Bob Lambert talk disrupted
off the pig | 11.02.2012 21:30 | SHAC | Animal Liberation | Policing
Ex-informant turned academic, Bob Lambert, faced heckling and embarrassment in St. Andrews during his first public engagement since news broke regarding the son he fathered with an activist.
On Thursday 9th February two animal rights activists disrupt a talk in St. Andrews by recently 'outed' police spy Bob Lambert.
Bob Lambert, who worked deep undercover in the London animal rights and environmental political scene, is one of many recently exposed undercover police in the UK radical political scene. Whilst serving in the Metropolitan police, Bob Lambert infiltrated London Greenpeace and animal rights groups with the intent of disrupting their activities. During his time undercover Bob Lambert also fathered a child with a fellow activist whilst withholding information about his true identity and intent. Two years after the child's birth Bob Lambert left the activist scene and returned to a conventional policing role.
Almost twenty years later Bob Lambert poses as a 'progressive academic' and sat on a panel at his home university, the University of St. Andrews, for a talk titled 'Overcoming Obstacles: Counter-Terrorism Police and Community Engagement.' Several activists leafleted the talk outside handing out leaflets that read:
''Do you think it's alright to…trick someone into a romantic relationship so that you can spy on them and their friends?…lie to them and everyone else about your identity in order to do so?…maintain this pretence of love and trust for more than a year? …have a child with your deceived 'partner' and then abandon the child for decades while concealing your identity from them?
Robert Lambert, the man speaking before you seems to think that this is acceptable behaviour for a public servant. He engaged in all of them during his years as an officer with the Metropolitan Police, sent to spy on peaceful environmental and animal rights campaigns. Perhaps this is Lambert's idea of 'community engagement.'
Is it yours?''
As soon as Bob Lambert started his talk two animal rights activists stormed out after shouting and pointing at Bob Lambert phrases like, 'shame!', 'where is your son, Bob?' and 'sex is not community engagement!.' Audience members reported him as startled and mumbled the first section of his speech.
We were thrilled.
We challenge the State's use of womyn's bodies; all animals are equal regardless of gender or species.
Go vegan.
Bob Lambert, who worked deep undercover in the London animal rights and environmental political scene, is one of many recently exposed undercover police in the UK radical political scene. Whilst serving in the Metropolitan police, Bob Lambert infiltrated London Greenpeace and animal rights groups with the intent of disrupting their activities. During his time undercover Bob Lambert also fathered a child with a fellow activist whilst withholding information about his true identity and intent. Two years after the child's birth Bob Lambert left the activist scene and returned to a conventional policing role.
Almost twenty years later Bob Lambert poses as a 'progressive academic' and sat on a panel at his home university, the University of St. Andrews, for a talk titled 'Overcoming Obstacles: Counter-Terrorism Police and Community Engagement.' Several activists leafleted the talk outside handing out leaflets that read:
''Do you think it's alright to…trick someone into a romantic relationship so that you can spy on them and their friends?…lie to them and everyone else about your identity in order to do so?…maintain this pretence of love and trust for more than a year? …have a child with your deceived 'partner' and then abandon the child for decades while concealing your identity from them?
Robert Lambert, the man speaking before you seems to think that this is acceptable behaviour for a public servant. He engaged in all of them during his years as an officer with the Metropolitan Police, sent to spy on peaceful environmental and animal rights campaigns. Perhaps this is Lambert's idea of 'community engagement.'
Is it yours?''
As soon as Bob Lambert started his talk two animal rights activists stormed out after shouting and pointing at Bob Lambert phrases like, 'shame!', 'where is your son, Bob?' and 'sex is not community engagement!.' Audience members reported him as startled and mumbled the first section of his speech.
We were thrilled.
We challenge the State's use of womyn's bodies; all animals are equal regardless of gender or species.
Go vegan.
off the pig
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Bob Lambert - Rapist, Deciever and Liberal Shill
12.02.2012 11:51
Here is the contact details for the section of St.Andrews Uni he works at. You can find a good picture of him on the website for identification purposes.
Rape is Terrorism.
