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BNP Humiliated in Newcastle

Geordie | 28.11.2009 16:16 | Anti-racism | Migration

Fash not welcome in the North East!

The BNP is a sight rarely seen on the streets of Newcastle, but today they slithered out from their sewers and attempted to hold a stall in the city centre.

Anti-fascist activists were quickly alerted, and by one o clock a sizeable crowd had gathered. They surrounded the fash, who were stood on the monument, and started a protest. The fash numbers were small, maybe 15 at the most at one time, whereas up to 150 anti-fascists gathered, chanting and mocking the so-called master race. Police turned up and tried to split the protesters, with fash on one side of the road and activists on the other. Although for a while they stated they would arrest people for obstructing the highway, after a while they gave up and the fash were once again surrounded and taunted.

They started packing up at 2ish, at which point activists reclaimed the monument and in no uncertain terms told the remaining dregs to fuck off.
A group of the fash had a bottle of ribena threw over them, next time expect eggs.

There was a number of activist groups within the protest; socialists, anarchists, refugee/asylum rights campaigners, no borders, and a large number of local people who came to show their disgust at the BNP.

Newcastle has a proud working class, anti-fascist history. This was a warning to the BNP today, come back and you'll be dealt with again.

Geordie

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Mildly ironic

28.11.2009 16:54

Nice to see the anti-fascists behaving like fascists once again. Can't take free speech so you resort to intimidation tactics to stop people from expressing their views?

Bitter sweet irony.

I bet you felt well hard when you threw ribena over them. Is that what hardcore activists do these days?

Evidently never heard of the phrase "I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it"

It's no wonder the public thinks you're all utterly batshit insane.

Left and right political extemism is bollocks

Heartening to see crowd boo the Fascists away

28.11.2009 17:01

I got to the monument just after two and saw a big crowd for Newcastle telling the unsightly fascists to leave our wonderful city. Lots of young people and people I didn't recognise so it has cheered me up. I saw one bloke in a smart suit having his details taken by a bizzie. I don't know whose side he was on or what he had done. Can anybody enlighten me?

Happy Anarchist

No platform them!

28.11.2009 17:07

Nice one to everyone who turned up!!
The BNP would take away the free speech (and a lot more) from so many groups in society if they had any power. They're facist scum, pure and simple. People just don't want them spreading their racist lies.

newcastle lass

There is a bridge and three billy goats gruff

28.11.2009 17:16

@Troll

"I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it"

This means the same as

"I will not exercise my right to have my say and expect you to defend to the death despite your disagreement"

It is called Democracy.

Part of what people object to in the BNP Scum is that they promote lies, hatred and the destruction of the traditional way of life of these islands: freedom, hope and the rejection of fascism.

Your mates understand that. Get them to explain it to you.

henry

BNP support

28.11.2009 18:06

Who will get the biggest votes in Newcastle at the GE and local elections?
The BNP, or any various left group/party?

Paul Gibson

anti fascists you missing the point by a country mile ...

28.11.2009 18:18

.. the BNP don't need to do street stalls to get votes these days. I wouldn't be suprised if this was a set-up to get publicity, knowing full well they would attract a motley crew who they can spin to their supporters as enemies of local working class people - and the knee jerk anti fascists fell right into it. I also wouldn't be suprised if this was a distraction from them leafleting somewhere else on Tyneside.

Whatever, the fact is that the BNP are not humiliated by stunts like this. They use them to gain publicity and meanwhile stack up the votes. I remember the excitement when Griffin was mobbed when in court in Leeds, claimed as a victory for anti-fascists, yet two years on Griffin and Brons are MEPS.

You really want to beat the BNP? Then sorry, but a few saturday afternoon outings won't do it. It takes working with people day in day out, gaining friends and respect. It will take a very diferrent kind of politics than the student shoutiness the left as relied on for decades and has failed us all.

