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UK Indymedia and Twitter

@ukindymedia | 08.01.2012 00:16 | Indymedia | Sheffield

Since Indymedia started over a decade ago, the web has undergone major changes, with many more people and campaigns using their own blogs and sites. Corporate sites such as facebook and twitter have also become players in the exchange of information. Recent convictions of Facebook users have shown that using corporate sites can mean an increased risk for users, and whilst twitter has been more assertive about challenging police requests for user information, it remains another database which the state can potentially mine for information, for example the recent court request to Twitter for Occupy users IP addresses in the US. At Indymedia UK we still strive to find ways of getting out information about actions and campaigns to as wide an audience as possible, whilst bearing in mind the need to maintain anonymity and to reduce the risks to our users. We are currently reviewing our twitter strategy with a view to expanding the user base and getting information out to as wide an audience as posssible.

UK Indymedia
UK Indymedia


How it has been working

Tweets were going out at twitter.com/ukindymedia via indy.im/ukindymedia via the RSS feeds for newswire and feature articles — an automated process. Indy.im is a status.net instance, status.net is a open free software application for distributed micro blogging and also acts as an anonymising bridge to twitter. The advantage of the set-up we had is that it didn't need any additional work by Indymedia admins but the drawback was that it's not always that interesting following bots on Twitter -- you can't interact and hidden articles are tweeted as well. This bot account worked best for those those who are interested in keeping track of everything that is posted to the site, but some users probably felt that it provided way more information than they need.

Over the years several UK Indymedia Twitter accounts have been set up, for example imcuk and indymediauk, however none of these accounts are run by any admins currently involved in the UK Indymedia site, and these accounts have many followers while the more recent 'official' IMC UK admin collective twitter.com/ukindymedia account has some catching up to do in terms of followers.

How we plan to use it

Often with things like this it's easier (and more fun) to give something different a try by doing it rather than by working out a plan in advance, so we are going to try the following approach and see how it goes and then draw lessons from this and work these into guidelines. So these are our ideas...

We have created a seperate account for the bot, @indybot on twitter and @indybot on indy.im, this automatically tweets the newswire, syndicated articles and wiki edits and the main twitter account will be used exclusively by UK Indymedia admins to retweet bot posts, retweet other peoples tweets and to post far better tweets about articles on the site -- eg quoting a key part of an article in a tweet is generally going to be better than one automatically generated. In addition feature article and promoted newswire articles will be automatically tweeted. We envisage that it could also be used to promote breaking news, and to highlight important articles from other sources. So the main account should provide less information more reliably, in the same way that the promoted newswire does now.

This will involve a new role for UK Indymedia admins and we might need to develop some guidelines to go with the responsibility. Ideally we want the guidelines to enable us to meet the needs of as many users as possible, and we invite site users to make suggestions via the comments on this thread or via email to the features list, so that we can try to incorporate them.

How you can use it

You can make your newswire articles result in better automatic tweets by using the Title and Author field — the automatic tweets are constructed from these fields and one or two of the topics if ticked (if there is room), this means that you can put Twitter @usernames and #hashtags in these fields to direct the resulting tweet at a twitter user, or to identify the author or groups twitter account and to enable the post to be found via a hash tag search.

You can also follow @ukindymedia on Twitter (and @ukindymedia on status.net if you have a identi.ca or other status.net account).

You can see our tweets, replies to @ukindymedia and tweets from the accounts we follow via indy.im and at some point we will work out how to display the @ukindymedia tweets on the front page of the UK Indymedia site.

@ukindymedia

Additions

Sheffield Indymedia on Twitter and Status.net

08.01.2012 00:22

You can follow @sheffindymedia here:  https://twitter.com/sheffindymedia

And via the status.net site we use:  https://indy.im/sheffieldindymedia

@sheffindymedia
- Homepage: http://sheffield.indymedia.org.uk/


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This posting has been hidden because it breaches the Indymedia UK (IMC UK) Editorial Guidelines.

IMC UK is an interactive site offering inclusive participation. All postings to the open publishing newswire are the responsibility of the individual authors and not of IMC UK. Although IMC UK volunteers attempt to ensure accuracy of the newswire, they take no responsibility legal or otherwise for the contents of the open publishing site. Mention of external web sites or services is for information purposes only and constitutes neither an endorsement nor a recommendation.

Indymedia discovers Facebook

09.01.2012 09:16

Wow so at last Indymedia has discovered 'new media' and Web 2.0, shame it only five years behind everybody else.

The reason that Indymedia is a shadow of what it once was is because all the young techies who were not still stuck in 2003 were forced out leaving only those still impressed by this Interweb thing.

21st Century


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troll discovers Indymedia

09.01.2012 10:50

"Indymedia discovers facebook"? erm where? how?

"Wow so at last Indymedia has discovered 'new media' and Web 2.0, shame it only five years behind everybody else."

Yes, yes of course Indymedia exists to follow the corporations. The 2.0 Indymedia websites in the uk are doing spectacularly well, wouldn't you say?

"The reason that Indymedia is a shadow of what it once was is because all the young techies who were not still stuck in 2003 were forced out leaving only those still impressed by this Interweb thing."

Are you sure they were young? Bet you can't explain how they were 'forced out' before the mods hide these posts!

underthebridge


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I'll play if they will

09.01.2012 11:37

"Are you sure they were young? Bet you can't explain how they were 'forced out' before the mods hide these posts! "

Well I know they are young since I know them, certainly the attitude of those pushed out by the current clique was much more about the development of the site. I would be happy to provide a full detailed breakdown of the way that certain site mods were forced out, what are the chances that it would be allowed to stay here for any length of time.

21st Century


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@ 21st Century

09.01.2012 12:11

oh, please don't start this one again! Deep breaths all round please.

For those still with their heads or hearts in that conflict, read up about the idea of a dual narrative. It goes that if there's 2 sides in a conflict, there can never be peace and security until both sides recognise the other side's truth as their truth. These 2 truths will likely be contradictory, but things will never move on until that point. If people are fighting for peace and reconciliation in such 'big' situations as the Middle East, South Africa and Ireland, to name but three, I believe you can too.

Whilst what happened with UK IMC and Be the Media was well messy and I'm sure not great for those involved, for us the humble readers, it's turned out well - we get both options of an open newswire and an aggregated site.

Anyway, the topic of the post was about twitter. I'm sure the UK IMC mods have been aware of it for some time - it's hard to get your head round how to use twitter and facebook without implicating the security of followers. I'd like to hear more about what UK IMC people have figured out, because I've not been able to get my head round it for a while.

Thanks

reader


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"oh, please don't start this one again"

09.01.2012 15:17

Why ? Do you hope to sweep it under the carpet and pretend it never happened. The theft of the Indymedia UK URL, the exclusion of a number of trusted IMC mods from the system or the banishment of the UK Indymedia site from the Global IMC community ?

JimDog


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Don't feed the trolls

09.01.2012 16:02

Some very obvious trolling going on here. I hope that the UK mods don't believe that any of this is real. Who will benefit most from the exacerbation of the 'fork'? Yup, the state.

Troll hunter


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reasonable state censorship

09.01.2012 22:14

Classic censorship tactics deployed by indmedia:

1. Hide comments that dont agree with the party line

2. Label commenters as trolls in attempt to discredit them. Ie. the no-platform route

P-A-T-H-E-T-I-C
No grow up

zionist state controlled mi5 informant


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