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English Defence League London Division in support of the UAF against the BNP

Anon London | 07.08.2010 21:18 | Anti-racism | Repression | Social Struggles | South Coast | World

The English Defence League are an Islamophobic organisation with Divisions all over the UK with links to racist groups such Blood and Honour, Combat 18, BNP and UKIP etc. Their biggest foes are Unite Against Fascism [UAF] who are a branch of the Socialist worker Party [SWP]. The English Defence League London Division have however defended the UAF's officer Martin Smith against the BNP.



The party leader of the racist British National Party is Nick Griffin for anyone who doesn't know. The BNP are a party who are racist and against immigaration. They have made Islamophobic leaflets. When Nick Griffin spoke on BBC's Question Time the UAF and other anti racist groups protested outside the BBC and some fought their way in while others tried to push the police out of the way to get into the studios. Flares and smoke grenades were let off.

Martin Smith of the anti racist group the UAF will be appearing in court in early September [possibly the 8th] on a serious charge in relation to the protest.

The English Defence League London Division have said this week via their facebook page: "Support UAF officer in court after BBC demo against BNP leader. I think I would rather support Martin Smith on this one".

Some of the replies from EDL fans on the EDL London facebook show what we suspected all along ...some of the English Defence League football hooligans think that the UAF is a football team / firm and they have written which teams they would rather support instead ie Millwall, West Ham etc. One of them, however, wrote "I would rather support Goebbals".


The English Defence League will be protesting against "the Islamification of Britain" in Bradford on the 28th August. The English Defence League London Division will be going too. Which team are you supporting we ask them? The rest of the EDL and the many racists that are linked to them or the UAF who will be going up to Bradford too?

Anon London

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07.08.2010 21:25

EDL London seem to be explicitly anti-BNP out of most/all EDL Divisions. Which means fuck all in a lot of ways if they support and back the EDL nationally in promoting a very reactionary and xenophobic politics.

aders


WTF is this?

08.08.2010 02:18

Im sorry, its great and all that you are monitoring the EDL and willing to publicise issues within the organisation. But... if this bizzare article is all you can come up with then perhaps you should stick to some other hobbies, what ever they may be.

I dont mean to offend you but this was dribble.

Antifash


that does not mean they support the uaf

08.08.2010 06:18

the comment does mean they support the uaf, it basically means that they can`t stand griffin because he`s a pratt

chaos


the EDL will join the UAF

08.08.2010 08:53

we look forward to EDL finally seeing common sense and joining the ranks of the UAF

weyman bennett


the edl will join the uaf

08.08.2010 09:07

eventually the edl will come on board, they know the uaf are right.

weyman bennett


EDL say "NO SURRENDER TO THE UAF!"

08.08.2010 19:34

Just checked the EDL London Facebook (8/8/10, 8:30pm) and their motto is (stressing this is an "official" motto or slogan on the EDL London Facebook page, not a comment posted by an ordinary member) "EDL NO SURRENDER TO THE UAF!!!!!!!!"

This article is a pack of lies, but even if a few EDL might be getting cold feet about the BNP, that hasn't stopped them agitating for a group that was founded by BNP activists.

Predictably the EDL London group contains known Nazis like Wildkunt (sic) Ken Jacks (yes, that's actually what he calls himself) - he's the person giving the Nazi salute in this video...

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZCDm-Ex7tE

Bobsleigh


EDL Racists say "F**K the N*****S"

08.08.2010 19:42

EDL Nazi Wayne Baldwin...
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlTJOefkzdQ

EDL - Casuals United promote Nazi music...
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1d0X7oqLoU

EDL Racists say "F**K the N*****S"...
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JE5xKQkhs8

EDL supporter abused 14 year old girl...
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quGf36Z3qHc

EDL Sieg Heiling AGAIN...
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awRKR-RP1DA

EDL Supporters with Nazis T-shirts & Tattoos...
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN9j7Sz5Ctc

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message to antifa with the video links

08.08.2010 19:57

that nonce with the tattoos on his face has never been on any edl demos, that`s a fact,

verita


It's true. Here is the screenshot of the EDL London Division page.

08.08.2010 20:04


It's true. Here is the screenshot taken from the English Defence League London Division facebook page. Nice try to the deluded and brainwashed EDL idiot who has tried to claim that it is a "pack of lies". It's here for all to see.

anon


Stroll on "Verita"

09.08.2010 10:37

Antifa Research


It's true. EDL London say "No Surrender to the UAF"

09.08.2010 10:48


EDL have been pretending they're not linked to the BNP since day 1

If EDL London were really supporting UAF's Martin Smith then the front-end of EDL London Facebook wouldn't be saying "No Surrender to the UAF" (see screen-shot below)...

And (quoting the screen-shot above) the EDL comments wouldn't be saying stuff like "I'd rather support bloody Goebbels", "Support UAF officer. No!" and describing Martin Smith as a "cunt"

QED

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Dear antifa...the open EDL London Division page is adminned by Joel Titus.

