Disability prejudice at Millwall Football Club
RandomAutie | 06.10.2010 11:32 | Repression | Social Struggles | Technology
"All disabled people should be Systematically drowned one by one in a Big Bucket of Water. What good are they? Fucking ugly, shouting and screaming all the time and a drain on our money. You can't even laugh at them anymore without getting a bad reputation."
This is the welcome from an administrator of Millwall Independent Supporters Association to a young adult with autism.
This is the welcome from an administrator of Millwall Independent Supporters Association to a young adult with autism.
"Yeah just a shame you aint got a Tray under your chin to save people Carpet cleaning bills."
You might imagine that Millwall had enough of a history already, without this kind of reaction to a young adult with autism joining their supporters forum. Yet this young man's value is determined by the stereotype that he may require a carer to escort him into the disabled section ("if so, can you let me be your 'carer' and get me in for free?
you'll only have to put up with me for 5 minutes before the game, once we get in i'll move on and then meet up the following week.") or perhaps might by some kind of artistic savant.
How does one combat this prejudice, other than bringing it into the light of day?
You might imagine that Millwall had enough of a history already, without this kind of reaction to a young adult with autism joining their supporters forum. Yet this young man's value is determined by the stereotype that he may require a carer to escort him into the disabled section ("if so, can you let me be your 'carer' and get me in for free?
you'll only have to put up with me for 5 minutes before the game, once we get in i'll move on and then meet up the following week.") or perhaps might by some kind of artistic savant.
How does one combat this prejudice, other than bringing it into the light of day?
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Racist bully
06.10.2010 11:56
http://z7.invisionfree.com/MISA_Message_Board/index.php?act=Search&CODE=getalluser&mid=1
Millitant
Millwall is a fugly club with a fugly reputation
06.10.2010 12:13
GayAsAYellowDuster
What wankers...
06.10.2010 12:41
Heath
Have they put up a photo or video of Lagboat "the Administrator"?
06.10.2010 16:09
(see http://www.network54.com/Forum/283664/thread/1269362096/1269379787/Erm+any+of+you+biters+realised+lagboat+is+fucking+tee+hee http://www.liverpoolway.co.uk/forum/ff-football-forum/89319-dickhead-millwall-fan-2.html http://members5.boardhost.com/mfcyouth/msg/1285228601.html http://www.youtube.com/verify_age?next_url=http%3A//www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DMHy3YW5aN1c)
STATEMENT FROM MILLWALL AND THE MET
06 Nov 2009
Millwall Football Club and the Metropolitan Police...
Millwall
Millwall Football Club and the Metropolitan Police have issued the following statement...
"On Sunday 25th October 2009 a photograph was published in the News of the World showing a Millwall 'supporter' wearing a Galatasaray shirt with the perpetrator clearly attempting to incite Leeds United fans.
"It has since come to the attention of Millwall FC and the Metropolitan Police that this individual has been wrongly identified as Darren Robertson.
"Mr Robertson and his family have been subjected to an unjustified hate campaign from certain individuals and as such, to prevent this from going
further, we would like to take this opportunity to confirm again that the picture was not Darren Robertson.
"The Metropolitan Police and Millwall FC are continuing their investigation into the true identity of the individual."
Leeds United would appeal to any of their fans who have contacted Mr Robertson to please not do so again.
http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20091106/statement-from-millwall-and-the-met_2247585_1868582
GetLagboat
has a photo of Lagboat the dumb bigot
06.10.2010 16:32
A picture of Lagboat the biigoted dumb shit
Dumb Football: Millwall fan faces lifetime ban after wearing Galatasaray shirt at Leeds game
Millwall have promised to punish the brainless idiot who taunted Leeds United fans by wearing a Galatasaray shirt and making stabbing motions (he wasn’t the only one) on Saturday during their League One encounter at the New Den (the Lions won 2-1).
The incident was an obvious – and disgusting – reference to the tragic death of two Leeds fans who were stabbed to death before their side’s UEFA Cup semi-final against the Turks in 2000.
