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Chomsky& Znet's proposal for a new International - Because we feel the need for

postman | 10.04.2010 16:37 | Globalisation | Social Struggles | Workers' Movements | World

An alternative proposal to Chavez's "5th international"

Because we feel the need for a global and democratically decided strategy to make the banks and investors pay for their crisis.

Because the resistance up to date is too divided, not coordinated and driven by particular interests to be as efficient as it could be.

Because we don't want to let Chavez - nor anyone - take the leadership of an International.

Because the global justice movement can decide it's own strategy democratically and because World Social Forums cannot play this role as some organizations want them to stay informal spaces for discussion.

Because "to do something" is not enough and because something is more effective when it is done in connection/complementarity with other things.

Because a hundred strikes/or other direct actions in one month are less powerful than a hundred made the same day.

Because different projects, irregular actions and particular movements should be offered the possibility to see themselves as part of the same process, and because they need a tool to collectively and democratically create this process.

Because mutual aid can be organized at an international level

Because we've made the experience that no one is strong enough to win on its own. " yet what force on earth is weakest than the feeble strength of one ? " but the International makes us strong !

Because genuine revolution in one single country is not possible

Because many people try to make things happen at their own level but don't involve into an organization as they think no particular movement would be capable of bringing about real change.

Because we need a tool to organize a-national struggles.

Give this proposal a chance

Make it heard !

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10.04.2010 18:05

Following the link brings the following text


We, the undersigned, endorse the idea of a new International and urge that its creation include assessing, refining, augmenting, and then implementing as many of the following points as the International’s participants themselves, after due deliberation, decide mutually agreeable:

1. A new International should be primarily concerned (at least) with:

* economic production, consumption, and allocation, including class relations
* kinship nurturance, socialization, house keeping, and procreation, including gender, sexuality, and age
* cultural community relations including race, nationality, and religion
* politics including relations of law and legislation
* international relations including matters of mutual aid, exchange, and immigration
* ecology including relations with the natural environment and other species

And that the new International should address these concerns without elevating any one focus above the rest, since (a) all will critically affect the character of a new world, (b) unaddressed each could subvert efforts to reach a new world, and (c) the constituencies most affected by each would be intensely alienated if their prime concerns were relegated to secondary importance.

2. Our vision for a Participatory Socialist future should (at least) include that:

* economic production, consumption, and allocation be classless - which includes equitable access for all to quality education, health care, food, water, sanitation, housing, meaningful and dignified work, and the instruments and conditions for personal fulfillment
* gender/kinship, sexual, and family relations not privilege by age, sexual preference, or gender any one group above others - which includes ending all forms of oppression of women while providing day care, recreation, health care, etc.

* culture and community relations among races, ethnic groups, religions, and other cultural communities protect the rights and identity of each community up to equally respecting those of all other communities - which includes an end to racist, ethnocentric, and otherwise bigoted structures while simultaneously securing the prosperity and rights of indigenous people
* political decision making, adjudication of disputes, and implementation of shared programs deliver “people’s power” in ways that do not elevate any one sector or constituency above others - which includes participation and justice for all
* international trade, communication, and other interactions attain peace and justice while dismantling all vestiges of colonialism and imperialism - which includes canceling the debt of nations of the global south and reconstructing international norms and relations to move toward an equitable and just community of equally endowed nations
* ecological choices not only be sustainable, but care for the environment in accord with our highest aspirations for ourselves and our world - which includes climate justice and energy innovation

3. The guiding values and principles informing internal strategic and programmatic deliberations of an International highlight at least the following values which includes implementing whatever structural steps prove essential to organizationally embody the values as well as possible in the present:

* solidarity, to help align worldwide movements and projects into mutual aid and collective benefit
* diversity, to spur creative innovation, respect dissent, and recognize that minority views thought to be crazy today can lead to what is brilliant tomorrow
* equity, to seek wealth and income fairness
* peace with justice, to realize international fairness and fulfillment
* ecological sustainability and wisdom, to seek human survival and interconnection
* “democracy” or perhaps even a more inspiring conception of “people’s power,” “participatory democracy,” or “self management,” to foster participation and equitable influence for all

