If the cold blooded murder of a dozen innocents is not enough for these blood-crazed psychopaths, they then open their 30mm helicopter canon on people who come to tend to a survivor. And make no mistake - this is no isolated incident. This kind of crap must go on ever damned day.

They blew up bombs on buses and flew planes into buildings to kill civilians.
They should also be brought to account

The leader of the Hands Off Iran group Yassamine Mather works for a British university research department that designs much of the BAe technology used in Apache helicopters and other sophisticated killing machines.

Below is a list of “ academic related staff” at the Aerospace Engineering department at Glasgow University as listed on the department’s website on 14 Nov . 2007

Academic Related Staff
Mr R.Gilmour
Mrs. Y. Mather
Mr. K. Stevenson
Mrs C. Coton



On 4 Dec ,2007 ,the day after the Study War No More Group published its report on BAe funding of universities, Y. Mather’s name had been removed from the list. That remains the case :Mather’s name does not feature on the department’s website list of staff members :
 http://www.gla.ac.uk/departments/aerospace/staff/academicstaff/

You can read what the Study War No More report said about Glasgow
University’s Aerospace Dept’s connection to BAe here.

_ http://www.studywarnomore.org.uk/data/glasgow.html_


HOPI supporters deny that Mather works where she does and give the name of Prof Peter Gawthrop ,a CND member , as a referee for Yassamine Mather saying that Mather’s work at Glasgow is confined to his Systems and Control Centre .

Gawthrop is in fact one of Britain's leading experts in the technology that goes into Apache’s design .

Look under Labs below listed in Yassamine Mather's Aerospace Engineering Dept's profile . Y Mather has never had anything to do with miltary related projects according to her defenders. Why then do westlandaugusta ,bae and other military contractors pay the bills for the research at the Aerospace Dept where she works and for Gawthrop's Systems and Control centre ?
Yassamine Mather
Departments of Aerospace Engineering
and Mechanical Engineering
James Watt (South) Building
University of Glasgow
Glasgow - G12 8QQ
E-Mail:  y.mather@eng.gla.ac.uk
Tel: +44(0)141 330 4316
Fax: +44(0)141 330 4343
Yassamine Mather is Deputy Editor of the academic journal
Critique , published by Taylor and Francis

Research Interests
Bond Graphs
Bond-graphs provide a high-level graphical method to model dynamical systems
Projects
a. Physical-model-based control
Link to Project
b. Hybrid testing using substructuring
Link to Project
c. Software tools
tutorial on bond graph
Labs :
Helicopter- 3D Hover
Real Time control- RTAI Tutorial
Inverted Pendulum
Rotary Plant


Introduction to Unix
Aerospace Design4
Webinstructions for Design4





HOPI’s spokesperson in Ireland ,Anne McShane of the Communist Party of Great Britain , has said that Mather’s work at Glasgow University is confined to the Systems and Control Centre there, and has absolutely nothing to do with BAe .In fact Prof Gawthrop’s Systems and control Centre is heavily involved – industrially linked - with BAE and other arms manufacturers see:
 http://www.mech.gla.ac.uk/Research/Control/Introduction.html
Its webpage lists the Centre's links thus:

Current industrial links
British Aerospace
BICC
Daimler-Benz (Berlin)
Eurotherm Controls
International Atomic Energy Agency
Westland Helicopters




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Even from a moral viewpoint I find it hard to see how anyone could associate themselves with the work of BAe . But when the leader of a group which claims to be anti-war has such connections , and when people say that it is either of no importance , or else deny those connections , there is something very strange going on indeed.
Here’s a sample of the sort of denial I’m talking about . It comes from HOPI’s Anne McShane in response to my publicizing of Mather's links to the arms industry .

 http://www.ireland.indymedia.org/article/84857?comment_order=asc

"Dealing with Tom Eile's attempted smear campaign
by Anne - HOPI Mon Nov 05, 2007 15:20

Tom Eile has made some serious allegations about Yassamine Mather, one of our speakers on Saturday. He and some others have rather pathetically banded together to throw abuse against a campaign that they cannot attack politically. They mock the fact that Yassamine does not live in Iran, without stopping to consider why it would not be wise for such an opponent of the regime to go back there. Obviously they want to believe that the Iranian people are not repressed, or that leading trade unionists and activists are not in prison. In many repects the allegations that are being made are not worth answering. And to my mind the very fact that people like Tom Eile can try to besmirch the name of a leading left-wing Iranian dissident is truly shameful. He is doing the wok of the Iranian state and the US state for them.

But to deal with the issue of Yassamine Mather's so-called connections with BAE I state as follows:

Everyone in Glasgow University knows that Yassamine Mather has never been involved in BAE research contracts/grants . She has never undertaken research or contract work that involves the defence industry .
Of course it should be added that BAE is unlikely to accept someone born in Tehran
known as a leftist ativist as investigator or collaborator at any level (however junior) in one of their research contracts/programs .
Yassamine Mather's main research work at Glasgow university is with the Centre for the study of Socialist theory and Movements and the journal Critique of which she is deputy editor.

The Engineering research group she has any association with is Systems and Control group , the main well known academic in that group Professor Peter Gawthrop who is a member of CND , an anti war activist ( he spoke at anti war meeting, organised by Mike Gonzalez in Glasgow University exposing US claims that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction) This group is not involved in any BAE contracts and their research involves the following areas:
Intermittent Control
Applications to Human Motion Control
Applications to Mechatronics
System Identification
Bond Graphs
details in :
 http://www.gla.ac.uk/faculties/engineering/aeromech/res...trol/

I hope that settles matters - well at least for those who want to listen.

Anne "
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The Hands Off the People of Iran group needs to be investigated and challenged on their leader’s links to the arms trade. BAe has a long history of corruption and of infiltrating the anti war movement .

Not sure what point you are trying to make, seeing as this event was nothing to do with terrorists - other than the ones in the helicopter, of course.

And people who blow up buses or fly planes into buildings are brought to account, assuming they weren't killed in the process.

Maybe you feel this is so indefensible that you have to come up with some random fact as a misdirection? Just face it, this shows the US military being grade A fuckwits, and it's highly unlikely to be an isolated incident.

man, the US War Machine is so cool, it can give any man a hard-on!

"man, the US War Machine is so cool, it can give any man a hard-on! "

But your not a man, how would you know?