Millwall chief executive Andy Ambler told the Sun: “Another fan was ejected and arrested for waving a Turkish flag… We didn’t see the man wearing the Galatasaray shirt, but we will try to identify him from CCTV and photographs and if we do, he will be banned.”
http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/fail/8379/dumb-football-millwall-fan-faces-lifetime-ban-after-wearing-galatasaray-shirt-at-leeds-game.html
Who Ate All The Pies
I am the Admin of MISA..
06.10.2010 19:53
There is a fella who posts on the site already who has a disability, is in a Wheelchair and is Ill and he is the worse of them all.
There is nothing malicous in it and it's definately not what any of us really think, different mentality to the rest of you. You could never understand, the person who's joined will be made welcome but if he wants to stick like the rest of us.
I'd just like to point out that the person in the Galatasery Shirt isn't me.
Lagboat
Racial prejudice is a speciality at Millwall
06.10.2010 20:00
"Spade Who Got Raped On Crimewatch, I'm in bits..
(Reference to Crimewatch report on a rape in Wadhurst, Sussex)
Watch the video for his face aftewards, I'm in fucking bits. This never happened, nobody goes round Raping spades at knifepoint in the daylight. I'd put my life on it that it comes out to be bollocks, no witnesses eh"
GayAsAYellowDuster
e-mail: lagboat@aol.co.uk
Homepage: http://z7.invisionfree.com/MISA_Message_Board/index.php?act=Search&CODE=getalluser&mid=1
Information on Lagboat
06.10.2010 20:15
NAME - DEAN WEST
He's a trainee electrician.
LUFCMORLEY
You mean THIS Dean West?
06.10.2010 20:54
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A64704017
The court heard that West had previous convictions for being drunk at a sporting event in 2006, for criminal damage in 2008 and for a pitch invasion on February 22 this year. He was already the subject of a three-year football banning order.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/football-fans-walk-free-after-tube-brawl-1920061.html
It seems he is popular in Leeds too - http://www.network54.com/Forum/283664/message/1286396461/LAGBOAT+EXPOSED!+LAGBOAT+EXPOSED!+LAGBOAT+EXPOSED!+LAGBOAT+EXPOSED
The poor sod has censored the MISA postings, ha ha, http://z7.invisionfree.com/MISA_Message_Board/index.php?showtopic=345&st=60 - he must be having a really enjoyable evening.
GayAsAYellowDuster
e-mail: lagboat@aol.co.uk
More racist thugs and football hooligans
06.10.2010 22:15
http://www.network54.com/Forum/283664/message/1163792423/Re-+BCFC+run+tings+in+W+Yorks
http://www.network54.com/Forum/283664/message/1172335165/Unfortunately---
http://www.network54.com/Forum/283664/thread/1190830212/Message+From+Pyronix
http://www.network54.com/Forum/283664/message/1178608308/That+p*ki+cunt%27s+email+is%2C---
http://www.network54.com/Forum/283664/message/1164058189/Re-+dont+think+birmingham+want+him
http://www.network54.com/Forum/283664/message/1172425616/Re-+Hey+Raymond
http://www.network54.com/Forum/283664/message/1163786958/Re-+BCFC+run+tings+in+W+Yorks
http://www.network54.com/Forum/283664/message/1172395036/Ray-Mandee
Well done Dean, you did a great job today!
Millitant
e-mail: Laggers@hotmail.co.uk
Homepage: http://www.network54.com/Forum/283664/message/1286400764/oh+please
Disability prejudice at Millwall Football Club - absolutely unfound article titl
07.10.2010 00:57
well done indymedia
for those that bothered to click the link you'll see lagboat has indeed written the above offensive comment but for his rant there were numbers that welcomed 'Squonk' (a poster who has yet to prove he's a genuine millwall supporter and not bait for a stunt like this) with open arms.
more importantly the message board has around 50 members, much less than half of which are regular posters, congrats at your dig at the whole club, it's players it's staff and the 11,750 who come to our home games.