By the way this is the reality away from Indymedia; in Fenham ward in Newcastle the BNP vote has gone from zero in 2006, to 250 in 2007, to 295 in 2008 and 836 in January 2009

 http://www.newcastle.gov.uk/core.nsf/a/resultsfenham

durruti02

@ glyn oops i mean durruti whatever

28.11.2009 19:55

i was there and my aim had nothing to do with humiliating anyone. i was there for two reasons - one is that a friend without secure immigration status insisted on going and wanted support, two was i didn't want any of the BNP's targets (people of colour, immigrants, queers) who happened to walk past to be threatened or scared by witnessing the BNP spread their nasty crap without opposition.

when i used to live slightly south of here there used to be regular anti-abortion demos in the town centre and nobody opposed them at all. they would display huge blown-up photos of fetuses and all sorts. i was only nineteen that year and had just survived a rape followed by an abortion, it would have meant a lot to me if there had been some oppostion then, and it means a lot to my immigrant friends now that the BNP are opposed when they appear in our town.

a person

patronising assumptions 101

28.11.2009 20:04

@ durruti02:

"You really want to beat the BNP? Then sorry, but a few saturday afternoon outings won't do it. It takes working with people day in day out, gaining friends and respect. It will take a very diferrent kind of politics than the student shoutiness the left as relied on for decades and has failed us all."

i prefer to do both, find it very satisfying in fact. work hard every day, week in week out, building networks and supporting each other, but take a couple of hours off on a saturday afternoon to go shout at some fash and drown them out, thus preventing them from upsetting any passersby with their threats (and networking at the same time, come to think of it!).

and thanks for this "By the way this is the reality away from Indymedia; in Fenham ward in Newcastle the BNP vote has gone from zero in 2006, to 250 in 2007, to 295 in 2008 and 836 in January 2009" but most of us working on this issue know our statistics, better than you do i'd say, we really don't need to patronised by armchairs idiots like yourself.

geordie lass

humiliated?

29.11.2009 01:43

Just a quick thanks to all the anti BNP supporters for giveing the BNP alot of publicity... i loved it how when the BNP moved away from the monument to catch kickoff for the preston game you all ran onto the monument and jumped up and down like children. lol

The suit person threw ribena over the BNP, he was from the socialists

dan

i was there and i didnt feel humiliated

29.11.2009 01:47

strange that... bit of a biased report this... all i felt was amusement looking at that shower across the road... am sure youll find some photos.

dan

BNP Activist Response

29.11.2009 02:24

I was at the day of action held by the Newcastle branch of the BNP today and i find your article highly amusing and full of lie's.

1] Why not report that the BNP members were made up of ages from 16 to 75 with an average age of about 45?
2] Why not report that the BNP were dressed smart or smart casual (No knuckle dragging Nazi Skinheads anywhere)
3] Why not report that you were screeming abusives at a 4ft.9 75 year old woman (who had just came to look at our leaflet) by thrusting a megaphone into a her face and yelling down to her that she was Nazi scum?
4] Why not report that you made NO attempt to confront the BNP until you felt safe in numbers by inviting every poor excuse of an action group to your counter demo? (BNP or Anarchist's... who would the public vote for?)
5] Why not report that a lady who came to visit her BNP member husband had a "DEATH THREAT" made against her by one of your unwashed lot, even though she was there with her child and had nothing to do with the BNP?
6] Why not report that the BNP never rose to your feeble attempts for a confrontation and we just laughed in your face?
7] Why not report that YOU have not looked at the BNP policies, dont know what we represent but feel that you NEED to confront us because it is "the current in thing" amongst your rabble?

Never mind, you may grow up one day and realise that the BNP are actually quite a good party with a lot of great policies.
Goodbye.
Newcastle BNP

BNP Activist

Say wha'?

29.11.2009 02:39

Freedom of speech; the right to say what you want, when you want, where you want.

But only if you are a 'white aborigine'?

Oliver Irwell

meh

29.11.2009 05:49

"You really want to beat the BNP? Then sorry, but a few saturday afternoon outings won't do it. It takes working with people day in day out, gaining friends and respect."

The two are hardly mutually exclusive.

omega

Anti Facists the Real Facists here

29.11.2009 06:34

Anti fascists come out once again as the fascists using bullying tactics in an attempt to denounce freedom of speech and yes very ironic. Almost as bad as Antifa who demand that you agree with them or they'll smash your face in, fascism once again. Say no to these Communitarian nanny state Pinkos, with their cultural Marxism and their tyrannical acts of Fascism. People have a right to be informed of the facts, to make up their own mind, without threats of violence, social exclusion and persecution.

