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Flexible New Deal and Jobseekers aged 60 and over

Keith Parkins | 16.08.2010 15:40 | Repression | Social Struggles | Workers' Movements

Flexible New Deal has replaced New Deal. It is mandatory for Jobseekers, but those aged 60+, that is have reached the age for Pension Credits, have a choice. Why therefore are they being threatened with sanctions, ie loss of benefits, if they refuse to participate?

Flexible New Deal has or is in the process of replacing New Deal. It is mandatory for all Jobseekers (there are exemptions which I will come to). If you refuse to attend you will be sanctioned, that is your Job Seekers Allowance will be stopped from a minimum of 2 weeks up to 6 months.

It is well documented that New Deal is a complete and utter failure, widespread bullying, lack of resources, abuse of Jobseekers etc. It does nothing for the Jobseekers who attend and usually they are worse off than left to their own resources. The only beneficiaries are the training providers, such as CDG, A4E, Working Links, for who New Deal is a massive gravy train.

 http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=%22Careers+Development+Group%22+CDG+site%3Awww.indymedia.org.uk&btnG=Search&meta=

Flexible New Deal appears to be little better. The main difference from New Deal is the compulsory work element, that is you have to go and work for an employer for nothing, in other words enforced slave labour which is a breach of International Labour Treaties.

The Coalition Government is looking to make minimum 25% cuts within DWP. The obvious programmes to cut is Flexible New Deal and New Deal.

At Farnborough Job Centre Jobseekers are being forced to attend CDG in Basingstoke for a fifth time! Why are Jobseekers being forced to attend again and again and again this scam training provider? An appalling waste of public money.

I have filed a Freedom of Information request with Farnborough Job Centre asking what is the success rate. This was filed last year. I am still awaiting a reply.

If these courses are so good, why are they mandatory? If they helped job prospects, there would be a waiting list.

Unfortunately it is mandatory. For one group though it is not mandatory. If you have reached the age of 60, or to be more precise the age to which you are entitled to Pension Credits (currently 60 but due to rise to 65 by 2020) you have a choice, you do not have to attend, you have a choice and if you choose to exercise that choice you will not be sanctioned, ie there will be no loss of benefits.

Leaflet Flexible New Deal FND1 10/09 clearly states on page 6 (it is even flagged as important!):

Important

If you've reached the age when you can get Pension Credit before New Deal is due to start, your benefit won't be affected if

- you choose not to take part, or

- you choose to take part and then leave before Flexible New Deal is finished.

There is no wriggle room, it is not open to interpretation, it clearly states once the age of 60 is reached, ie when eligible for Pension Credits (a sidebar defines the age), then one has a choice whether or not to participate and there will be no penalty, no sanctions, no loss of benefits, if one chooses to not participate or withdraws from the scheme. It is laid down in black and white. It could not be clearer.

This is logical as when you reach the age of 60 you can sign off and claim Pension Credits. No more hassle from Job Centre, no degrading and humiliating trip to the Job Centre. You can though if you choose, continue to sign. Therefore it would be illogical to say Flexible New Deal was mandatory once the age of 60 was reached as you can simply sign off and change to Pension Credits.

Why therefore then is Guildford Job Centre forcing Jobseekers to attend a training provider, telling them it is mandatory and they will be sanctioned, ie benefits stopped, if they refuse to attend? Guildford Job Centre are acting contrary to the leaflet Flexible New Deal FND1, which they themselves are issuing!

It is inexcusable that Guildford Job Centre is doing this. If Jobseekers wish to attend, that is their choice, but if they are being forced to attend against their will with the threat of sanctions, this is an appalling waste of public funds, tantamount to fraud on the public purse. The only beneficiaries are the training providers. A matter for investigation by the National Audit Office.

Guildford Job Centre has been asked to produce relevant legislation to support what they are doing. They have refused. Presumably because they have not a leg to stand on. They have also refused to produce an Ofsted report on their training providers. Could this be because they got a bad report? Refused to provide information on the success rate, ie numbers gaining full time employment lasting 6 months or more. No doubt because poor. Were unable to say what advantage Jobseekers would gain by attending. To a Jobseeker with over 40 years experience of using computers they said he would receive IT training!

One Jobseeker was handed a superseded FND1 that had been so badly photocopied that it was illegible!

Guildford Job Centre are aware there is a problem as complaints have been filed. The problem is probably far more widespread than Guildford Job Centre. If it is, then widespread abuse is taking place. Abuse that translates as misappropriation of public funds.

I will be filing a Freedom of Information request with Guildford Job Centre to try to obtain the information they are refusing to divulge.

Job Centres are keen to push Jobseekers onto Pension Credits as it helps to massage the jobless figures. About the only advantage of continuing to sign on is that your are entitled to a New Deal Rail Card. It lasts 3 months and gives half price travel by train. Take two passport-sized pictures to the Job Centre and ask for the form for the New Deal Rail Card.

Camberley Job Centre is refusing to issue a New Deal Rail Card, falsely claiming it does not exist. This means that Jobseekers attending a Flexible New Deal training provider are claiming expenses for full rail fare not half rail fare. Yet further example of how Job Centres are engaging in misinformation, maladministration and wasting public money.