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The Centre for the Study of Terrorism and Political Violence (CSTPV)
School of International Relations, University of St. Andrews
New Arts Building, Library Park, The Scores
St Andrews, Fife, KY16 9AX
Scotland, UK
Tel: +44 (0) 1334 462935
Fax: +44(0) 1334 461922
email: gm39@st-andrews.ac.uk
Off the Pig
picture of Robert "Bob" Lambert
12.02.2012 15:39
Secret police spy and rapist Bob Lambert
anon
Generally good but...
12.02.2012 18:11
Anarchist
equal as in afforded equal consideration
13.02.2012 09:53
Obviously all animals aren't "equal" in the sense of being able to speak or needing a right to education, voting rights, etc. Just as men and women aren't "equal" in the sense of having an identical physiology. If you use a little bit of thought you'll realise what is meant is something slightly different:
All animals have the capacity for suffering, pain etc. So all equality means in this instance is that we afford equal consideration to suffering regardless of the species, which isn't really relevant in this context. You see the suffering as bad, and the species membership doesn't really matter. It is just being logically consistent really.
vegan
Errr...
13.02.2012 17:28
Non vegan @
er: Errr...
13.02.2012 19:33
It sounds like *you* haven't really thought it through, and are just buying in to the mainstream ideology where human suffering is elevated, well, just because it is our species rather than for any rational reason. Which is understandable - it does take a certain mindset to follow the logic even when it can make your life more complicated and go against the mainstream view.
If you think it is OK to inflict pain on animals then please explain why in terms that aren't just "because they aren't human". Do you think they can't feel pain?
Would you support all sorts of pain inflicted on non-humans e.g. torture just for fun? If not, why not? Why is it acceptable just to please your taste buds? A vegan diet in this day and age is perfectly healthy and easy to follow so killing animals for food isn't necessary for survival.
vegan
So many problems with your arguements...
13.02.2012 21:25
@
Yawn
Serious question
13.02.2012 22:06
>> It sounds like *you* haven't really thought it through, and are just buying in to the mainstream ideology where human suffering is elevated, well, just because it is our species rather than for any rational reason. Which is understandable - it does take a certain mindset to follow the logic even when it can make your life more complicated and go against the mainstream view.
I've thought it through. I don't think you have.
I think human suffering is and should be elevated way above animal suffering.
To proof my point, consider this:
If there is a runaway train carriage containing 25 cows rolling down a track towards a child on the track You can save those 25 cows but pulling a switch lever, to detour the carriage. Unfortunately, the carriage will go over a cliff killing all the cows.
Do you:
1) Let the child die as the result of the accident?
2) Or, save the human child but cause the death of 25 innocent cows in the process?
Whichever, why?
Would you say killing the 25 cows to save 1 human life is in the wrong, why? is it due to being x25 the number of lives?
anon
Forget Bob Lambert's talk - This Thread is Disrupted
14.02.2012 11:45
Stop Press
re: Serious question
14.02.2012 12:15
Suppose it was your own dog vs David Cameron? I would save my dog every time!
But ultimately it is kind of a side issue, since if you are talking about eating meat, it's not like people will die if you don't eat meat. You prevent animal suffering, and you probably have a more healthy diet as well, and the damage to the environment due to methane, slurry, antibiotics, etc. is gone, so it's a win-win situation.
These hypothetical ethical dilemmas are fun to think about, but they rarely occur in practice.
vegan
Forget bob lambert and undercover cops
15.02.2012 00:28
Lamb bobbert
re: Forget bob lambert and undercover cops
15.02.2012 15:10
But this article is about animal rights activists, so it isn't entirely off topic.
Anyway, let's hope Bob "rapist" Lambert spends a long time behind bars for his crimes. I won't hold my breath though.
vegan
Undercover and Overcover
30.06.2012 15:50
'Terrorist Studies', yes, it's a growing empire within the empire!
I'd recommend this book: 'Secret Affairs', by Mark Curtis: http://markcurtis.info/
To control all aspects of the discourse is an aim. Think of the leftist magazines/organisatiosn run by the CIA during the Cold War, eg. Encounter magazine and the Congress for Cultural Freedom. This ought not to surprise anyone.
Muslim people in the UK do not need friend like this, thank you very much.
Suhayl Saadi
e-mail: saadisuhayl@yahoo.co.uk
Homepage: www.suhaylsaadi.com
latest infos?
08.09.2013 11:42
Or, any more about Lambert's work on the McLibel case, where he apparently co-wrote the famed McLibel leaflet?
Seems he has lots more questions to answer.
j