09.08.2010 20:05

Do your own research more thoroughly please Antifa..especially when you accuse other activists of "getting their facts wrong" or of not being "real" or "credible".
Antifa are not the great heroes that you make yourselvs out to be either... letters against the IFE "signed by half of Bangladeshi London" who didn't even get asked whether their names could be used.

The MDL were banished from a London Antiracist event when it is THEY who are being targeted by the EDL.

There are two EDL London Division facebook pages. One is a "request to join" private group page and the other an open page. Joel Titus admins the open page. He is mixed race and his girlfriend Naima is a Muslim from Pakistan. He is opposed to the BNP and is a member of the EDL. There are black and Asian people in the EDL.

Antifa DO YOUR RESEARCH before you make any more comments.


Laslty...one of Antifa writes the Harry's Place blog.

anon


Joe Cardiff and Charlie Flowers are very well known EDL...as is JOEL TITUS.

09.08.2010 20:14

How can Antifa say that Charlie Flowers and Joe Cardiff are not EDL?! They are among the most well know of the EDL. Charlie flowers has been pictured on EDL demos standing right next to Guramit Singh with a megaphone. He has been pictured on nights out with Joel Titus and other EDL. [He is not as Islamophobic as some EDL and has acted as a peacemaker in a number of cases]. Joe Cardiff is a high up EDL member level with Kelway and Carrol.

Antifa you are behaving like muppets on this one.

I suppose you will argue that Charlie flowers, Joe Cardiff and Guramit Singh are not real and that Guramit Singh is not in the EDL "because he is Asian".

anon


Joel Titus BNP friends

10.08.2010 10:05

To reply to Anon, I used the name "Antifa Research" to indicate affiliation to the global Antifa movement NOT to indicate membership of any specific group. As for doing my research, I did, but you still havn't - as proven by the fact that Joel Titus also set-up and administers the EnglishDefenceYouth channel on You Tube, where (10 Aug 2010) his Friends list includes one Nazi with a Swastika profile Icon - WestYorksLad, and fanatical BNP activists like Safcman4, StBritish, MarmiteMan4, WazzockUK

The Blood and Honour merchandising op that AFA closed down in Carnaby St was run by a Jewish businessman called Andrew St John - unfortunately there always have been collaborators, but why a mixed-race person like Joel Titus allows fanatical racists like Safcman4 on his Friends list is anyone's guess - low intelligence, political inexperience, and a pathetic desire to fit-in with "tough" guys (pissed-up thugs) may have something to do with it.

As for gay EDL, if you don't know about Ernst Rohm and Nicky Crane etc then learn to use Wikipedia. As for Guramit Singh, yes he's Asian and yes he was also filmed by The Sun newspaper saying "I fucking hate Pakis", and on Facebook he's linked to a page promoting BNP wanker Richard Barnbrook. Next.....

Antifa Reseach


Dear Antifa Research

10.08.2010 14:55

You don't know who Joe Cardiff, Charlie flowers etc are?!!! Ha ha ha! Antifa ...has beens.

I know Joel Titus PERSONALLY never mind what's on his facebook.........

FUCK the EDL

FUCK the UAF

FUCK Antifa and the AFA

FUCK B &H

Nothing real is being done to stop the racists and the neo Nazis by any of you. Blood and Honour are still up and running..they are going to EDL demos and doing well enough.

anon


To Antifa research

10.08.2010 15:50

I think you've missed the point about the posts on here. The person who has corrected you also has a point. Antifa in London hold benefit gigs and do precious little else. They do nothing to stop racism. Antifa in London bully other anti racist campaigners, including and espeicalliy the people AFFECTED by racism Asians and Black people. London Antifa have sided with the EDL. The Unity Platform Against Racism and Fascism "press statement" with all the faked signatures on it was an absolute disgrace and has lost you any credibility that you might have had.

The EDL is run by the British Armed Forces. Wake up. The EDL are not the usual run of the mill racists. The are the ARMY. Nearly all of the EDL stewards are from the MOD. Some are serving soldiers, others are ex soldiers. A significant number of the EDL are in the Armed Forces. It's getting pointless to keep on exposing the racists in the EDL to prove that they are a racist organisation...something that the greedy UAF and SWP Weymann Bennet feeds off of.

The EDL = BRITISH ARMY.

The British military are running the EDL. Some are racist, some are not. We are embroiled in illegal wars against Muslim countries. The EDL / British MOD are trying to start a civil war in this countrey with Muslims. They are inciting Muslims all over Britian. The result if they succed? Control orders..ASBOS, movement and association restrictions, prison...etc and so on.

anon


EDL London = friends with Welsh Nazi Ken Jacks

10.08.2010 17:44

If EDL London and Joel Titus are anti-BNP, wtfuck is Joel Titus friends with BNP on his EnglishDefenceYouth You Tube channel, and wtf is the EDL London Facebook friends with known Nazis like Ken Jacks?

Here's the proof...

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz5fyoMVtIY

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