Defiant Libertarian

Do anti-BNPers actually try to help the BNP??????

29.11.2009 08:44

all the silly protests do is draw crowds (and yes they dont take notice of socialism or marxism, they take notice of the nationalism on show) and make people who oppose the BNP look like skruffs waving banners with anarchist symbols on..... get a grip and stop damaging your cause!!!

Don

Was there.

29.11.2009 12:45

Hmm, ok this article is slightly biased, i suppose if its written by an anti-fascist then you have to assume it will be in some way. At the same time though, as one that was there, I felt it must have been a pretty humiliating experience for the BNP.
And, heres a few quick responses to the points made by the BNP activist -

Firstly, you say that the age range of people present was 16 - 75. Are you forgetting the two kids you had there, aged maybe 7 or 8 at the most? What the fuck is wrong with you? Not only are you brainwashing your kids with fascist dogma, but your also putting them in a very intimidating situation. Absolutely disgraceful.

Secondly, you say you were dressed smart or smart casual. I'm sorry, but this is such a huge lie that its actually embarrassing. One of you lot was clearly off his head on drugs, as he kept stumbling around and nearly falling asleep whilst standing. Everyone there was laughing at him, and it was actually painful to watch something so humiliating.
As for the rest of you, it seemed to be either cheap tracksuits or suits from Matalan. So don't go for the 'we're so respectable and smart' bullshit.

As for the 75 year old woman who was so-called verbally abused, i think you'll find that she was threatening numerous protestors and had to be dragged away by both police and yourselves a couple of times.

You also had some stupid fucking punk fella who kept making sieg heil salutes.

What a lovely group of people eh!

Cj

circle

29.11.2009 21:02

ive just been masturbating and shot my load when i had an idea
why don't we all get in a big circle and jerk off together?

lijdit

Response to cj

29.11.2009 22:41

Thank you for your response, however please let me reply to your comments.

Firstly, I honestly cannot remember the 2 children who you refer too? I have also asked other BNP members and supporters who were there if they had any knowledge of the 2 children, and all have stated that no children was present except for the 17 year old girl (if you would call that age a child?).

Secondly, You state that "one of our lot was off his head", I can remember that person with whom you are refering too. I can assure you that the person and his friend (yes there were 2 of them) had NOT been invited by any member of the BNP and was unknown to us, these 2 people were passing and decided to "join in", you may recall a member of the BNP talking to a woman police officer? That member was actually asking the police to remove that person but the police refused because he had not commited an offence.
You state that the clothes worn by the BNP were cheap or from Matlan? Well maybe they were or maybe they were not, I am not an expert on fashion and nor do I shop in Matlan....But at least the BNP had taken the time to get out of bed early, get WASHED, combed their hair and put some CLEAN clothes on, which is more than can be said about the rabble which came to protest.

Thirdly, So the 75 year old woman was "threatening numerous protestors" (that really made me laugh) That 75 year old woman was trying to tell the protestors that her father had fought (and been injured) in both world wars and that she was not a "Nazi Scum" as the rabble were screaming, the police then made her step back as they feared for her safety, she was NOT "dragged back" as you put it.

Fourthly, The "Punk fellow" was a passing shopper from Sunderland and not a member of the BNP, I did not see him make any "sieg heil salutes" but if he did then he is NOT welcome in the BNP, maybe he will join the Anarchist group as there were only 3 or 4 of them?

And finally, YES we ARE a lovely bunch of people.

BNP Activist

Another response

30.11.2009 13:36

I'll keep this quick.

The 2 kids turned up with their mother and father after about 2, one boy one girl, the parents had the boy hold up one of your BNP signs. Numerous people were disgusted by this and i saw some people take photos so i'm sure photographic evidence will soon be available. On another note, you had another kid there who looked barely over 15. Nice to see the BNP exploiting vulnerable young people for political purposes.

You talk about us being unwashed and wearing dirty clothes. Are you seriously confused? You had two drugdealers, one nearly drooling all the over the monument cause he was so fucked, you had a nazi punk (who had numerous tattoos of swastikas that he kept showing off, and yes he was sieg heil saluting) as well as a load of charvers. Nowt wrong with a tracksuit in my opinion, but talk about calling the kettle black!

