David Joines, BNP

i recommend ringing him, he is very funny on the phone, not so jolly though!!

Just why is the British National Party a fascist party? You can't make statements like that without backing them up.

By the way why don't you call the Labour Party fascist? The Labour Party has invaded two countries Afghanistan and Iraq! Killing resulting in the deaths of up to one million people! Why don't you go and demonstrate outside the Labour Party conference instead?

Because they uphold a pseudo-scientific, pseudo-historical racial bias in favour of caucasians, they stand staunchly against rights for homosexuals, they seek to return men and women to their traditional gender roles, a large proportion of their membership is antisemitic, they constantly blame 'reds' for their problems, and present themselves as the antithesis to socialists and communists (but while still presenting themselves as 'pro-working class', in the tradition of corporativism), prominent party officials and individuals involved or affiliated with the party have denied the holocaust, they present their ideas as part of a myth-centred ideology, they seek to recruit foremost from amongst the young, and finally, their party leader has the final decision on all matters relating to the party, having the power to overrule any and all party members on any matter (ie. he is what could be termed a 'dictator' within the party heirarchy). Remind you of any other famous fascists?

The Labour party went to war not on racial grounds, but on economic ones. They do not fulfil any of these criteria to any meaningful extent. They are hardly governing in the interests of the people, but nor are they fascist in any sense of the word. They are simply capitalist and authoritarian, much like most other political parties in the world.

why should he/she need to back up what is basicly common knowledge but just to educate you why dont you look at these 2 links first. just to be sure you understand what fascism and racism is.

Fascism :-  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
Racism :-  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism

Now go and look at the policies and membership requirements for the BNP along with there " man date " and im pretty sure you will agree. That they are both racist and fascist.

Policies & Manifesto :-  http://www.bnp.org.uk/about-us/policies/


And if you yourself are a BNP supporter i suggest you do some research on who they are and where they come from and be sure you know what your supporting, as even in they eyes of the law ignorance is no defence let alone in the eyes of morality.

There's plenty of opportunity to protest against Labour war - national demo on Sat 20th September in Manchester. I agree New Labour are not fascists in the correct sense of the word, but they are nevertheless inured to the wanton destruction and loss of life that their decisions have brought about. I trust you will be there, or at a similar event? Or are you just cheer-leading for genuine fascists?

I don't see what good it does to encourage harrassment of these people. Just another activist kick and oblation, another "cause" and "action" to reinforce the group, no matter how pointless. We haven't moved beyond the point where racism and right wing thought can't be fought by debate and overcome by understanding. To pretend otherwise just strengthens people like the BNP by making the whole issue seem far more critical than it actually is.

It is the 'harassment' of these people that stops them from spreading their evil bile by taking the fight to their doorstep, their place of work, or wherever they raise their heads.

Meaningful debate does nothing (I have and will keep on trying) as these people do not want a debate that may inform they want to drip feed twisted statistics and stir up hatred and put themselves forward as the answer.