As the white wash to cover up who killed Jean Charles de Menezes and why continues. According to the BBC a new account of the murder.
It would appear that Menezes walked into the station normally and only started to rrun after he passed through the ticket barrier when he saw (they mean heard) a train coming into the station. Contrary to earlier police reports that he vaulted the barrier.
It would appear that Menezes walked into the station normally and only started to rrun after he passed through the ticket barrier when he saw (they mean heard) a train coming into the station. Contrary to earlier police reports that he vaulted the barrier.
Well what a turn up for the IMC team of police tracker dogs who have been arguing in the police's case since the moment Senor Menezes was gunned down at Stockwell Tube.
here we get a quote from some dude called Daniel Sandford who states quite clearly that menezes walked into the tube station and even hhad time to pick up a free newspaper. He walked through the tiicket barrier and only started to run when he saw a train coming, well as far as I recall it's not possible to see the trains coming until you are actually on the platform( I lived on clapham road, 200 yards from the tube station, for 10 years). But you can hear the trains coming and a lot of people make a bolt for it after the ticket barrier. The northern line trians 'used' to make a different sound to the Victoria line trains so iif you used the station a lot you could tell if the train was north or south bound and which line it was on.
There fore Menezes actions were totally normal and seems to indicate
that perhaps government health warnings should be prescribed on Londons Underground network. "Running for your trian could seriously damage your health"
Now we get to the much what the police actually said.
1) In the immediate aftermath of the incident, police said Mr de Menezes had been acting suspiciously and suggested he had vaulted the ticket barriers.
that is exactly what I heard on european TV .
2) Police also said the Brazilian electrician had worn a large winter-style coat - but the leaked version suggested he had in fact worn a denim jacket.
again this story was splashed all over the worlds TV and arguments raged on IMC about what the cops actually said.
But here we are almost a month after this guy was gunned down in cold blood and britains national media network is still quoting the police as saying that they had good reason to take him out with eight head shots.
Of course the idea of all this is to blur the event in the general publics minds. If you asked most punters on the street 90% would probably be dead certain that the dead man was an Al Queda trained electronics expert wearing the same turban that Bin London was wearing in the latest disney video release.
there was also a new (to me) piece of evidence involving a community office (whats one of them ?)
The leaked version said Mr de Menezes was being restrained by a community officer when he was shot by armed police, our correspondent added.
Perhaps this is this the red herring designed to discredit all the evidence against the police ..
the BBC article in full
Fears over Menezes death 'leak'
Last Updated: Tuesday, 16 August 2005, 22:36 GMT 23:36 UK
A new account of the shooting has reportedly emerged
Investigators looking into how police mistook a Brazilian man for a suicide bomber and shot him, are concerned over an alleged leak of sensitive documents.
The documents seem to cast doubt over the police's version of the death of Jean Charles de Menezes, shot dead at Stockwell Tube station on 22 July.
The Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) said its priority was to keep Mr de Menezes family informed.
The shooting occurred the day after the failed bomb attacks of 21 July.
In a statement, the IPCC said it does not know where the documents, obtained by ITV news, came from.
Acting suspiciously
BBC home affairs correspondent Daniel Sandford said the leaked documents appeared to be witness and police statements given to the IPCC.
The IPCC made it clear that we would not speculate or release partial information about the investigation, and that others should not do so
IPCC statement
He said the statements suggest Mr de Menezes had walked into Stockwell Tube station, picked up a free newspaper, walked through ticket barriers and had started to run when he saw a train arriving.
In the immediate aftermath of the incident, police said Mr de Menezes had been acting suspiciously and suggested he had vaulted the ticket barriers.
Police also said the Brazilian electrician had worn a large winter-style coat - but the leaked version suggested he had in fact worn a denim jacket.
The leaked version said Mr de Menezes was being restrained by a community officer when he was shot by armed police, our correspondent added.
'High security'
The IPCC would not comment on the details of the leak.
The commission said the family "will clearly be distressed that they have received information on television concerning his death".
Its statement added: "The IPCC made it clear that we would not speculate or release partial information about the investigation, and that others should not do so. That remains the case."
The commission said it operated a "very high degree of security" on all of its investigations.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4157892.stm
here we get a quote from some dude called Daniel Sandford who states quite clearly that menezes walked into the tube station and even hhad time to pick up a free newspaper. He walked through the tiicket barrier and only started to run when he saw a train coming, well as far as I recall it's not possible to see the trains coming until you are actually on the platform( I lived on clapham road, 200 yards from the tube station, for 10 years). But you can hear the trains coming and a lot of people make a bolt for it after the ticket barrier. The northern line trians 'used' to make a different sound to the Victoria line trains so iif you used the station a lot you could tell if the train was north or south bound and which line it was on.
There fore Menezes actions were totally normal and seems to indicate
that perhaps government health warnings should be prescribed on Londons Underground network. "Running for your trian could seriously damage your health"
Now we get to the much what the police actually said.
1) In the immediate aftermath of the incident, police said Mr de Menezes had been acting suspiciously and suggested he had vaulted the ticket barriers.
that is exactly what I heard on european TV .
2) Police also said the Brazilian electrician had worn a large winter-style coat - but the leaked version suggested he had in fact worn a denim jacket.
again this story was splashed all over the worlds TV and arguments raged on IMC about what the cops actually said.
But here we are almost a month after this guy was gunned down in cold blood and britains national media network is still quoting the police as saying that they had good reason to take him out with eight head shots.
Of course the idea of all this is to blur the event in the general publics minds. If you asked most punters on the street 90% would probably be dead certain that the dead man was an Al Queda trained electronics expert wearing the same turban that Bin London was wearing in the latest disney video release.
there was also a new (to me) piece of evidence involving a community office (whats one of them ?)
The leaked version said Mr de Menezes was being restrained by a community officer when he was shot by armed police, our correspondent added.
Perhaps this is this the red herring designed to discredit all the evidence against the police ..
the BBC article in full
Fears over Menezes death 'leak'
Last Updated: Tuesday, 16 August 2005, 22:36 GMT 23:36 UK
A new account of the shooting has reportedly emerged
Investigators looking into how police mistook a Brazilian man for a suicide bomber and shot him, are concerned over an alleged leak of sensitive documents.
The documents seem to cast doubt over the police's version of the death of Jean Charles de Menezes, shot dead at Stockwell Tube station on 22 July.
The Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) said its priority was to keep Mr de Menezes family informed.
The shooting occurred the day after the failed bomb attacks of 21 July.
In a statement, the IPCC said it does not know where the documents, obtained by ITV news, came from.
Acting suspiciously
BBC home affairs correspondent Daniel Sandford said the leaked documents appeared to be witness and police statements given to the IPCC.
The IPCC made it clear that we would not speculate or release partial information about the investigation, and that others should not do so
IPCC statement
He said the statements suggest Mr de Menezes had walked into Stockwell Tube station, picked up a free newspaper, walked through ticket barriers and had started to run when he saw a train arriving.
In the immediate aftermath of the incident, police said Mr de Menezes had been acting suspiciously and suggested he had vaulted the ticket barriers.
Police also said the Brazilian electrician had worn a large winter-style coat - but the leaked version suggested he had in fact worn a denim jacket.
The leaked version said Mr de Menezes was being restrained by a community officer when he was shot by armed police, our correspondent added.
'High security'
The IPCC would not comment on the details of the leak.
The commission said the family "will clearly be distressed that they have received information on television concerning his death".
Its statement added: "The IPCC made it clear that we would not speculate or release partial information about the investigation, and that others should not do so. That remains the case."
The commission said it operated a "very high degree of security" on all of its investigations.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4157892.stm
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