You know my mother is a fucking saint. She is almost impossible to wind up. But if you wind her up enough, when she is already down, if you manage to offend her deeply, even she will fly at you and say the most hateful things she can think of.

So quelle fucking surprise. Jeez, this is really bringing the Stormfront crew here en masse. Have any of you 'freedom of hate speech' folk ever actually been to a mosque ?

yes, a peaceful faith as shown in their holy book when it says "the unbeliever shall burn in the chasticement of fire.

My Mother saw these pictures:

It's interesting that the picture placed in twice is of a woman with a placard
about the "real holocaust". Does she know something about the treatment of Moslems
that the Hatemongers would rather you didn't hear about?

It's a matter of historical fact that the entire world was, more or less, aware of
the genocide going on in Germany in the thirties and forties. Liars masquerading as Historians might want to forget spewing their nonsense out and get back in their Austrian Cells. It was not merely the Jews. There were badges for everybody - from the mentally feeble to the leftwing intellectual. Anarchists got a Black Square, Jews a Yellow Star.
They placed it over your heart to give the squaddies something to aim for.

Maybe the "oh, great, fucking peaceful moslems" brigade are just getting a little ahead of
themselves. Showing just a little too much of their intent. Fascists like to commit mass murder. It shows who is in charge. It matters not if you call them the BNP/BPP or
some other scumbag outfit. The truth is Fascists Love to Kill. They don't care if they kill
Jews Moslems, Gypsies, Anarchists, Reds, Black, the Unions, Communists... they love to kill. What badge will you be given?

And when people are terrified of being murdered for who they are they have a Duty to be Angry. Not a Right. Fascists are compelling Moslems to do their Duty. If Everybody stands by and watches, Moslems will be murdered simply for believing in superstition and stories. Nobody really cares if gods exist. But everybody has a Duty to care that Evil Exists. And endlessy pours shit out of the sewer of Fascism. Maybe the is already a warehouse full of green circles being built in Fascist minds.

Forget the bollocks about religion, race and ethnicity, that's Fascist Stamp collecting: put the underclasses in their little boxes and we, the Overlords of the Universe will rise. The genuine issue is not that Moslems are Angered because of Satire. It's that Fascist Scum see it as a way to get their murderous kicks.

Thats what happens when you taunt my mother too much. She gets really pissed off. Bet the Woman in the Burka is annoyed too.

"yes, a peaceful faith as shown in their holy book when it says "the unbeliever shall burn in the chasticement of fire."

Is that the best you can do ? Jeez, if I wanted to demonise Islam for my own fascist beliefs then I could do a damn sight worse than that.

In case you had deliberately overlooked the matter, all Abrahamic religions believe in Hell. If you who are casting the first stones also profess some belief then maybe you should consider the implications.

Wow. You 'anti-fascists' really are angry people, aren't you? Why? Bad childhoods? No friends? Physically repulsive and therefore shunned by society? Why-oh-why?

Danny - why on earth would anyone want to go to a mosque? If I want to surround myself with silly superstition I'll watch Derek Acorah's Ghost Towns, thanks. Oh, and how do you square your perverted liberal-left fascist beliefs with the misogynistic 'men only' status of Mosques? Duhhh.

As for the argument that right-wingers are all born murderers - hahahaha. I suppose the scum behind 7/7 were close friends of Griffin, were they?

Danny, my poor deluded boy, when they take over you won't be receiving any special treatment. You are an Infidel, whether you like it or not.

Now go and get a girlfriend or something. Girls are fun. UAF marches aren't. Taking up something like Judo might help with all that surplus aggression. And don't worry, a lot of adolescents go through this 'angry and confused' phase. With luck, you'll begin to form rational beliefs by the time your acne recedes.

Danny, you are becoming incoherent again.

"....So quelle fucking surprise. Jeez, this is really bringing the Stormfront crew here en masse. Have any of you 'freedom of hate speech' folk ever actually been to a mosque.... ?"

