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BAE Systems - some good news for once

Disarm DSEI | 06.11.2013 12:26 | Anti-militarism

Warship factory forced to close.

The arms trade takes a hit

Great news today as it was announced that BAE Systems will be closing Portsmouth, Govan and Scotstoun naval shipyards. Portsmouth will remain open until work is completed on the two un-needed aircraft carriers so there are still opportunities for local activists to disrupt the war machine.

Some people have focused on the job losses associated with these closures however this is something we are pleased about. These individuals chose to work for arms dealers so they deserve what they get

It's all about Karma people !




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1,775 jobs lost, nothing to be celebrating.

06.11.2013 13:50

You might be happy to see 1,775 people losing their jobs but others do not. Yes these people work for BAE Systems and yes they made warships but perhaps you could suggest what else they could do in areas where defence manufacturers are not only the dominant employer but often the only one who provides work for people with certain skills.

The UK defence industry represents 10% of UK manufacturing, employing over 300,000 people and generating over £35 billion per year to the UK economy.

It's also worth noting that many other companies provide equipment or services to the MoD including - Ford, Tesco, BOSE, BT, Renault, Rayban, Dunlop, Phillips and many others, are we to assume their staff are also subject to your 'karma' ?

Time to grow up.

Trade unionist

Grow up?

06.11.2013 14:10

The Trade Unionist simply Illustrates the dead end (in this case literally!) of the unions. Never mind what is produced, capital and work are god until resources run out, and then? In fact technology increasingly is making more and more people superfluous to the commodity racket every day. It is they who must update their map of reality.

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All are to blame

06.11.2013 16:23

There is no excuse, if you work for anybody that supports the war machine you are in the wrong.

Peace

1,775 arms manufacturers out of work today

06.11.2013 16:53

Cheered me up no end

Very pleased

suggestions ?

06.11.2013 16:57

As I said, "The UK defence industry represents 10% of UK manufacturing, employing over 300,000 people and generating over £35 billion per year to the UK economy"

What practicle suggestions do you have about replacing those jobs and the jobs of the other industries who are in part reliant on the defence industry. How are you going to replace that £35 billion per year ? Shall we close some hospitals or schools perhaps ?

Trade Unionist

Suggestion

06.11.2013 17:17

Apparently the answer is windfarms....lots and lots and lots of windfarms!!

Oh look, there goes a flying purple pig past my window!

Arms Dealer

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Suggestions

06.11.2013 17:28

Return to university for new skills
Establish a workers co-operative in the sites and make win turbines not war machines
Use their skills as ship builders to produce wind powered boats that do not use fossil fuels

I could go on

Peace

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Stupid suggestions

06.11.2013 17:38

Return to university for new skills
- - "Return" ? Has it occured to you most of those losing their jobs will be working class people never lucky enough to have gone. Mean and women with manual labour skills

Establish a workers co-operative in the sites and make win turbines not war machines
- - - Have you any evidence at all, even a little bit that this is a viable idea ?

Use their skills as ship builders to produce wind powered boats that do not use fossil fuels
- - - "wind powered boats" Words fail me !!!

Actual worker

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