There are plenty of Palestinian POWs who have been tortured and incarcerated for at least as long as these lower primates, but you don't care about them do you - and why? Because you're an over-privileged white supremacist, the brown-skins are lower than animals to you, and this is a safe way to vent your guilt feelings upon safe vivtims of international capitalist production who can't answer back a course. A clear case of moral indignation.

Dear Cockney Slapper

I am an activist for animal liberation and for a free Palestine. I don't know why you feel the need to attack those campaigning for something different than you. You claim I am a white supremesist simply becuase I campaign for animal rights? Do environmentalists, trade unionists, and others come into this category aswell?

If we are really to make comparisons, an animal dies every six seconds in laboratories and the kind of torture they are subjected to goes way beyond anything I have read accounts of going on in the prisons of the Middle East.

Warm regards,
Ritchie

CS - you sad wind-up merchant. That really comes across as cock.

Ritchie - absolutely, there's nothing incompatible about opposing torture and opression of our species and opposing the same abuses of other species. Making time to do both is being a 'multi-disciplinary activist' :-)

But it's really unhelpful to play abuse one-upmanship. It's not about numbers or details, it's about taking a moral position about what is or is not acceptable.

And people tempted to post about medical advances etc. That's exactly what I mean - your morality is different from other peoples. No amount of debate here will bring people to an accomodation. Some people accept animal experiments and some don't.

Some people are ok about experiments on humans too - current stuff about North Korean weapons experiments, older stuff about secret US de-patterning experiments, a bit further back Hitler's people doing some experiments on humans. Probably most people on these boards will find all those last examples abhorent. There's stuff out there on the net about all of them.

It's a nice idea in theory,but I don't think making brain-damaged monekeys into pets is going to be easy for their well-wishers or for them.

They might be better off where they are.

dear mr slapper, i dont think you are in a possition to say what i do or do not
care about. i also feel it very strange that you bring into question the colour
of my skin? i am only calling for something i feel strongly about with a number
of other people. i also have strong views about other issues which are closer
to your ideas than you know, yet i dont take the morral high ground and criticise
others without knowing as many of the facts as i can. good luck with your own
campaigning. r.davies

At the end of the day, we all have our passions and its people like you that jump on line to slag people off because of their beliefs that get on my tits. Get a life and stop bloody moaning.

Kris

This is the ideal kind of protest for South Parks road vivisection lab. It is VERY effective. There is always lots of traffic and a pelican crossing in the perfect spot. So far protests there have been rather ineffective but this could change all that.


1) You need at least 20 (40 would be great) people for solidarity and a good party. Make sure everyone knows well in advance to be ready. Wait for a fine spell in the weather and go for it a few days later.
2) Musical instruments and banners so that people can see why your doing it while you have a good sit down and chat/play. Bring food and drink too. Be ready for a couple of hours of chill time.
3) Before hand let the emergency services know what you are going to do so they can divert thier traffic.
4) Also let the press know before hand.
5) Don't do 5pm rush hour! People will get very upset when trying to get home.
6) High noon is a good time any day.
7) If you want to be really on the case get some legal study students to act as wittnesses in case of any Police brutality.
8) When the cops come be very polite and explain that you cannot move on priciple.
9) When they pick you up DO NOT RESIST you have made your point. Some of you may wish to attach yourselves.
10) Have people giving flyers to the drivers and passers by who will be curious about the hold up.

Right, but I would imagine that no one you would block by closing off the street would have anything to do with the lab - it would just be all the people going around the city centre.

After reading all what cockney slapper had said I think if you feel so strongly with what is going in the world then get out and do something about it!
I, as an AR campaigner, would rather be going on a peaceful demo like yesterday, which can I say was excellent due to the amount of passionate people all pulling together and getting the message across about the Oxford Labs and the amount of animal torture that will go ahead there if the builders come back.
As for the Oxford two they will be rehomed at a animal sanctuary where they will live
for the rest of their lives. They will never be pets and staying where they are is not an option considering after 15 years of experimentation I would say this poor monkeys have had enough.
So if you want to sit back on your arse and just rant then go ahead but it doesnt help the cause and nothing ever changes.