This really shouldn't be all that hard to understand. We are multidimensional, we are each incolved with a number of issues, and there is NO GOOD REASON to suppose that we will always be on the same side. In other words, just because we are allies working together on issue A doesn't mean that some days we might not find ourselves on opposite sides over issue B.

This is the reality. Trying to pretend that it can't be so is self delusion. I know, would be nice, would simplify matters greatly. But it's not real.

Good grief --- what do you think the members of the butchers union do for a living? So --- that means you can work with them as long as what you are trying to work together about is labor issues, the things that affect us as working people. But you can't expect them to be helping you on the days when you are wearing your militant vegetarianism hat.

Similarly with other causes. You can have no (reasonable) expectation that everybody on the same side as you about the war are going to be on the same side as you with regard labor vs management or the same side as you with regard to animal rights or the same side as you with regard to GLBT issues or ..........

We have to cope, have to learn how to cooperate when we can and not let the fact that over other things we fight get in the way.

Come on people, let's all defend a vivisector's right to torture animals!

Sod that mate, you either have morals and principals you stick to or you don't - simple as.

Unite are a bunch of scummy bastards, working with the arms trade and now vivisection. Will they be defending the right of BNP lackies to gas jews if they get into power? Nope, so why defend someone's right to make a plane which will kill kids in Iraq, or these mentioned vivisection companies?

I personally, along with a lot of people, hope vivisection institutions close down and they all lose their jobs. Tough shit isn't it!