Jobseekers in the latest Orwellian newspeak are now referred to as customers. Customer implies choice. Jobseekers are nonpersons who are denied choice, everything is mandatory. If they try to exercise choice, they are sanctioned.

In the Class War that is currently being waged Jobseekers are to be starved into work.

Pension Credits (more information)

0800 99 1234
 http://www.thepensionservice.org.uk

website

 http://www.flexible-new-deal.co.uk/

Also see

New Deal boot camps
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/11/386689.html?c=on

CDG crisis deepens
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/12/388044.html?c=on

Scam training course for the unemployed
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/12/388504.html

Harassment at CDG continues
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2008/01/390153.html

CDG - the lying continues
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/regions/sheffield/2008/03/394982.html?c=on

Bloggers vs A4e - Poverty Pimps Attempt Internet Censorship
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2009/07/435064.html?c=on

New Deal training fraud
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2009/10/439070.html?c=on

New Deal is bad for your health
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2009/10/440464.html?c=on

Keith Parkins
- Homepage: http://www.flexible-new-deal.co.uk/

Comments

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correction FND1

17.08.2010 15:11

Should read (I originally wrote New Deal when should have been Fexible New Deal):

Leaflet Flexible New Deal FND1 10/09 clearly states on page 6 (it is even flagged as important!):

Important

If you've reached the age when you can get Pension Credit before Flexible New Deal is due to start, your benefit won't be affected if

- you choose not to take part, or

- you choose to take part and then leave before Flexible New Deal is finished.


Keith


other notes

18.08.2010 10:57

The 'providers' (sic) seem to be putting late signers on sanctions - they have their own staff working in the job centres. Salvation Army are getting in on the act and getting migrant workers policing / security jobs where they have to work for nothing for a 4 week trial. They are still training for security licences though the sector is full (due to training up loads of security guards ). The same religous-fascists are doing offensive motivational talks which is passed off as 'training' in their terms ( Christian workhouses here we come ). No other training is available except for 'soft ( i.e. non )skills' ( and some places have basic english and maths ) A4E appear to be taking over a lot of contracts next year when other providers run out. The same low paid jobs have been opn the board at this providers building ( where I am writing ) for the last 8 months....curious. Getting a job through these boards and screening processes leads to a lower wage than geting the same job through iother channels. The provider also turned away people based on race for certain of these positions ( parking attendant was the one particular example I was given - Africans only - curious what they are up to. others went for jobs that did not exist and were moved to 'another provider' in the same building for some 'training'. This appeared to be tied into a potential contract with enterprise - a PFI provider working with councils. No job appeared but their benefits did get stopped ( as did most when being pushed into 'volunteering' work ( known as internships amongst the middle classes ). many people had already being volunteering and fucked over by the myriad of middle class job creation charity schemes ( homelessness/yoof/environment/culture-race) that exist as we have no manufacturing base and a massive service economy. Oh the staff also have targets and get bonuses for pushing people into the crap jobs ( for which migrants are an easy target ). Some people are sent here who are obviously too ill to work and some are around retirement age. Destroy the sq mile or suffer....

poverty pimps


view of New Deal advisor

18.08.2010 16:41

I talked with a specialist New Deal Advisor at a Job Centre today (not Guildford), I showed her the relevant part of FND1 and asked her what it meant. She read it and said, when you reach the age of Pension Credits, ie 60, you have a choice, you can choose to participate or leave part way through and your benefits will not be affected.

I also asked were New Deal travel cards still being issued. She said yes.

Keith


re:BE AWARE PENSION CREDIT

24.10.2012 12:13

WELL THIS BROUGHT A FEW SURPRISES TO ME ! I THOUGHT OR WAS LED TO BELIEVE THAT A PART TIME POSITION AND PENSION CREDIT MONEY ADJUSTMENTS THAT I COULD FUNCTION AS A MEMBER OF SOCIETY, AND HOLD MY HEAD UP WHILE STILL ATTEMPTING TO FIND WORK , WELL ONE PHONE CALL TO THE PENSION SERVICE ANSWERED THAT ONE ! (QUOTE ;YES I COULD TAKE THE JOB, BUT EVERYTHING WOULD BE WITHDRAWN AND I WOULD THEN BECOME RESPONSIBLE FOR THE RENT , COUNCIL TAX , ETC , BEARING IN MIND WE ARE ONLY TALKING ABOUT £90 A WEEK HERE .THE BOTTOM LINE IS KEEP ON TRYING TOO FIND THAT ELUSIVE POSITION THAT COVERS WHAT HAVE TO PAY OUT , OTHERWISE STAY WHERE YOU ARE ,I FEEL TRAPPED WITH NO WAY FORWARD , I AM A ENGINEER WHO WAS WORKING AS A CONTRACTOR BUT THE FIRST TO FALL IN A RECESSION ARE GUYS LIKE ME , AS WE ARE NOT WANTED IN THE WORKFORCE AS I HAVE FINDING OUT AS THE MONTHS GO BY

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