I was there, this is just crap, there was about 60 which grew to probably about 150 maybe a little more and that's just rubbish after all the publicity. This spin to cover what was a disaster for the animal movement just wastes everybody's time and hides the real issue of falling support for the issue.

I came home really pissed off and I haven't changed my mind since then. I don't know what to do but writing articles on IndyMedia saying it was a success is not it.

"Overall though I definitely think it was well worth it!"

Worth what for f****s sake?! It succeeded in changing absolutely nothing. It was a complete waste of time. I absolutely despair at how the anti-vivisection 'movement' has degenerated into the joke it has become today. How the vivisectors and their drug industry-paymasters must be laughing at your antics!

In fact, I am starting to wonder whether the rise of this so-called militant animal rights movement isn't just another tentacle of the vivisection industry purposely formed to infiltrate the more excitable elements of the animal rights movement - just as the BUAV and co have long been infiltrated in order to keep the more sedate members of said 'movement' inactive by deliberately engaging them in useless camapigns against cosmetic testing etc.

Anything to keep people away from talking about the scientific nulility of vivisection.

At the risk of boring myself to death, as well as regulars here, I will repeat it once more: vivisection exists because most people believe that it helps to save human lives. They will always put their moral feelings towards animals at the back of their mind and see animals endure the torments of hell so long as that elusive promise of a cure for cancer is dangled in front of their noses.

Here's a clue: on the front page of national paper yesterday was the headline 'Once and for all flu jab - UK trials begin on super vaccine to protect against all strains with a lifetime injection'. On page 7 was a full page article entitled 'Herbal hazards that could threaten the unborn child'.

Despite the fact that the flu jab has recently been proven to save no-one, and pharmaceuticals kill tens of thousands annually, and herbal remedies kill nobody at all, newspapers continue to circulate this crap. THIS IS WHY VIVISECTION EXISTS!!

Rather than plodding through the rain soaked streets of Ledbury, and no doubt alienating the vast proportion of the public in the process, you would have advanced the AV movement much more by spending a day leafleting the public as to the criminal actions of the drugs industry, the millions of human deaths and injures brought about by the products of the vivisection laboratory, and the murder of millions of animals used as a scapegoat when drug industry poisons kill and injure people, although admitedly this would have been much less exciting.

HLS shows no sign of closing, the Oxford lab camapaign has been a total failure, and vivisection continues into the 21st century unabated; all failures due to campaigners' refusing to think for themselves and not doing what has to be done

What is desperately needed is a full frontal front attack on vivisection using the intellect; to educate the whole nation that vivisection exists ONLY to make money for a pharmaceutical industry that is happy to march across a mountain of corpses - both human and animal - in its obscene search for more profits. Only when enough people have been woken up from the slumber they are currently happy to exist within will vivisection ever stand a chance of being finished off; regretably to say this including the vast majority of current campaigners.

Is there anyone who is able to understand this and has the guts to break away from the current herd-like mentality that will see vivisection continue until the end of time?


Regards,

Steve
home Homepage:  http://www.vivisectionfraud.com

It's just a copy & paste from:  http://indymedia.org.uk/en/2008/09/408251.html?c=on#c203323

It might make sense if they weren't replying to a quote Lynn didn't infact make, because it was obviously made on the previous article.

Steve you are boring the tits off everyone, I rue the day when your copy and paste function packs up on your PC. Accept that people should campaign in the way they feel happy. As someone else posted previously, your method of campaigning has hardly shown any success in current or past years so please feel free to continue handing out leaflets - if vivisection ends because of public opinion I will eat my own face.