I know what you you mean by vampires. The SWP does seem to procure a precocious takeover. NOT TO WORRY - THE TRUTH WILL SOON OUT

The SWP is paranoid that anarchists and other non-Marxists might take over the Stop the War campaign and the anti-capitalist movement. Just go to a Wednesday meeting of your local SWP group and listen to the cadres enforce the party line - and the build, sell, build, sell mentality. I'm sure it also exists in the CPGB.

The CPGB "Stalinist"? Excuse me while I have a little fucking giggle. They were once, but not any more. They are now a rather stalinophobic species of ex-Trotskyism similar to the AWL with which they now work closely. But I wouldn't expect a narch (abbrev. anarchist) to understand such nuances. And we have all heard about the black block(heads) being infiltrated by the state at Genoa, haven't we? Brings a whole new meaning to the word (copper's?) "narch", don't you think? There will be police informers in left organisations, including the narchs, particularly since they tend to go in for stupid, posturing provocations that expose the rest of the left to repression. This is exactly what state agent provocateurs seek to do: to goad the left into ultra-left adventures and provocations divorced from all tactical wisdom. The state can then arrest the "ring-leaders" and discredit the left. Such actions have the same effect on a smaller scale as the tactics of those who carried attacks on the WTC on Sept 11th. It achieved nothing except giving the right the excuse to bring in a wave of repressive legislation to clamp down on civil liberties in the West and to establish another imperialist bridghead in the East, this time in the oil rich Central Asian region.

The CPGB paper "Wobbly Worker" is pathetic little gossip sheet full of left tittle-tattle. You won't find the real struggles of the working class reported there, but you won't find them in any of the narch rags either. They are are too busy posturing and sneering at those that are building the anti-war movement. If the narch's brains were as big as their mouths they would be putting all their energies into building the anti-war movement, like the Socialist Alliance, instead of pissing on the Indymedia lamp post to prove that this is "their" patch!

Whilst I reserve judgement on the claims above, I would simply comment that whilst this situation sounds suspicious, there are plenty of people in the radical left in Britain who would find Larry O'Hara and Green Anarchist equally dubious as the CPGB and T. Liddle. Searchlight may be tossers, but at least some of their claims against O'Hara and the "Green" "Anarchists" (In my opinion, they have for most of their history been neither)seem justified. The CPGB are not "Stalinists", but "Leninists" by their own definition. To expect Leninists not to criticise anarchists is......shall we say a little naive....Their previous critique of Liddle was that he was an "ex Stalinist". Where does the info on Liddle come from? When was his expulsion from the Greens ? (He stood as a candidate for them in the 2000 elections.)As far as I was aware O'Hara and Liddle were one time co-operators - a reason for treating both with caution! Be careful, get your facts right - do your research - there are agents of various agendas amongst us !

Well, Jeremiah and Fred. We have rattled your cages haven't we ? Jeremiah Brandreth, for those who don't know, was a leader of the last English Revolution in 1817 and was hanged as a traitor. He remains a hero of the workers movbement and it is regretful that some disinforming clone should steal his good name. Fred is clearly a SWP supporter - every time these jerks appear on indymedia they accuse the rest of us of not building the anti-war movement, but everyone knows we are doing that and at the same time consider the vampire socialist workers party an obstacle to building opposition to the war and to capitalism - this is now well documented in the excvellent schnews pamphlet Monopolise Resistance, and it is getting tiring having to repeat the points !
Jeremiah (or shall we call him Oliver the Spy?)is a different matter. Oliver says that some of Searchlight's daft and pernicious accusations against O'Hara and GA "seem justified". Pray tell, Oliver the Spy, which ones? Larry O'Hara did produce an excellent pamphlet called "Searchlight Fiction Pulped" (available for £1.50+postage from BM4768, London WC1N 3XX)which was so good that Searchlight have never mentioned or responded to it.Oliver the Spy asks where the Liddle information comes from ? Stupid berk. From the Green Party Inquiry into why Liddle Mr Convergence himself, was playing footsie with fascists like Troy Southgate. Oliver the Spy lies as spies do - Larry O'Hara never worked with or co-operated with Liddle. O'Hara has exposed the dodgy dealings of Searchlight, Terry and ex-wife Daphne Liddle over many years - a fabrication whivch makes Oliver the Spy's intervention rather interesting. Get hold of a copy of Notes from the Borderland (address as above, see first posting) for the full story on the CPGB and its defenders, and for interesting and incisive articles on Mayday Monopolyincluding an article on media disinformation over Mayday by an RTS activist, but clearly SWP Fred (Move to the Right said Fred) and Jerry (oliver the Spy) wouldnt like that. Kick out the jams. Also Notes from the Borderland now has a discussion site at www.smartgroups.com/groups/notesfromtheborderland, and all anarchists, anticapitalists,eurosceptics, leftists and independent socialists, antifascists,anti-racists and anti-globalisation activists ; scum like leninists and stalinists and similar to poor old OLiver need not apply. See you later peeps. La Lotta Continua !

When you can't answer factual criticism - Smear!