On a side note it's an utter disgrace that you are allowing people's personal details to be posted on your site.
Jdeath
Absolute clueless c--ts on here
07.10.2010 02:18
The racism tag against Laggers what a load of bollocks. One of his finest feats I know of was to trick a known National Front sympathiser at Millwall to drink the urine of a jewish friend of his and later the National Front wanker was hounded out of his own club because Laggers let it be known that the nazi twat had inadvertantly drank a jew's piss. His nazi reputation and credibility were destroyed in one swift swig of warm yellow urine. Laggers has also destroyed many an EDL internet warrior so that blows your racist tag out of the window you cluless cowardly c--ts hiding behind the anonymity of the internet.
As far as people using words like spade, yid, paki or kyke so what. I am 53 and I grew up with those words and won't stop using them because some middle class left wing arsehole doesn't like it. They are all part of the great richness of the English language.
And me before you start scurrying around football boards looking for me, I live in Mexico (check my IP address) and I am part jewish (yid or kyke or even no foreskin is perfectly acceptable) and married to a lovely brown skinned mayan indigenous woman so lets have all the racism crap thrown at me as well.
Sanch of Meckiko
You grassing bastards have ruined some good boards
07.10.2010 08:06
I hope your proud of your selves and if he does time it's on your heads
RIP Open Boards
October 7 2010 at 8:58 AM HolteUpper57 (Login avilla57)
Last night i think was the death of the open board sorry to say, this has been a good board over the years but enough is enough respect to all Real SC
http://www.network54.com/Forum/283664/message/1286438317/RIP+Open+Boards
LEEDSSC
Homepage: http://www.network54.com/Forum/283664/
Hhahaha
07.10.2010 08:43
and that dumbarse Sanch thinks he is not racist because of a silly prank with a NF member, he still is a racist creature who has used the "N" word in the past and most of the members on that shite forum are known for racist outbursts and they are useless fucking twats who even took the piss out of 2 dead leeds fans.
WHUFC HAMMER REPPIN BOW E3
LAGBOATS REAL NAME IS DEAN WEST, AGED 22 AND LIVES IN [removed]. HE HAS COMMITED DOZENS OF OFFENSES IN THE PAST INCLUDING GLASSING AN ENGLISH GREAT BRITAIN HOCKEY PLAYER.
Find him and twat him.
xxxxICFxxxx
DavethehammerE3
Should get these cowards like Lagboat out of football
07.10.2010 09:02
August 13, 2010
WEST:ELECTRICIAN ACCUSED OF ATTACKING TWO HOCKEY INTERNATIONALS
A trainee electrician accused of attacking two international hockey players in a nightclub has appeared in court. Dean West, 22, allegedly glassed England and Great Britain forward Martin Jones, 29, in the face leaving him scarred.
http://www.courtnewsuk.co.uk/online_archive/?name=dean+west&place=&courts=5
GayAsAYellowDuster
e-mail: Laggers@hotmail.co.uk
Homepage: http://www.courtnewsuk.co.uk/online_archive/?name=dean+west&place=&courts=5
Overreaction
07.10.2010 09:18
Isn't it obvious this is meant in a satirical way? Just because it isn't done by some Oxbridge-educated comedian doesn't mean you have to take it at face value. In fact, can't one of the aspects of autism be taking things too literally and failing to see irony/satire/parody? Maybe this is the problem here?
I don't think this guy (maybe he is racist or an arsehole, I don't know) really thinks disabled people should be drowned, it's just a self-parody. This kind of fake-insulting humour is very common and is usually a term of endearment.
So, chill out and find a more deserving target to complain about.
