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EDL + Innocence of Muslims film - Walthamstow Oct 27

Patrick | 18.09.2012 01:32 | Anti-racism | Culture | Social Struggles

Having messed-up almost every aspect of their protest in Walthamstow on Sept 1st, the EDL are threatening to show career-criminal Nakoula Basseley Nakoula's film Innocence of Muslims when the EDL return to Walthamstow, 27 Oct 2012. Here are some suggestions....

EDL and NF support each other in Newcastle
EDL and NF support each other in Newcastle

Hitler salute by EDL in Walthamstow
Hitler salute by EDL in Walthamstow

EDL Welsh Division - Nazi tattoos & salutes
EDL Welsh Division - Nazi tattoos & salutes

Islamist Anjem Choudary confirms total opposition to left-wing groups
Islamist Anjem Choudary confirms total opposition to left-wing groups

Anjem Choudary studying law (before the beard)
Anjem Choudary studying law (before the beard)


Having messed-up almost every aspect of their pitiful protest in Walthamstow on Sept 1st, the EDL are threatening to show convicted drug-dealer, fraudster and career-criminal Nakoula Basseley Nakoula's controversial film Innocence of Muslims when the EDL return to Walthamstow, East London, 27 Oct 2012.

Despite the numbers of Muslims who've participated in the (sometimes violent, sometimes peaceful) protests against this film being a miniscule proportion of the world-wide Muslim population, the EDL are making this threat in the hope of attracting media attention, and in the hope of discrediting anti-fascist counter-protestors by association with the Muslim extremists who the EDL hope will also oppose them. Islamo-Fascist groups have used protests against this film as a pretext for launching attacks overseas, and, just like their Islamo-Fascist counterparts, the EDL also seek to whip-up religious hate, with no regard for the safety of people who get caught-up in the violence they seek to worsten. The EDL have been warned that for instance British Embassy staff may die as a direct result of the EDL pouring petrol on this proverbial fire, but the EDL don't give a damn, as long as Tommy Robinson gets on TV. It's hard to know how this might play-out in Walthamstow on Oct 27, but there's a real danger the EDL might turn this to their tactical advantage, so here are some suggestions that may help limit their chances in advance....

1. Use every communications medium to promote photos of EDL demonstrating with the NF and of the EDL giving Nazi salutes and displaying Nazi tattoos etc, to keep proving to the public and world media that the EDL are as Fascist as their Islamist counterparts - a picture speaks 1,000 words! Use the Walthamstow demo to remind people about EDL founder Paul Ray's self-confessed influence on child-murdering serial-killer Anders Breivik.

2. Porn-ogling careerist Anjem Choudary led a protest of just 150 Islamo-Fascist morons outside the US Embassy in London on Sept 14 - use the internet to remind people how Anjem Choudary says Muslims are "strictly forbidden" from supporting or standing alongside the left-wing groups who co-ordinate protests against the EDL (whatever Indymedia users may think of the SWP and UAF, Anjem Choudary's open admission that he hates the left is a real PR asset for anti-fascism)

3. Stress that while alleged Innocence of Muslims author Nakoula Basseley Nakoula pretends to be some sort of Christian, his actual career includes convictions for bank fraud, tax evasion, identity theft and methamphetamine manufacture - Nakoula Basseley Nakoula doesn't represent Christianity, America or the West, any more than Tommy Robinson's 200 Sieg-Heiling thugs represent football supporters or Anjem Choudary's 150 drones represent British Muslims.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakoula_Basseley_Nakoula

Patrick

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good post

18.09.2012 09:17

interesting points made here. The EDL are all but finished, and their plans for walthamstow betray both their desperation and their stupidity. How do they think they're gonna come out of it well? Oct 28 will be their last little hurrah - and it won't be a good day for them...

heep


SWP

18.09.2012 10:44

Funny cos the SWP would support nutters like Adjhem Choudhury arguing that his rage is motivated by Western imperalism.
But he hates them!

Dan Factor


The EDL will not be silenced by misguided apologists for extremist Islam

18.09.2012 11:17

The EDL will not be silenced by misguided apologists for extremist Islam who claim that Islamic extremism is not a threat! Who are they trying to kid? We have had the bombings of the American embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in the late 1990s, the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Centre, the 2001 attack on the World Trade Centre, the Madrid bombing, The Bali bombing, the London 2005 bombings, the Mumbai bombing, the attack on Glasgow airport, the plot to bomb the Tiger Tiger bar in central London! Plus we have had the recent riots and murders of people during attacks on American embassies across the world by thousands of muslims in their over-reaction to a sloppy amateurish film which mocks their religion.

Islamic extremism is a threat


bollocks

18.09.2012 11:33

how are they going to show it? there is only the trailer. what venue? what equipment? will plod allow them? arse. its publicity for a rapdily dying bunch of bugles who cant even agree with each other. the only film theyll be showing is the gick on their crack teeth!

