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MAY DAY 2002

Jolly Green giant | 01.03.2002 16:54

What are we going to do on May day 2002 following last year's debacle ?

I would like to get the debate started about Mayday 2002 - May day being our annual event. I have searched the web butthere are no websites up and running yet - does anyone know of any ? Also how are we going to defeat the police plans this year Section 60 penning in etc ? What will reptilian Livingstone do this coming year ? How will the media begin its hype and how do we fight back ? And why are we so tactically naive, lacking in planning and organisation ? Was anyone imprisoned last year from Mayday activities ? How do we stop arrests - especially now that wearing masks is illegal ? What do the WEombles and Black block propose we do this year ? Has that street football idea - fanciful and merely theatrical - been kicked into touch ? And why ALWAYS london ? what's wrong with Glasgow, Leeds, Birmingham, Sheffield, Manchester or many other places and wouldnt changing the geographical location give the state/police new problems logistically ? If anyone knows where the debates are going on and where the audit/assessment of 2001 is taking place, please post here. Let's get a confident, forward looking, positive and clever discussion going...but be mindful that security should always be a top priority as the state obviously monitors this and other sites. La Lotta continua.

Jolly Green giant
- Homepage: www.borderland.co.uk

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Mad-Chester!

01.03.2002 19:18

I say we do Manchester.

Let's have the big mayday stuff in manchester

completely forget about London.

That will REALLY confuse them

Liam G

Logistics are easy

01.03.2002 20:04

It would be nice to go out of London. Anywhere else with public transport [it's still there somewhere] links will do.
I don't think the police will have a big logistics problem though. the cost of putting people on coaches and moving them around the country is not a big worry for them.
if you pick a smaller town then comparatively few police will have local knowledge of the terrain - but neither will we.
and they will have helicopters and stuff.
so, yeah, why not manchester?

Bobby

Bad memory

01.03.2002 22:44

Lots of stuff being planned. not sure if the website is up yet but if not it will be soon. I think its
www.ourmayday.org
but not sure. If you're at the demo in London tommorow, approach someone with a black flag and they should have some leaflets. i think the idea has always been that people organise stuff in their own towns, but a lot of people seem to like coming down to london for the day.
If you're in London you could go to the mayday planning meetings if you have something to contribute. sorry again but i'm not exactly sure when the next one is (i've been a bit busy recently) - someone will probably post it up here soon enough.
If you're really unhappy about the way stuff went last year, why don't you plan yr own action?
see ya there.

rumplestiltskin

Been busy lately?

02.03.2002 02:14

Man with the black flag has been busy working at the bank.

RA

was it SUCH a 'debacle' ?

02.03.2002 13:05

considering that almost all the established left, such as ken 'pigeon killer' livingstone, denounced, threatened and conter-rallied against the mayday monopoly project, surely the surprise is that it went as well as it did ?
whatever else, oxford st was brought to a halt on, saturday, the most important day for conspicuous shopping...

a true trotskyist

was it SUCH a 'debacle' ?

02.03.2002 13:05

considering that almost all the established left, such as ken 'pigeon killer' livingstone, denounced, threatened and conter-rallied against the mayday monopoly project, surely the surprise is that it went as well as it did ?
whatever else, oxford st was brought to a halt on, saturday, the most important day for conspicuous shopping...

a true trotskyist

was it SUCH a 'debacle' ?

02.03.2002 13:05

considering that almost all the established left, such as ken 'pigeon killer' livingstone, denounced, threatened and conter-rallied against the mayday monopoly project, surely the surprise is that it went as well as it did ?
whatever else, oxford st was brought to a halt on, saturday, the most important day for conspicuous shopping...

a true trotskyist

was it SUCH a 'debacle' ?

02.03.2002 13:06

considering that almost all the established left, such as ken 'pigeon killer' livingstone, denounced, threatened and conter-rallied against the mayday monopoly project, surely the surprise is that it went as well as it did ?
whatever else, oxford st was brought to a halt on, saturday, the most important day for conspicuous shopping...

a true trotskyist

mayday 2002 info

02.03.2002 14:22

from  http://www.schnews.org.uk/guide.htm

10 March 2002
Main Mayday meeting
London Action resource Centre (LARC), Fieldgate and Parfett Street, behind the Big Mosque on Whitechapel High Street, nearest tubes are Whitechapel or Aldgate East. Time: 2pm Tel 07786 716 335
 festivalofalternatives@yahoo.com
www.ourmayday.org.uk

small_red_leaf

Mayday 'free for all' is a road to nowhere

02.03.2002 19:35

It seems to me that there are far too many people on the libertarian left who are satisfied with the chaotic state of the anti-capitalist movement. An over-emphasis on dis-organisation has led to the catastrophic failures of the last two mayday's. Yes, I would call them failures as I have experienced two situations where I have been trapped in cordones and there was no collective organised resistance. And this failure to collectively organise resistance has allowed the state to herd us one by one out of the cordon into the arms of police photographers, search teams etc. Am I one of the few people (including the author of the original article above)who is pissed off about this. Judging by the reactions of some of the respondents above it seems that there are people who still maintain that chaotic dis-organisation will be our salvation!!!!!!! This mayday, I pessimistically predict, will again be a chaotic free for all once again; I sincerely hope I am wrong but I doubt it. I am not suggesting that we on the libertarian left should suddenly all become Leninist party types but we do need to rid this movement of a dogmatic over-emphasis on dis-organisation.

bored anarchist