@non
Hahhaha
07.10.2010 10:01
His days are numbered, pathetic mug
BETHNAL Green I.C.F
26th November is soon enough
07.10.2010 10:24
Bicknor Road, Maidstone
Michele and Kieran Carey, from Luton, Dean West, of Bicknor Road in Maidstone in Kent, and Dean Maxwell, of Bromley, denied affray but pleaded guilty to threatening behaviour. The Southwark Crown Court judge said the men were in "football fan mode". Three others, Stephen, 51, Liam, 20, and Ryan Carey, 29, also pleaded guilty to threatening behaviour. All five Carey family members are from Third Avenue in Luton. All seven men were sentenced to 60 hours of unpaid work.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/8563274.stm
Millitant
e-mail: lagboat@hotmail.co.uk
Homepage: http://i.imgur.com/A0DkE.png
Is this Deany Lagboat's, or what he aspires to?
07.10.2010 19:05
It is from his YoT profile on OrribleTurnout http://s3.zetaboards.com/OrribleTurnOut/profile/214523/ where he is an active member.
GayAsAYellowDuster
e-mail: Laggers@hotmail.co.uk
Homepage: http://s3.zetaboards.com/OrribleTurnOut/profile/214523/
Sad, sad people.
07.10.2010 22:32
Secondly, "GayAsAYellowDuster" you're a disgrace to mankind. If your feeble excuse for a brain can't work out how hypocritical and idiotic your statements are, I'd just pack it all in and jump off a bridge to be honest. You generalize and stereotype so much it's untrue. I bet if Lagboat or anybody else were to generalize like you do, you'd be first in line to call them a bigot or a racist or any of your other favourite terms.
Thirdly, anything Lagboat or anyone else has said on these forums should be taken with a large pinch of salt. He's a Football Lad on a Football Lad's forum. What do you expect? It's all part of it, the language, the banter (probably more commonly known as "discriminating behavior" to you lot), the piss-taking, etc. You do not understand the culture and you do not belong there.
What more can I say? It's an absolute disgrace someone's personal details have been put up online like this. If any of you think you've done something worthwhile by doing this you need your head examined.
This coming from somebody who doesn't know lagboat at all and doesn't support Millwall. I'm just sick of seeing people with such a lack of common sense and logic causing trouble for no reason.
B
All too common thuggery using matches as meeting places
08.10.2010 11:12
Drunken Cardiff louts
This attached police photograph is a bunch of ignorant wankers that the British Transport Police want to identify from last month's match between Cardiff and Millwall (well, there's a coincidence):
"Now British Transport Police (BTP) are urging the public to help identify 10 men they are hunting in connection with the incident.
Mrs Robinson, of Ystrad Mynach, south Wales, was returning home from Cardiff with husband Peter, 61, and their son.
They were taking the Arriva Trains Penarth to Bargoed service after celebrating their son's fifth birthday on September 25.
Problems began when drunk Cardiff City fans started verbally abusing a woman standing on the platform at Lisvane Station.
When Mrs Robinson asked them to stop they turned their attention to her."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8049690/Police-urge-public-to-identify-abusive-football-fans.html
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/cardiffonline/cardiff-news/2010/10/08/fans-caught-on-train-s-cctv-wanted-by-police-91466-27427512/
Millitant
Glad Someone Has Finally Brought This To Attention.
08.10.2010 15:28
As soon as Lagboat turned up the forum turned into a cesspit of Racism, Football Hooliganism and Bullying. When people tried to talk about Football they were ridiculed and scared off by Lagboat and a few other Thug like contributors. It was a shame nobody seemed like they wanted to stand up to him even when he was posting vile racist jokes and attacking posters with disabilities. I must admit I myself wanted to bring this to attention but didn't think it warranted phoning the Police and wasting their time.
There is a lot from the old forum that I'm sure some of you would be eager to hear about, like a Collection he organised and where the money went and a lot of other Illegal activity. I have saved a bit of it onto my Computer and would happily share it with anyone on here who is Interested. Perhaps they can put it to better use then me.
thegreatergood@hotmail.co.uk
TheGreaterGood
e-mail: thegreatergood@hotmail.com
Well why not incriminate yourself with your own posturing?
