED gift FOURTEEN months ago and it was only after the mildest criticism of Quinn that he suddenly decided that 14 motnhs later we didn't have a gift as he originally intended but in fact we had to pay for it. Talk about Indian giving! We had orders subsequently which we paid for in the sum of £50 - after that we didn't stock any more N9S Merchandise.
Kev Watmough. myself and Sid amongst others know this was a freebie we didn't ask for but which we acknowledged with grateful thanks did help us get a start when we had little funds (others helped too by the way!).
I see Daz under his 'Fuhrer's' instructions brings my drink problem into it and implies I have spent party money on drink and various other calumnies. The whole thing is school kid politics at its worst and shows the N9S to be a joke party as we have learnt to our cost as they tried continually to poach our members.
They managed to take down two and temporarily destroy our South wales and North East organisations as well as initimidating our Women's Division leader so we are left without one.
The gift they have now decided after 14 months and no invoices was not a gift is now being used as political blackmail nothing more nothing less. They can call me what they want, the reds have done much worse.
The N9S has been going for THIRTY years - we for ONE and we have more members in that short time. If the BPP had being going for 30 years and we had reached the 'dizzy levels of sucess' of the N9S -British Nazi Party- have we would have packed it in as a bad joke.
For all this time we have defended them against their many critics. Many NS think they insult the memory of the Reich by apeing the mantle of fallen heroes. We can all dress up in SS uniforms but it is a gross insult to the SS men who died.
Then there are the many who ask where all the money comes from to fund all the glossy leaflets, website and merchandise. We ourselves think the N9S though ill-conceived is not state funded - though others do think differently.
It is a great pity they have decided to make this argument public. The reds and Searchlight will have a field day of course.
To summarise
a) We received an unsolicited gift without any invoice and would have sent it back had we not been assured it was a free gift to help get the BPP started.
b)We are NOT getting into a war of words with Quinn and his Fancy Dress Party. They are wasting valuable time, money and members time on a cul-de-sac organsiation which by no stretch of the imagination could ever attract anyone other than a small bunch of National Socialists who still live in the 1930's.
At a time when White Nationalists are at last getting together to shape up some form of cooperation and unity, Quinn deciding he is above criticism (what other party has their leader's picture on their party cards - even Nick G doesn't have an ego that big!) - is using a 14 month old gift as a tool of BLACKMAIL to blacken my character and also that of Kev Watmough.
The whole thing has been built from triviality into a full blown and dastardly attack on my name and that of the BPP's. Disgusting!
14 Words!
Eddy
Whitefight 14/88 11-12-2006 04:24 PM
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1. Yes its Daz and I dont have any problem with people knowing that:p
2. I was not poached by N9S cuz I was working my guts out for both parties @ the same time, pity KW spat his dummy out over the BPPWD seeing as it was me and not N9S that advised WC not to take the position:p
3. KQ did not bring your drink prob into it, I did:p
4. It was your beloved KW that implied you were dipping into Paypal for ya wee totty before and after you left BPP:p
5. Seeing as you have more member's, why don't you pay up what is owed? Oh yea I forgot, £250 would cripple BPP. Did you forget that part:p
6. Who was it that destroyed your car? Reds, oh no it was someone in your block throwing something over the balcony:p
7. LMFWAO @ dressing up in uniforms. We wear the BLACKSHIRT with pride & dignity
kevinquinn 11-12-2006 06:01 PM
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I speak the truth.
Eddy only you and I know the truth about the merchandise. After extending the hand of friendship, I now know what you think of the N9S and myself. I have said what I had to say and will not resort to insulting you or your party. To all those that read this, I swear as a lifelong National Socialist what I have said is true. That said, I wish all patriots good luck and may victory shine on us all. And by the way, Eddy, the only reason my picture is on all party cards is because I stopped every member having their picture on the party card because of the security issues involved. I as leader decided to put my face on each, swastika bearing, card so that each member would know that I would never be ashamed to be associated with Adolf Hitler and am not ashamed to put my face to the National Socialist cause. If you knew me you would realise, I am not in this to posture or for recognition, I just love my country and am not ashamed for the world to know I am a British National Socialist.
Kevin
BHUK 11-12-2006 06:08 PM
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This is pathetic, discussing internal matters on a public forum. I'm proud to be proscribed by a mickey-mouse organisation, I've been a National Socialist since 1978 and my dreams of dressing up in nazi fancy dress ended after I became one. I didn't know WF14/88 was a 'regional organiser' and Whitechick was very keen on taking the WD organiser's job and told me to put her number online. A couple of hours later she texted to say you'd opened the letter mailed to her asking her to consider the position and told her she wasn't to accept so could I remove her number from the site. She said you thought a Women's Division was 'divisive'. Didn't the NSDAP have a women's division called the BDM?
Below is my statement to the N9S on this matter, any further comment is superfluous:
----- Original Message -----
From: Redwatch
To: Jason Smith
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: N9S merchandise.