You mentioned you had no skinheads. Another lie. You had a skinhead fella thats been seen on numerous NF events stood with you.

The 75 year old woman, I think you'll find that she was actually telling people to 'piss off home'. And that one anti-fascists response to her was that their grandfather used to shoot people like the BNP in the war.

You really are the dregs of society aren't you. And the fact that literally over a hundred people inititated a protest against you, with no prior knowledge of such a protest taking place, shows that you simply do not and will not have the support of Newcastle people.

Geordies are black and white, we don't your ignorant fascist lies.

Cj

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How many?

30.11.2009 15:23

The BNP vote is growing in Newcastle, and will increase in the elections next year.
How many votes will the great unwashed of the left who hang around Newcastle town center every weekend get?
Whoops! I forgot, you don't stand in elections as no one will vote for you.

You stupid middle class white pricks will as always, achieve fuck all.

Yunus Bakhsh

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Yunus...

30.11.2009 15:43

Well, I don't 'hang around the centre' every weekend. Maybe you're thinking of the Communist lot. I'm not a Communist, i'm an Anarchist, which means i'm against the ballot box and therefore I, quite logically, don't want any votes. Doy, a hole in your logic their mate.
And for the record, I shower everyday making me 'washed' as opposed to 'unwashed' and I come from a solidly working class small town in the North West.

Go Troll somewhere else, idiot.

Cj

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This is me

30.11.2009 16:33

The last comment from ''Yunus'' is not me.
I am a leading member of the SWP who is in the process of getting our house into order in the SWP North East.
Well done to those who joined with me in chanting abuse in the center of Newcastle at the BNP.
I look forward to you support my lead again, once again thank you.

The real Yunus

Dan

30.11.2009 21:38


" i loved it how when the BNP moved away from the monument to catch kickoff for the preston game you all ran onto the monument and jumped up and down like children. lol "

It was Swansea you ball bag!! BNP supporter in getting his facts wrong shocker!!

Lord Taffy Bollocks

Free Speech

01.12.2009 23:49

With all due respect the comments about defending the BNP's right to free speech are completely naive. I do alot of anti-racist activism, BNP supporters send me death threats all the time, and one of their favourite threats is "the day of the rope is coming" (alongside other examples like "I will beat you to death with your own leg" and "you are one n****r I would love to gut" etc).

Quite apart from minor historic episodes like the BNP attacking a meeting at Welling Public Library with hammers, chair-legs and swinging bike-chains, crash helmets and fire-extinguishers, slashing Liverpool Anti-Fascist Alec McFadden's face with a Stanley knife, and the nail-bombs planted by former BNP steward David Copeland, what the BNP mean by "the day of the rope" is that they make no secret of the fact that if they ever got into power (!) they'd reintroduce the death penalty.

The BNP are OBSESSED with what they refer to as "traitors". These are not traitors in the conventional sense (like Oswald Mosley and William "Lord Haw Haw" Joyce of the British Union of Fascists) but "race traitors" and anyone who "supported" multiculturalism - in other words all non-white people, anyone of mixed-race, and anyone who opposed the BNP. They'd have us all HUNG. The right to defend yourself against a homicidal ideology is more slightly more important than protecting the BNP's right to defame entire communities.

BNP Member admits Terror Charges...
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4hL0c5cFIs

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We were not humiliated

22.01.2010 13:56

over 4000 pieces of literature were distributed, nobody knew who the guy who fell over was, or the punk, they just appeared.

everyone opposing had just came from the unis, and the asian man who was leading your chatnt told me to wait until he sees me alone... he's the one who always seems to be in that hospital in Fenham.

But yeah a great day, and we did not feel humiliated.

Faz
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Elswick results.... lets see how the far left did here :)

22.01.2010 14:04

Newcastle City Council - Elswick - May 2008

James - Lab- 933
Booth - BNP- 657 (26.8%)
Aslam - Ind.- 339
McQuillin - Lib- 309
Toward - Cons- 179
Huggins - Left List- 27 ----- lol

Dinny
mail e-mail: sadadfasfda@live.com

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