These are real pictures. They are not faked. They cannot be explained away by lame references to your Mother (poor woman). I've been to several mosques in the UK and elsewhere. I'd recommend the Blue Mosque in Istanbul. It really is stunning. What point were you trying to make by the way? The tactics of the 'left' in the UK over this issue are simply wrong. The left has been wrong before (and me with it) and it will be wrong again. You cannot make allegiances with these groupings. They will say whatever you want to hear but at root you are alien, you are a godless infidel and you deserve to die, or at very least become subject to their rule.

Yes, the pictures speak for themselves.

"Wow. You 'anti-fascists' really are angry people, aren't you? Why? Bad childhoods? No friends? Physically repulsive and therefore shunned by society? Why-oh-why?"

Belsen and Falluja. Why aren't you angry ?

"Danny - why on earth would anyone want to go to a mosque? "
An older, wiser Algerian anarchist took me. He wouldn't go in himself ( his grandfather had killed an Imam and so he felt ill at ease there ) but he said it was a beautiful building where I would learn many things. My friend told me the most beautiful story about religion, about how his father wouldn't let him and his brother go to the mosque 'with all the other children' as 'I worship your mother as a God- to enter the mosque would be to blaspheme against her. Anyway, a man of that stature, a good drinking buddy and a mentor, he took me to a mosque.

"If I want to surround myself with silly superstition I'll watch Derek Acorah's Ghost Towns, thanks. Oh, and how do you square your perverted liberal-left fascist beliefs with the misogynistic 'men only' status of Mosques? Duhhh."

I don't approve of Islams patriarchy, I condemn it. Once women in the West start earning equal rates for their labour and more than a few percent of rapists get convicted then that mysogony will certainly be a reason to criticise Islam (and Judaism for that matter) but until then I think we should not be hypocritical.

"As for the argument that right-wingers are all born murderers - hahahaha. I suppose the scum behind 7/7 were close friends of Griffin, were they?"

It is interesting that the police and media were reporting Arabs had commited the Oklahoma bombing right up until they caught Timothy McVeigh. Can you explain that in a way that doesn't cast doubt on your strange 7/7 postulation ?


"Danny, my poor deluded boy, when they take over you won't be receiving any special treatment. You are an Infidel, whether you like it or not."

Oohh scary - they are taking over are they ? Quick, lets kill them all before they take over and kill all of us. Have you people seriously not improved your arguments since 1933 ?

"Now go and get a girlfriend or something. Girls are fun. "

Too true and damn good advice

"UAF marches aren't."
What is UAF ?

"Taking up something like Judo might help with all that surplus aggression."
It doesn't, neither does Tai Chi. Streetfighting does though.

"And don't worry, a lot of adolescents go through this 'angry and confused' phase. With luck, you'll begin to form rational beliefs by the time your acne recedes. "

I'm nearly forty and I still get bad pimples. "Oooh, the testosterone is strong in this one !" One of my mates said to me recently after I promised to try and kill Blair, 'Danny, your politics haven't changed but it's hard to believe you. You promised to kill Thatcher in 79 and the bitch is still breathing'.

But I suppose you have to know me to be able to slag me properly. I don't have to know you. It's a choice between you, the BNP and the war lobby against the socialists, the victims of our current genocide and the peace-movement. I choose life.

I promise however to uphold our undoubted freedom to provoke Islam if the rest of you promise not to slaughter any Muslims for their religion for a full year. Deal ?

Members of Israeli death squads are trained to pass themselves off as 'extremist' muslims. This skill is useful for more than just murder. While the dummies assume that the useful photo-op provided by the demo in London flows from an excess of annoyance at OPERATION 'THE ETERNAL MUSLIM', smarter people will understand that Blair's agencies leave NOTHING to chance.

ONE PERSON neatly infiltrated into a muslim organisation or mosque can ensure that the right kind of message (from Blair's point of view) appears on enough placards. That is all it takes.

With the horrific murder of muslim kiddies by Israeli death squads last week, and with daily rape/torture/murder of muslims by Blair's forces in Iraq, no muslim protest has to look hard for extreme messages/images that no-one could criticise. However, if there HAD been a poster of the young girl blown apart by that Israeli sniper, with the message "every day these bastards murder our kids", no photo of THAT demonstrator would have appeared in the UK press, or in the above article.