08.10.2010 16:03
Dean "Lagboat" West admitting to criminal assault
Dean West said "I was in that footage, punching people to the floor mate." - screenshot of message #264 attached.
(You have to laugh at "Lagboat The Movie" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPIfea1Tyqs)
Self-incriminator
Homepage: http://www.youtube.com/user/MFCLagboat
My response
08.10.2010 18:01
I have had no problems in MISA at all. Since this happened, two members in particular have helped me there, helped me to understand that this is typical of their brand of humour. Even the autism jokes don't offend me, it's something I've put up with over the years. I also didn't need to make a post explaining that I was autistic. It wasn't an agenda and I certainly didn't want to make a debate on disability. the reason I did announce joining in that way was so that people would know that quite often I read things in the way that often is not what was intended, something I am quite used to. I thought it was just being honest. What I've learned is that they don't care if I have a disability, it does not matter, I can join in the forums and talk Millwall as much as I like.
Someone and I have no idea who, posted this topic up. I can see why they did it, maybe they thought they were helping me, but we can see that it did more bad than good. Now it's brought up a lot of bad feeling about different matters, mostly about Lagboat.
I just wanted to say that I've spoken with Lagboat and we've both agreed things could have been different, he's apologised and so have I.
He doesn't seem as bad as all this [other stuff] when you talk to him, so I'm writing to make the point that things are okay with me and MISA and I will stay on the forum because reading all the topics, some of it is hilarious, there are some senses of humour going on there for sure!
Squonk_the_Aspie
ANOTHER THUG MILLWALL CUNT EXPOSED
08.10.2010 20:39
ANOTHER SCUMMY MILLWALL ASSOCIATE OF LAGBOAT, HIS GIRL DOESNT EVEN KNOW WHAT HE GETS UPTO, SCUMMY WANKER.
DEAN MAXWELL
ANOTHER DAY AND ANOTHER MILLWANK CUNT EXPOSED
LUFC-WHUFC-C.PALACE UNION
XXX
MORLEYBOYS
e-mail: millwallfansarefamousforbeingpaedosandnonces@sdgsdg.com
DEAN MAXWELL EXPOSED
08.10.2010 20:52
DEAN MAXWELL
FACEBOOK
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1042611083
THEPOWER
How can thiis be allowed to go on?
08.10.2010 23:00
Does anyone know for sure if what has been posted is true and correct? If the personal details of people are being displayed on your page and are not being removed and the poster banned then there are serious issues with the admin team responsible for the up keep of site.
This latest offering even refers to the fellas girlfriend as "his slag". This is dispicable and is obviously being done by somebody with a personal vendetta against these men. I challenge the admin of this site to check the posters IP address, as I believe that these posts are all coming from the same source!
Come on grow a pair and stop allowing your site to be used as a tool to personally attack people that aren't known to anybody who reads this complete and utter tripe! After all it isn't a crime to suport Millwall yet is it?
Unbelievable!
- Or how to put your name up in lights
09.10.2010 14:44
Dean West's Youtube collection of crowd violence: http://www.youtube.com/user/MFCLagboat
Dean West's Facebook page, with helpful mugshots of all his linked mates profiles: http://en-gb.connect.facebook.com/people/Mfc-Lagboat/100001732175214
Dean West's forum: http://z7.invisionfree.com/MISA_Message_Board/index.php?s=af0c45e30b1c3373f1580895a2258e87&showforum=2 (he is called Nez at the moment)
Dean West's Millwall website: http://www.independentmillwall.com/
http://members5.boardhost.com/mfcyouth/index.html?1286633610
http://members.boardhost.com/Mozzer/msg/1286496418.html
http://www.millwall.vitalfootball.co.uk/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=54259&posts=36
http://www.hof.org.uk/showthread.php?t=13237
http://www.liverpoolway.co.uk/forum/ff-football-forum/89319-dickhead-millwall-fan-2.html
http://www.network54.com/Forum/283664/thread/1286449035/FAO+Of+Admin-Anyone+Who+Has+My+Number
http://www.grimeforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=70878&page=16
http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=369&fid=180&sty=1&act=1&mid=2121162302
http://www.the-exiles.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&p=143668
You would think that somebody convicted of violence following football matches, currently being prosecuted for drunken assault with a broken glass (of England and Great Britain hockey team forward Martin Jones) would be keeping a low profile.
