Shit man, forgot we lived in a utopia where it is possible to protest without breaking any ethical guideline.... get a grip.

It is hard to accept such criticism from someone using a computer built from materials made using dead animals and slave labour.

It is impossible to be 100% perfect at the moment; everything we do involves some sort of compromise, but people like you would stop us even trying to get there. Grow up and do something useful.

1./what's peace in da park?
2./ 'Aid'( loose term ) should be about more than the middle class and NGOs throwing money at a problem and spending shedloads on wages and admin. A lot of this money goes to feed and arm soldiers to help them in the day to day job of killing raping and looting.
( well someone has got to do it to let the capitalist bullshit economy go 'round').

Yawn! many people reading this knows who is behind this post, and they also know he smokes loads of spliff himself and is also (probably) the biggest bullshitter in sheffield -- stop trying to tell other people how to live their lives, get your own sorted first.

Peace in the Park is a free festival in Sheffield -  http://www.peaceinthepark.org.uk/ - to try to raise money, raise consciousness and show solidarity with social struggles in Sheffield, the UK and around the world.

Despite the rain, the day was a success and better than previous year's efforts. There were a number of different music tents, a stage, a video tent and healing field, and stalls by a range of Sheffield's campaign groups including the Stop The War Campaign, the Palestinian Solidarity Campaign and Indymedia.

The original post above was made by someone who spent the whole day smoking skunk weed doing precisely nothing as usual.

reagrding peace in the park 04/07/04 are there any pictures of the festival published online yet would be great to take a little look.best wishes jfts. ps: my email is  premiermaple@hotmail.com.

>we have worked something out.. think if all the 2
>million+ anti-war protestors just gave £1 instead of
>attending the mass march in london what could that do?

next to nothing, due to the sanctions imposed on Iraq much of the aid may well have never got through.


> how much tax has gone to
>government and how much of that tax will have gone to
>killing people in iraq

you also pay tax when you pay for your alcoholism


just think on
>average each person who went on that demo spent an
>average £25 for that day out, a cool 50 million plus
>could have been given as direct aid to iraq..

Did you go on a demo? because i remember you encouraging me to go down to london on a demo.


>rumours have it is has cost around a grand or two to
>organise peace in da park a festival of creativity
>unity and understanding?


They kept costs as low as possible in order to maximise the money for charity and due to the other fund raisers the festival was paid for before it even happened so any money collected on the day went straight to either water aid or assist.



of course people will get
>along with white powder up the nose (funding the
>columbian drug trade, how radi-cool) drop an E and we
>all feel love.

i must object to this, peace in the park was familly event no white powder was taken during the festival itself. If people wanted to go elsewhere after the event to sniff white powder that is up to them noone is perfect and i would prefer to take drugs than do some of the negative shit you have in the last week or so but i hope this will be sorted out.


>however we ask at what cost? we ask is it radi-cool to
>consume for peace or act for peace in our everyday
>lives, consume less do more..

peace in the park was the "fun" and "sociable" side to the anti-war movement. Alot of people involved in peace in the park went to leeds or menwith hill for direct action the very next day. If you take away the "fun" human side of things then you end up loosing people so when the it is time for a big protesty or direct action thing less people actually want to do it. (remember the sharrow lantern parade?)


>we hope for an open honest meaningful debate that this
>is a start of that process..

i agree this is needed but i dont think that it should be lead by you untill you can start sorting out your personal problems.

I attended Peace in the Park, in my duty as a campaign stall holder and activist. I must admit I had my reservations about how "Peaceful" and how "inclusive" it would be.
I have to admit it turned out alright in the end, despite the twatty weather(for all). NOT perfect but WELL DONE and Thanks to ALL who got themselves involved and organised.
There are STILL e-mail requests UNANSWERED(Social exclusion abounds?) but, by and large it did O.K. and I do HOPE that mucho money/funds were raised for and by A.S.S.I.S.T. and Water Aid.
In response to the hypocritical crap and explanation postings, the culprit in question I am sure KNOWS that he has to sort his own life out and I KNOW that he is doing JUST THAT and I wish him well. What he, and others is/are trying to tell some of the Sheffield cliques/elitists is that WE ALL HAVE TO SORT OUR F****NG selves out and learn that we are ALL equal and needy and together and that means YOU," Hypocritical crap", you, "Explanation" and ME, Smiley Old Steve".
I love you all, you scabby secterian gits.
Smiley Steve.

you weren't even there mozaz so wot r u on about? u crazy man.

hi peace parkers, young morpheus does have a point or two : we are so very much constrained in what we can achieve in our society : all good intentions seem to meet resistance and the only actions we can take are to go to meetings. until we have the right people in the right positions where they can make real meaningful decisions about what really happens, most of our activism will be expressed in policed demos or virtually unreported conferences. i was around sheffy this weekend, and i was doing a conference about environmental issues. we were struggling to reach agreement about how to get our organisation to adopt a proper position about sustainable living. it takes a lot of time and effort to convert organisations to get on the right track. it takes a lot more effort to change the way the system works. demonstrations, public parties and parades are a way to keep things in the public eye, but where does all the energy go after that ? and what about all the travelling that people have to do to get to the event ? and what about all the resources wasted advertising and reporting the event ? morphy boy does have a point, you know. if we want to save the planet we can't go on wasting our time, money, resources...the question is : how can we be really effective ? don't get all anarchic and depressed people, there are positive things we can do ! jo.