Malatesta


@Islamic extremism is a threat

18.09.2012 11:46

EDL are finished don't cry about it on here you fuckwit.

no tears


YouTube as agent-provocateur

18.09.2012 11:54

YouTube constantly spike content that's far less inflammatory than this, but in this case they're happy to not delete the Innocence of Muslims film - despite people getting killed, because what's a few deaths against the publicity YouTube get from remaining at the centre of a global news story?

Agent provocateurs can be commercial as well as purely political

By way of background, Google have changed the search options along the top menu-bar of the main Google search page, from (what it used to say) "Video" to "YouTube" specifically

Mac


@Dan Factor @Malatesta

18.09.2012 12:05

Even if the SWP did argue that Anjem Choudary's rage is caused by Western imperalism, that doesn't mean the SWP "support" him. What really motivates Anjem Choudary is his own failures - his failure to set-up a career as a doctor, then, second time round, his failure to establish himself as a successful lawyer. In a tiny extremist group like Islam4UK, Choudary feels like a "successful" leader

As for Malatesta, whatever you think about the SWP (and I loathe them) if it had been left to the anarchist movement the blunt truth is the EDL would march unopposed 90% of the time they mobilise - the fact is the they fuck-up sometimes and their politics stink, but, all things considered, the SWP/UAF/LMHR did a pretty good job in Walthamstow

Cado


tactics

18.09.2012 13:45

the Malatesta stuff is non-partisan and we advocate a 'whatever it takes' strategy. if you want to physically oppose the fash that's fine by us, as are UAF, SWP, community opposition and peaceful and not so peaceful blocking tactics like at brighton bristol and walthamstow. the fash just see all antifascists as 'UAF' - testament to their astounding political naivety. we do not slag anyone off apart from eejits like jeffrey marshbubbles who is lonely and needs the attention.

Cado!


Wrong name!

18.09.2012 13:46

the above is us not Cado!

Malatesta


The EDL are NOT finished!

18.09.2012 17:44

The EDL are not finished at all! It is you so called anti-fascists who are finished. So called anti-fascists behaving like mindless morons:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z03WXCKOBoI
I would like to see you defending injuring horses as shown in that video! I thought you people were supposed to be into animal rights what hypocrites you are!

So called anti-fascist are the real fascists!


@So called anti-fascist are the real fascists!

18.09.2012 19:21

Get with 2012 and some English classes you ignoramus!

Barry Cade


EDL Is Over!

18.09.2012 20:29

its over, you lost, no one cares. 200 at walthamstow. you shit em!

Malatesta


@So called whatever

18.09.2012 20:35


off you go now

there there


Both extremes are bad

19.09.2012 21:17

The extreme left and the extreme right are both as bad as each other. Popularity waxes and wanes between the two depending on what is political advantageous.

The real problem is that we're primitive territorial beasts. We'll evolve out of this in a few thousand years or kill each other before then.

KermitTheFrog


@Kermit

19.09.2012 23:50

EVEN IF "the extreme left and the extreme right are both as bad as each other", thankfully ALL people who oppose Fascism, ie - roughly 98% of the British population, are by definition Anti-Fascists

As for whether "the real problem is that we're primitive territorial beasts" and "we'll evolve out of this in a few thousand years or kill each other", those people who don't spend their time killing each other, ie - again roughly 98% of people from all nationalities, beliefs and communities etc - have evolved out of this ALREADY

Sash


EDL / CxF Nazi in Swastika shirt

19.09.2012 23:55

EDL / CxF Nazi in Swastika shirt
EDL / CxF Nazi in Swastika shirt

The photo is Mike "No Relation" Mosley, founder of EDL splinter group Combined Ex-Forces, showing his absolute contempt for all forces personnel who died protecting Britain from the Nazis in WW2

Sash


Of course Islamic extremism is a threat...

20.09.2012 00:26

The clue's in the word... "extremism". As well as Anders Breivik, EDL activists Michael Heaton and Trevor Hannington were also extremists - violent Nazis who were jailed for inciting the murder of blacks and Jews, while Hannington's friends Ian Davison and Nicky Davison were jailed for making chemical weapons and nail-bombs

Ditto for other far-right terrorists including BNP member Terence Gavin, BNP councillor Robert Cottage, BNP member Ellis Hammond, and recently jailed Nazi bomb-makers like Neil Lewington, Martyn Gilleard and Nathan Worrell. All of these exrtemists would have happily "done a Breivik" if they hadn't been stopped in time

Roadie


eejits all around

20.09.2012 10:17

it is also very rare that left wingers murder each other like C18, wolfs hook etc or are jailed for the terrorism that the far right accuse 'muslamics' of.

Makatesta


No room for complacency

30.09.2012 11:53

The police may mount a 'substantial' operation in Walthamstow 2, to facilitate the way for EDL. Maybe not on the scale of Welling '93, where the cops trashed the demo to defend the BNP. But if we anti-Fascists, (whatever political colours we support,) are not building the biggest demo we can, then we could hand the EDL a undeserved victory.

I am SWP, I guess most of you are anarchists, you have your numbers in east London on that day with your book fair. Unfortunately very few anarchists turned up last time in Walthamstow, this time, I hope more of you come, the ball in your court! You can't away blame the SWP for anything if you don't bother turn up!

micky