More self-incrimination
e-mail: Sign the Release
Homepage: http://www.youtube.com/user/MFCLagboat
A couple more of Millwall scum EXPOSED
09.10.2010 15:21
Here is Don.
http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/hs353.snc4/41676_774704890_8138_n.jpg
and that nasty piece of work Keith.
http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/hs327.snc4/41500_1761741345_2747_n.jpg
Keith somehow found employment for SOUTHWARK COUNCIL. A known hooligan in the 70's and 80's.
Oh and that poor taig boy called HARRY MIZEN, another hooligan. Known for being in gangs (outside of football). His brother got mistaken for being him and got stabbed to death nicely by some Turk rudeboy.
HARRY MIZEN PHOTOGRAPH
http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/hs442.snc4/48828_628450638_8779_n.jpg
CPFC-LUFC-WHUFC-QPR UNION AGAINST SCUM
That Is Wrong.
09.10.2010 17:44
Mate take that off about him and I'll give you my House number and a picture of me, anything you want.
He don't need that and neither does his family, he isn't a Football Hooligan just a Millwall fan. If you want to "Expose" anyone, just expose me.
Lagboat
The only good Millwall fan is a dead one.
09.10.2010 17:58
It's good exposing these soft derty filthy lowlife creatures from the shandydrinking south.
Ya daft apeth
KINGRADEBEKAISERCHIEFS
Bang out of order!
09.10.2010 18:01
NE
Ian Tomlinson
09.10.2010 18:13
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/34/Ian_Tomlinson_remonstrates_with_police.jpg
Ian Tomlinson's Widow
THE ONLY GOOD MILLWALL FAN IS A DEAD ONE
09.10.2010 19:11
PSG
OH NO! WHO COULD THIS BE???!!!?
09.10.2010 20:05
morleyboys
don't use our club if you have a vendetta
09.10.2010 20:20
and this one made me laugh
Millwall Palaces in a week and 2,
then the eagles can slew you,
Wilf Zaha will bang in atleast 5,
and you guys wont leave Norwood alive.
what i don't like is the user posting this info using c.palace and cpfc as there signature
as far as i know and am concerned a palace supporter has nothing to do with this and considering we are playing them next week don't want there stupid input ruining what is going to be a good local derby..
whatever you have against lagboat is up to you but don't do it in our name
THE TRUE VOICE OF CPFC
p.s if your reading this lag i don't agree with outing that palace fan on your forum. that was wrong but just in jest although no one connected with the fanatics knows who he is and all the cpfc forums are ripping him for it..
but as for this site to out someones details for political stance/views weekend hobbies court appearance is just plain plain wrong, let the old bill do something if they have weight against him and stop trying to troll up a hate mob your views are falling on deaf ears as no one is going to go round this guys house and do something, like everything else that is wrong with this country it's all talk... and no action
THE TRUE VOICE OF CPFC
cpfc
Removal of inappropriate comments on this thread
09.10.2010 22:59
Request to spam the Indymedia lists
Admin
Posted: Oct 9 2010, 10:20 PM
Advanced Member
Group: Admin
Posts: 52
Member No.: 227
Joined: 6-October 10
Can everyone do me a favour and email imc-uk@lists.indymedia.org
Asking them to take a certain thing down.
Don't mention anything on here, what some people don't know won't hurt them.
Millitant
Homepage: http://z7.invisionfree.com/MISA_Message_Board/index.php?showtopic=407
Comments That Need Removing.
10.10.2010 00:28
At the very least.
Lagboat
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