Typical state job. You can tell how much credence to give to "Jeremiah Brandreth" - the creep hasn't even got the courage of his own convictions to put his own name to his lies.

Stephen Booth
Green Anarchist

Errr ..... no I'm not a spy. Just someone who has been involved in radical struggle in this country since John was probably changing his nappy. I do not defend Liddle - his pussyfooting with NTS and other CIA/Fascist "anti-communist" creations in the eighties was well dodgy. However - talk to some of the non-Searchlight (i.e. non state security influenced) AFA members from the early nineties about O'Hara - he has pussyfooted with more than a few Nazis. He tried to make common cause with others attacked by Searchlight and they told him to fuck off. Green Anarchist ? I stand by my claim - complete tossers or state agents - their philosophy for much of their existence can be summed up as extreme misanthropic authoritarian individualism with a political programme akin to Pol Pot. Go boil your head Booth. I will use JB as a pseudonym because A) it gets up the noses of know it all "anarchists" like John - (I am not a Leninist or anarchist John - though I used to be an anarchist before I realised it starts off with high ideals (like Leninism) and ends up with machine gunning people into trenches who dont agree with you)I prefer to use the label libertarian or green socialist. and B) Because anyone who posts non anonymously on this site (and sets themselves up for attack by your local "amateurs")is as foolish as those who think the real players - (the powers that be) can't track us anyhow !

JB you fradulent fool - why don't you read up about Jeremiah Brandreth and the Pentrich Revolution of 1817- England's last revolution (notwithstanding the anti-poll tax rebellion!) and find out who OLiver the Spy actually was and you will see the relevance of applying this to you! You use Brandreth admittedly merely to annoy and antagonise leftists? So what kind of a libertarian are you then ? Does anyone else find this tactic morally reprehensible? By the waty, Oliver, the ORIGINAL posting was about the CPGB and ex-MI5 spy (still being paid by MI5) Michael Bettaney/Malkin and it was a security alert. How interesting that Oliver totally ignores this and tries unsuccessfully to smear a socialist investigative writer, O'Hara, and a group, Green Anarchist, that were imprisoned for their beliefs - some state connection, eh ?! You can understand the enemy by their lies and smears and the way you, Oliver the Spy, have entered this debate reveals your true motivations. Your anonymity speaks volumes, mate. By the way, I may be older than you think, you patronising berk and wisdom is not necessarily the preserve of just the aged. You did not answer any of my points previously - expectedly- and would you give detail on O'Hara and fascists because I can give detail on Liddle and fascists - but you seem to have already changed your position on this one.Having asked for evidence, you now provide your own. How interesting! Youy seem to be changing your script as you go, Oliver, but consistency was never a strong quality for professional disinformers. So what do you think about Bettaney, sonny ?

Trust no-one! Spies are everywhere! That demo you were thinking of going on is an obvious state plot. The best thing is to sit at home and do nothing; that'll fix em!

Look John, I'm clearly not worthy of debating with someone of such advanced intellect. I you read my original post I am merely asking people to be careful before launching into full scale paranoia - a risk demonstrated by your accusations against me. I have no idea what Bettaney's game is, or Shaylers, or Tomlinsons etc - where does O'Hara get his "superior information" from then? Obviously anything these people say/do has to be treated with caution.
My difference with GA and Booth is political mainly - They have been loathsome since the days of Hunt and despite getting rid of that worm they are not much better. Obviously it is a shame if they get fitted up/nicked - but as I remember it that is an "occupational hazard" of anarchism. Just because your state enemy attacks your political enemy does not mean you have to agree with their analysis....this goes for SWP and CPGB if state attacks/sabotages them too - it is right to expose and condemn state attacks but also right to maintain criticism of wrong ideas/strategy of those attacked. If JB offends you (anarchist history police ?)then sorry matey - no one current or individual has a monopoly on history. In answer to your question I,m the sort of libertarian who believes in free debate - whats the point if we can't gain info/experience. And anonynimity is crucial to free debate - you do'nt know who I am - perhaps you should reflect on why you counter questions/criticism with immediate accusations of state/right wing agenda - is this not the knee jerk you would criticise in Stalinists ?

John, you're beginning to sound reasonable, what's wrong? the two basic points remain this - the new issue of Notes from the Borderland is worth reading and within it are two fascinating stories on leftwing history to do with the CPGB and WRP. Well worth reading, and a general security alert around the question of Bettaney (until he deigns to answer the questions legitimately posed) remains. Second, Larry O'Hara has had his life threatened by fascists and others and researches on the edge of parapolitics, questioning the very legitimacy of the secret state. He is unquestionably a staunch, strong and long-lasting antifascist and it ill behoves anyone (especially non-entities like you who have no conscience, it would appear) to accuse Larry of things which are basically unfathomable - it then becomes disinformation and for what purpose. If you had any knowledge of the British fascist movement at all, you would realise that O'Hara's independent and honest research creates enemies as much in the far right as within state and liberal left circles. Long may this continue as it is truly a war of position. The purpose of your intervention, Oliver the Spy, was merely to smear O'Hara and GA - not, as you now claim, to engage in honest debate about political differences. Back to the drawing board mate...