Instead, we have these random, useless, inflammatory messages at the demo. HOW VERY CONVENIENT. And we have the usual suspects in the comment section taking them at face value. HOW VERY CONVENIENT AGAIN.

DID YOU NOTICE THAT THE FIRST FOUR POSTERS (in the photos) ARE WRITTEN BY THE SAME HAND? Look at the 'R', 'E' and 'P'. So, guys, whether you care to believe what I say or not, you are commenting on posters that come from ONE person- ONE mind. I KNOW who that person was working on behalf of, because I KNOW what OPERATION 'THE ETERNAL MUSLIM' has to achieve for Blair to move to the next stage of his plans.

Sorry, ALL the posters are written by the same person. Look at the distinctive 'S'. Well, you can't accuse Blair of making his methods hard to spot, can you!

"I'd recommend the Blue Mosque in Istanbul. It really is stunning. What point were you trying to make by the way? "

Thanks for the recommendation but I'm afraid I wouldn't really feel safe to visit it now though, thanks to the tension that have has been successfully created. What was my point again, oh yeah, the fact that you are probably the only pro-cartoon poster pontificating about Islam that has taken any interets in the religion up until now. And even senior Nazi SS Officers learned Arabic and Hebrew and Yiddish, so I suppose my point was foolish and redundant. Unlike the industrial death factories happily operating throughout our land, building bombs to drop on Islamic countries, which are far from redundant.

"The tactics of the 'left' in the UK over this issue are simply wrong. The left has been wrong before (and me with it) and it will be wrong again. "

Speaking as a disinterested neutral between/above left and right, the left is more often correct than the far-right.

"You cannot make allegiances with these groupings. They will say whatever you want to hear but at root you are alien, you are a godless infidel and you deserve to die, or at very least become subject to their rule."

Yes that is true but everyone feels like that about me not just Muslims, and I feel that way about everyone as I am an anarchist ! I sort of feel that way about myself ( that is a a joke!!).

The peace movement in the west has forged ties with the peace movement in the east. I was getting wound up by people demonising soldiers the other day here after working to build bridges myself, but I know you folk are burning other peoples bridges too.


You shouldn't demonise Islam at this time if you are working for peace. Is that coherent enough ?

Funny how people who smugly and incorrectly preach about how the West is a secular paradise, pretend all Muslims are extremists, while conveniently forgetting to consider that every religion has it's share of nutcases. Then they leap at the first opportunity into stupid, disingenuous and peurile arguments about the literal meaning of scriptures.

These kind of trolls only care about one thing - demonising the enemy by supporting the right wing propaganda apparatus that provokes, no doubt instigates and finances, co-ordinates, and then massively over-plays the current protest - we're talking about a HUNDRED people here - that's a handful..

Muslims and the left are natural allies at the moment, unfortunately - muslims are the only ones who show any interest in the NO2ID badge I wear a lot of the time.

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I cannot see any exoneration for this blatant attack on freedom. Do these people feel good fulfilling George Bush's pronouncements?



Imagine the Constitutional Forefathers here today, squeezing the truth out of the world religious leaders like grapes in a winepress.


Imagine how helpless the Fathers of the Constitution felt when they could not refuse the Vatican’s request to send a bishop into their newly formed nation of free assembly and speech. I bet they never imagined that in the late hours of American history, since Ronald Reagan and John Paul II, five Catholics Justices would be sitting together as a majority on the highest court, when there were only two Catholic Justices appointed during the entire first half of its 217 year history.


I bet that when Benjamin Franklin met with that Vatican emissary in Paris in 1788 to discuss Pope Pius VI’s request, he never imagined that one day there would be a Liberal-Democrat Catholic President whose assassination would be no great loss to a Vatican that seems to prefer a Conservative Republican Catholic President.


For anyone who chooses to remain atheistically skeptical, imagine squeezing the truth out of world religious leaders like clusters of grapes in the “winepress of God”.