4. That a new International be the greatest sum of all its parts, including rejecting confining itself to a single line to capture all views in one narrow pattern. To achieve this the new International should:

* include and celebrate “currents” to serve as vehicles for contending views, help ward off sectarianism, and aid constant growth

* establish that currents should respect the intentions of other currents, assume that differences over policy are about substance and not motive, and pursue substantive debate as a serious part of the whole project

* afford each current means to openly engage with all other currents to try to advance new insights bearing on policy and program.

* guarantee that as long as any particular current accepts the basic tenets of the International and operates in accord with its norms and methods, its minority positions would be given space not only to argue, but, if they don’t prevail, to continue developing their views to establish their merit or discover their inadequacies

5. Members of the new International would be political parties, movements, organizations, or even projects, where:

* members, employees, staff, etc., of each new International member organization would in turn gain membership in the International

* individuals who want to be members of the International but have no member group that they belong too, would have to join one

* every member group would have its own agenda for its separate operations which would be inviolable

* at the same time, each member group would be strongly urged to make its own operations consistent with the norms, practices, and agendas of the International,establishing solidarity but also autonomy.

* member groups would have a wide range of sizes - but since the International’s decisions would not bind groups other than regarding the collective International agenda, a good way to arrive at decisions might be serious discussion and exploration, followed by polls of the whole International membership to see peoples’ leanings, followed by refinements of proposals to seek greater support and to allow dissidents to make their case, culminating in final votes of the membership

6. Programmatically, of course what a new International chooses to do will be contextual and a product of its members desires, but, for example:

* a new International might call for international events and days of dissent, for support campaigns for existing struggles by member organizations, and for support of member organizations against repression, as well as undertake widespread debates and campaigns to advance related understanding and mutual knowledge...

* more ambitiously, an International might also undertake, for example, a massive international focus on immigration, on ending a war, on shortening the work week worldwide, and/or on averting climatic catastrophe, among other possibilities. It might prepare materials, undertake education, pursue actions, carry out boycotts, support local endeavors, etc.

* general program would be up to member organizations to decide how to relate to, yet there would be considerable collective momentum for each member organization to participate and contribute as best it could in collective campaigns and projects since clearly one reason to have an International is to help organizations, movements, and projects worldwide escape single-issue loneliness by becoming part of a larger process encompassing diverse focuses and united by agreements to implement various shared endeavors.


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I think this is a great idea. Organisations need to be clear about how they will be organised or they will tend to end up controlled by a clique like the IEMO. Never heard of them? Exactly. How can individuals get involved but maintain our annonimity?

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People create their own economies

10.04.2010 19:10

People create their own economies where and when they're needed. It seems the trick is to create a situation to match :-)

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The gatekeepers: Foundations fund phony 'left' media

11.04.2010 00:45

The gatekeepers: Foundations fund phony 'left' media

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Interesting, even better if it was a constitution ensuring Direct democracy& uni

12.04.2010 04:22

universal rights.
As far as Znet & Chomsky gatekeeping BS, FFS where does Icke & Jones or that Libertarian president get alot of their $$ from?sometimes the extreme right wing maybe??
In fact its been proven Ickes a fruitloop, Jones has links to Nazi styled Liberty Lobby& the great truth president candidate shook hands openly in front of cameras with leading KKK organisers!!
Please name any large media group without links to your timeboggling graph?.
Does alex jones work for you tube & Murdochcon?,
why dont you investigate that " truthseeker", please.

Lets be honest alex Jones,chomsky& Libertarian presidents make mistakes occassionally, we are all human, lets move onwards!!

Chomskys avoidance of 911 is annoying, but he does now talk of the trilateral commission etc, word is he has been threatened personally by right wing, the man is vvvelderly, so unsuprising iif he got scared, though a shame after all good he has done

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