my goodness, UAf/ socialist wankers party trolls are creeping out from their hideouts, trying to peddle same shit propaganda to everybody, trying to make people feel guilty for not voitng.. open your eyes wankers!

I quite agree anti. What's even worse is the so-called "anarchists" pushing the same stupid line. I've never known a time when it was easier to push an Anarchist anti-electoralist message. For years we've been telling people politicians are inherent liars who can't be trusted, and it's easier to see than ever before. Yet, instead of capitalising on this to put forward arguments for direct (rather than representative) democracy, there are fairweather anarchists calling for people to vote in order to supposedly 'keep out' the fascist BNP. As if this was the first election where fascists had stood, and as if a vote for any of the other parties is really any better. These people have no business calling themselves Anarchists at all, they are a disgrace.

> If you do not vote on Thursday and the BNP get in, then it will be YOUR fault and now one elses.

Fuck off. If the BNP get in, it will be mainly the fault of the people that voted for them!

(But also, arguably, certain sections of the mainstream media and political establishment who encourage racist attitudes).

But hey - it's always easier to blame the radicals than the people directly involved, isn't it?

Sounds like lots of people feeling guilty because they're not voting, huh? Well, this is a v good video anyway, and even if you don't vote, it's essential to get the information about the BNP's real politics out there, so well done. Look at that poor woman who was collared by them and had no information to counter their claims that they were not racist!

I don;t believe the above posters are real. I think they are BNP trolls. Otherwise they would be supporting this sensible enterprise, voters or not.

...changes nothing. Feel free to go smash the state...but vote too. It's a all a tactic, that's all.

are wasted votes still counted. . .

If i was totally paranoid, i'd come to the conclusion that the bnp are being covertly backed by mi5 in order to cajole people into supporting the crumbling political status quo in this country. Obviously, i'm not, and it's just that there is a large number of gullible wankers in this country who'd believe anything a fat welsh cyclops would tell them.

>I've never known a time when it was easier to push an Anarchist anti-electoralist message. For years we've been telling people politicians are inherent liars who can't be trusted, and it's easier to see than ever before.

True.

>Yet, instead of capitalising on this to put forward arguments for direct (rather than representative) democracy, there are fairweather anarchists calling for people to vote in order to supposedly 'keep out' the fascist BNP. As if this was the first election where fascists had stood, and as if a vote for any of the other parties is really any better. These people have no business calling themselves Anarchists at all, they are a disgrace.

False.

Recommending voting negatively as a tactic isn't confined to stopping the BNP, nor is it 'instead of capitalising on this to put forward arguments for' participative democracy. It's a slur to say that. Even minor improvements in a repressive regime make important differences however they are brought about. It's a pragmatic tactic, 'sinking to their level' if you prefer.

The anti-BNP argument is that proportional elections like the European one carry important power and large salaries, and so any vote for any non-fascist candidate is a financial and political attack on them, however little faith you have in who you are voting for or how little faith in the process. Where are the Monster Raving Loonie party when we need them?

I think every anarchist should vote while the voting system is so skewered, more than that I think anarchists should run in every election, to allow protests votes. Choose a party name like 'None of the Above' or 'Spoiled Ballot', stand for election promising never to attend, never to meet, and give away all of your salary. If Antifa would run candidates on such a platform it would cut the percentage vote of all the other parties, and that would cost the BNP money.