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Police raid server, Bristol IMC closing down

On of Bristol IMC collective | 27.08.2014 15:35 | Indymedia | Policing

Bristol Indymedia site is now officially closed for good following a police raid targeting an anarchist group.

Bristol and South West region has seen recently a number of attacks and actions on State equipment and places of repression, attacks that were reported on Bristol Indymedia.

Bristol and Avon police obtained a court order to physically access the Bristol Indymedia server and all of its records in conjunction with their investigation into people who may have been involved. Regretfully owing to an administration error by one of the techies all IP address details for the past 16 months were still stored on the server and these have been recorded by the police. We advise people to make personal security arrangements with this in mind.

We are working with a local firm of solicitors but at present do not anticipate the Bristol Indymedia site ever returning to a open publishing model although the diary page will remain.

The power of the State when threatened can be immense and we have seen that this week.

Love and rage everybody.
Bristol IMC

On of Bristol IMC collective
- Homepage: bristol.indymedia.org

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some small differences in accounts

27.08.2014 16:13

This promoted article on BIMC seems to confirm that police have had access to the server:
 http://bristol.indymedia.org/2014/08/27/the-police-have-physically-accessed-the-bristol-indymedia-server/
...however, it does not mention anything about the last 16 months of IP addresses being stored, only warning users that from this point on, the site may be compromised.

If the claim that the last 16 months of IP addresses have also been compromised is true, could the BIMC article please be modified to include that statement? Otherwise it could easily be misinformation.

anonymous

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Good point raised, an explanation

27.08.2014 16:20

This latest information regrading the recording of IP details has only come to light today after we posted the information to our newswire. A decision has been made that none of the collective will add any further posts to the newswire or modify the existing one because to do so would compromise their details and allow the police to claim that these individuals were the 'leaders' of the Bristol Indymedia collective, there are legal consequences to this.

A banner on the Bristol Indymedia newswire already makes clear that IP details are compromised on the site for people even looking, not just posting.

Hope that clears things up.

One of Bristol IMC collective

Sorry to hear guys but......

27.08.2014 16:24

Sorry to hear of the police action here, perhaps after the attack on the gun training centre this sort of response by them was inevitible. Putting that to one side it is really not on to discover that since you moved to the new platform IP codes have been recorded by yourselves, questions need to be asked and an explanation given, activists have been put at risk because of this and the details discovered by the police will likely be used in any proecution.

Bristol boy

HUGE fuck-up by Indymedia

28.08.2014 00:14

A huge fuck-up by Indymedia as regards IP addresses; but when you consider that when the actions of the Conspiracy Cells of Undercover Cops who committed these offences in the 1st place were subject to open criticism by other radicals on these pages, Indymedia then chose to remove pro-Cells responses which showed the pro-Cells supporter/s were anti-semitic, ketamine users, involved in attacks on anarchist and radical premises, apologists for the psychopathic criminal John Bowden, and sometimes followers of right-wing "neo-folk" music and of Nazi bands like Non etc. Lie down with dogs, wake up with fleas. The whole Bristol (so-called) "anarchist" (so-called) "terror" scenario has been carefully set-up by the same State provocateurs who placed scum like Mark Kennedy into the movement, but Indymedia, despite constant warnings, wandered into an obvious trap that has now compromised the safety of thousands of other radicals

All the more tragic because at least some of the people responsible for creating this fuck-up were probably genuine (if wildly naive) radicals

Kev

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What about IP addresses for visitors to THIS website?!

28.08.2014 00:24

Urgent statement required about whether IP addresses have been recorded for users of THIS website

Right now please. Like, immediately

2004

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iP recording at indymedia UK

28.08.2014 05:22

It is the policy of indymedia uk NOT to record the IP details of posters, this is clearly stated in our founding statement however there are times when due to the actions of The British security services, Israeli army units and informal trolls IP recording does have to be used to identify those responsible and their locations.

The recording is never for a long period and records are erased after analysis.

IMCister

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Simply not acceptable

28.08.2014 05:53

Sorry to hear about the bust but a technical cock up of this magnitude deserves more than just a few lines with advice to "consider security arrangements" that is not good enough.

Bizzie person

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Don't be so silly - "British security services, Israeli army units"

28.08.2014 06:29

At the risk of puncturing your ego I think we can safely say neither the "British security services" or the "Israeli army" give a monkeys about Indymedia uk.

The current Google stats show the current average daily readership is now down to less than a hundred people. I think both of the above organisations have far more important media targets.

Get a grip there IMCister

Ignore 'Kev'

28.08.2014 06:56

He's a serial troller who always posts the same lies and smears. He's either got serious mental health problems (paranoia, delusions) or he's just a troll posting lies useful to the state. You can find his/their posts on IMC UK going back a long way. And he knows absolutely fuck all about what he's posting about.

Why don't you fuck off and get a blog PC 'Kev'?

Ian C

Re: 'One of Bristol IMC collective'

28.08.2014 21:01

So, you are seriously telling us that a brand new website that was launched in the early part of this year has IP logs going back 16 months?

The time for an April Fool's Joke was almost immediately after the new site launched.......

Or perhaps you are a troll?

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Interesting to note when this was hidden.

29.08.2014 07:28

A post of interest to all who support the Indymedia project and it's a shame to see what was once one of the most vibrant and well supported Indymedia sites closing down. Interesting to note when this post was hidden, not the first day when it talked about only the fact that Bristol was closing, not the second day when comments were posted saying what a shame it was the site had closed but the third day when people began to ask questions about the IP logging situation and policy here at Indymedia UK - funny that !

Allen

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re: Allen

29.08.2014 07:52

"Interesting to note when this post was hidden, not the first day when it talked about only the fact that Bristol was closing, not the second day when comments were posted saying what a shame it was the site had closed but the third day when people began to ask questions about the IP logging situation and policy here at Indymedia UK - funny that ! "

Nothing funny about it. A lie was posted namely that "all IP address details for the past 16 months were still stored on the server" - which was untue because 1) The site had only been operating on that CMS and server for 5 months and 2) Bristol Indymedia don't ever log IP addresses.

Indymedia uk has the ability to log IP addresses, but uses it only infrequently to detect trolls. IP numbers are not written to the hard drive, and are not stored on the server. The Indymedia uk server is in Iceland and therefore much harder for the police to access.

This was made clear after the collective met last year:
 https://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/static/privacy.html

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