Jason:
As far as I and the BPP are concerned, these items you claim we owe money for were given to us free of charge. There is no way we are going to pay a penny for a gift that we never asked for in the first place. What a strange coincidence that there was no call for payment for over a year and then when a leading BPP member makes a justified criticism of the N9S and their poaching of our members, there's a call for payment all of a sudden. I've never met any of your 'Regional Leaders', in fact the only member of the N9S leadership I ever met was your leader Kev Quinn when I was down in Bedford and I was only there with a friend of mine who had arranged to meet him and no mention was made to me of any merchandise for the BPP which was only a few days old at the time. I have never received a list of what was supplied or what is supposedly owed, nor have I ever been in possession of an invoice.
I have always defended the N9S from detractors in NS circles who claim it is a "Hollywood Nazi" organisation and I've also defended it to those who claim it's a ZOG front designed to ridicule our cause. From now on I'm going to remain silent.
My decision, as leader of the BPP, is this - I agree 100% with what Comrade Morrison has stated in his reply below and we are not paying you anything as we know we owe you nothing. If anyone should feel aggrieved it's us in my opinion due to your poaching of our members last summer. We hereby sever all links with you and your organisation - you go your way, we'll go ours and we'll see who makes the most progress in the future.
Racial regards,
Kevin Watmough
Leader, British People's Party
kevinquinn 11-12-2006 06:10 PM
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by For Britain
120 members in 30 years, and still trying to poach from other groups? And I'm not just talking BPP! I myself was recently aproached, and it was suggested that I was wasting my time in the group I'm in. Not the oldest, but the biggest by far.
There is no way I would consider leaving the only show in town to join a cartoon.
Yer a fucking joke...
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Thanks for the comment Sid. I did not instruct anyone to recruit you, when I found out I informed the person that you would not qualify for membership and I do not mean to be disrespectful to you at all. However, why would I want to recruit a person who actually chose to join the multi ethnic BNP over the BPP or NA who as far as I know, are 100% Aryan? I would rather Aryans die out as a race than stand side to side with Jews and Turks. I am sure you have a tactical plan; I just hope it works out for you.
Kevin
There is a PDF file to go with this story
Whitefight 14/88 11-12-2006 03:05 PM
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Bpp Proscribed
In its 30 year history the N9S has managed to get on with all Nationalist organisations, however, we have now had to proscribe the BPP for the reasons highlighted in the attached file.
James Turner (Eddy Morrison) 11-12-2006 03:58 PM
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Whitefight is in fact Daz from South wales a former BPP organiser poached from us by the N9S. I do not want to go into he said/she said but this pdf file is just a pile of lies. We NEVER asked for the Merchandise which was sent unsolicited. Three times we asked if payment was wanted (we would have sent the stuff back should that have been the case) - this was an UNSOLICITED gift FOURTEEN months ago and it was only after the mildest criticism of Quinn that he suddenly decided that 14 motnhs later we didn't have a gift as he originally intended but in fact we had to pay for it. Talk about Indian giving! We had orders subsequently which we paid for in the sum of £50 - after that we didn't stock any more N9S Merchandise.
Kev Watmough. myself and Sid amongst others know this was a freebie we didn't ask for but which we acknowledged with grateful thanks did help us get a start when we had little funds (others helped too by the way!).
I see Daz under his 'Fuhrer's' instructions brings my drink problem into it and implies I have spent party money on drink and various other calumnies. The whole thing is school kid politics at its worst and shows the N9S to be a joke party as we have learnt to our cost as they tried continually to poach our members.
They managed to take down two and temporarily destroy our South wales and North East organisations as well as initimidating our Women's Division leader so we are left without one.
The gift they have now decided after 14 months and no invoices was not a gift is now being used as political blackmail nothing more nothing less. They can call me what they want, the reds have done much worse.
The N9S has been going for THIRTY years - we for ONE and we have more members in that short time. If the BPP had being going for 30 years and we had reached the 'dizzy levels of sucess' of the N9S -British Nazi Party- have we would have packed it in as a bad joke.
For all this time we have defended them against their many critics. Many NS think they insult the memory of the Reich by apeing the mantle of fallen heroes. We can all dress up in SS uniforms but it is a gross insult to the SS men who died.
Then there are the many who ask where all the money comes from to fund all the glossy leaflets, website and merchandise. We ourselves think the N9S though ill-conceived is not state funded - though others do think differently.
It is a great pity they have decided to make this argument public. The reds and Searchlight will have a field day of course.
To summarise
a) We received an unsolicited gift without any invoice and would have sent it back had we not been assured it was a free gift to help get the BPP started.
b)We are NOT getting into a war of words with Quinn and his Fancy Dress Party. They are wasting valuable time, money and members time on a cul-de-sac organsiation which by no stretch of the imagination could ever attract anyone other than a small bunch of National Socialists who still live in the 1930's.