In total disregard of earlier prophets (whistleblowers), Moslems say that Mohammad was the final prophet. The prophets before him said there would be people in the later days that would see visions (gain insight) and prophesy (blow the whistle).


Prophecy without a prophet is like a relay race without a baton – having nothing to show as proof of a fair race. Prophecies for Christians and Moslems must be according to that which has been written, otherwise the people will never accept them, but there are those who know this and use it to persuade others to serve their own selfish ends.


You know them when they quote passages of bible prophecy while they subtly promote beliefs that lead to prohibition and censorship. They build the wall of church and state securely around them and drain tax dollars and ‘gifts’ from all facets of society, without accounting for income, which they are legally entitled as tax-exempt charities. They appear lamblike but speak like serpents while crushing those who would remove them of their theistic veils and name their dragon SUPPRESSION. They essentially make big money for finding scapegoats and starting wars, while those who need charity continue to starve and die around this planet.


Let those who want to get biblical or theological consider the observation that theists are screwing both atheists and deists, and that all three have become “unclean spirits”, because they are intermingled among nations.


I think bible believers have no choice but to agree that it is blasphemy of the ‘Holy Spirit’ to stifle their spirit of testimony in the collective media, and that it is unpardonable of individuals to dictate the fate of their subjects to the silence and desolation caused by this abomination.


The theists all claim that they are the true religion; this is why they do not collectively make any noise about a deist’s blasphemous ‘cartoon’ of Christianity and Islam, because they know that ultimately the deists are standing in a safe and worthy to judge which group lives truest to its word. Deists neither deny intelligent evolutionary creation or the political Jesus, who also sought to tear the veils of theism in two.


Hello, I am Canadian. I live next door to a fundamentally retarded democratic theocracy. I think that when the United States Democratic Party consolidates all opponents of Republican theocracy they can safely remove the m from their name. I do not think that atheists or Satanists would mind joining the Deocratic Party, to counteract Republican theocrats who hide behind so-called revealed religion, as long as the political authority of their own gods remain unrevealed. I think peoples around this world could apply this to their political aspirations as well.


Bring on the trolls to add their Mosaic-Pauline clutter to the purity of this text, which underscores censors doing unto others what they would not want for themselves and the reason prophets wrote riddles.


Watch the silly suicide terrorists who believe that they will be welcomed into a place that requires indiscriminate bloodshed, while the silly Moslem leaders rally their people to bitch about a cartoon, but keep their mouths shut about that which would ultimately cast their barbaric prophet into the abyss along with the Vatican, Nazism and all other divide and conquer, fundamentally retarded, democratic theocrats.


I am sick of arrogant Moslems and Christians who think their faith is so divine, when they are so turned away from what their forefathers intended. It is especially stupid how Moslems make the Jews their scapegoats while Christian scapegoat Moslems. It is noble of the Jews for not making scapegoats of others, even though they are hardly numerous enough to do so, because they definitely do not like being made a scapegoat.


Lastly, I do not think the Christian Zionist olive branch is a genuine gesture to Israel, when I see that they have their eye on the temple mount where they can send in their ‘messiah’ to fulfill the prophecies of people like the tax-exempt businessman Tim LaHaye of the Council for National Policy or other such religious Reich propagandists.

Any proof of the shit you spout Twilight or are you just trying to get people to blame the Jews

Although in a sense well-intentioned, BBC Labour's incessant attempts to portray 'the moderate Muslim' indicates the fear of being thought racist and the confusion inherent in the modern politically correct mentality. The approach of 'force them to learn about the rituals of other cultures and make them afraid of being called racist' is like putting a lid on a boiling pot. Sooner or later the lid will start to rattle.

"Why Unrestricted Free Speech For White Folk but No Offensive Muslim Views Allowed? "

Because some of us understand the difference between satirical cartoons and incitements to murder !

Get a grip !

A provocative cartoon is evidently not the same as placards calling for violence against those who insult Islam ... That is incitment to (a)religious violence! Self-evident!