At a time when White Nationalists are at last getting together to shape up some form of cooperation and unity, Quinn deciding he is above criticism (what other party has their leader's picture on their party cards - even Nick G doesn't have an ego that big!) - is using a 14 month old gift as a tool of BLACKMAIL to blacken my character and also that of Kev Watmough.
The whole thing has been built from triviality into a full blown and dastardly attack on my name and that of the BPP's. Disgusting!
14 Words!
Eddy
Whitefight 14/88 11-12-2006 04:24 PM
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1. Yes its Daz and I dont have any problem with people knowing that:p
2. I was not poached by N9S cuz I was working my guts out for both parties @ the same time, pity KW spat his dummy out over the BPPWD seeing as it was me and not N9S that advised WC not to take the position:p
3. KQ did not bring your drink prob into it, I did:p
4. It was your beloved KW that implied you were dipping into Paypal for ya wee totty before and after you left BPP:p
5. Seeing as you have more member's, why don't you pay up what is owed? Oh yea I forgot, £250 would cripple BPP. Did you forget that part:p
6. Who was it that destroyed your car? Reds, oh no it was someone in your block throwing something over the balcony:p
7. LMFWAO @ dressing up in uniforms. We wear the BLACKSHIRT with pride & dignity
kevinquinn 11-12-2006 06:01 PM
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I speak the truth.
Eddy only you and I know the truth about the merchandise. After extending the hand of friendship, I now know what you think of the N9S and myself. I have said what I had to say and will not resort to insulting you or your party. To all those that read this, I swear as a lifelong National Socialist what I have said is true. That said, I wish all patriots good luck and may victory shine on us all. And by the way, Eddy, the only reason my picture is on all party cards is because I stopped every member having their picture on the party card because of the security issues involved. I as leader decided to put my face on each, swastika bearing, card so that each member would know that I would never be ashamed to be associated with Adolf Hitler and am not ashamed to put my face to the National Socialist cause. If you knew me you would realise, I am not in this to posture or for recognition, I just love my country and am not ashamed for the world to know I am a British National Socialist.
Kevin
BHUK 11-12-2006 06:08 PM
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This is pathetic, discussing internal matters on a public forum. I'm proud to be proscribed by a mickey-mouse organisation, I've been a National Socialist since 1978 and my dreams of dressing up in nazi fancy dress ended after I became one. I didn't know WF14/88 was a 'regional organiser' and Whitechick was very keen on taking the WD organiser's job and told me to put her number online. A couple of hours later she texted to say you'd opened the letter mailed to her asking her to consider the position and told her she wasn't to accept so could I remove her number from the site. She said you thought a Women's Division was 'divisive'. Didn't the NSDAP have a women's division called the BDM?
Below is my statement to the N9S on this matter, any further comment is superfluous:
----- Original Message -----
From: Redwatch
To: Jason Smith
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: N9S merchandise.
Jason:
As far as I and the BPP are concerned, these items you claim we owe money for were given to us free of charge. There is no way we are going to pay a penny for a gift that we never asked for in the first place. What a strange coincidence that there was no call for payment for over a year and then when a leading BPP member makes a justified criticism of the N9S and their poaching of our members, there's a call for payment all of a sudden. I've never met any of your 'Regional Leaders', in fact the only member of the N9S leadership I ever met was your leader Kev Quinn when I was down in Bedford and I was only there with a friend of mine who had arranged to meet him and no mention was made to me of any merchandise for the BPP which was only a few days old at the time. I have never received a list of what was supplied or what is supposedly owed, nor have I ever been in possession of an invoice.
I have always defended the N9S from detractors in NS circles who claim it is a "Hollywood Nazi" organisation and I've also defended it to those who claim it's a ZOG front designed to ridicule our cause. From now on I'm going to remain silent.
My decision, as leader of the BPP, is this - I agree 100% with what Comrade Morrison has stated in his reply below and we are not paying you anything as we know we owe you nothing. If anyone should feel aggrieved it's us in my opinion due to your poaching of our members last summer. We hereby sever all links with you and your organisation - you go your way, we'll go ours and we'll see who makes the most progress in the future.
Racial regards,
Kevin Watmough
Leader, British People's Party
kevinquinn 11-12-2006 06:10 PM
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by For Britain
120 members in 30 years, and still trying to poach from other groups? And I'm not just talking BPP! I myself was recently aproached, and it was suggested that I was wasting my time in the group I'm in. Not the oldest, but the biggest by far.
There is no way I would consider leaving the only show in town to join a cartoon.
Yer a fucking joke...
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Thanks for the comment Sid. I did not instruct anyone to recruit you, when I found out I informed the person that you would not qualify for membership and I do not mean to be disrespectful to you at all. However, why would I want to recruit a person who actually chose to join the multi ethnic BNP over the BPP or NA who as far as I know, are 100% Aryan? I would rather Aryans die out as a race than stand side to side with Jews and Turks. I am sure you have a tactical plan; I just hope it works out for you.
Kevin
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