The campaign cites that providing access to avenues of expression is more a solution than incarceration. Manchester has no legal graffiti sites. Condemning our young people to prison has the adverse effect of providing them with an excellent education in many other forms of criminal activity. There are other ways to deal with these problems, such as community service. Having been to prison, the statistics show people are less deterred by the prospect and more readily commit greater offences.
Should we so readily break this powerful psychological barrier at an increasingly young age? By sending young people to prison are we not incubating a bigger problem for ourselves further down the line?
Access or Incarceration?
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I don't mind graffiti but...
26.01.2004 22:47
Paul, Manchester
Provide futures for our children
27.01.2004 12:30
Don't miss the point. The images above are not works of art they are a protest against the incarceration of our youth.
For great cost of cleaning wall's hundreds of youth projects could have been funded to provide futures for our children.
This itself shows where the council's priorities lie and for this alone I will be out writing on the walls.
FREE KLUTZ!!!
monkeyboy
Even if it was free, i wouldnt want any.
27.01.2004 19:00
Do you find access to avenues of expression blocked for you then ?
>Don't miss the point.
>The images above are not works of art they are a protest against the
>incarceration of our youth.
The kid is 17 years old, and, unless he's mentally deficient, he should be held accountable for his vandalism (you've stated above that this is not "art") - or do you assume that everyone else should bear the cost of this self-indulgent selfish youth ?
>For great cost of cleaning wall's hundreds of youth projects could have been funded to >provide futures for our children.
He's 17 and not a child and did you ever consider the fact that if there wasnt shit scrawled all over the walls that had to be cleaned up then there'd be more money around to provide for the "futures for our children"
>This itself shows where the council's priorities lie and for this alone I will be out >writing on the walls.
Then you are a twat who obviously doesn't have to pay the ridiculous council charges that go in some way to clean up your mess.
Ask your parent(s) what they think about you vandalising your estate... i imagine they'll be thrilled !
You scrawling on walls will have absolutely no affect on the council whatsoever. You'll just make the areas around you look even more shitty than they do now. - but then, that was never your intention anyway.... You just want to look big around your mates and get a little bit of attention. - because, after all, you are *special* arent you.
boomshanka
bad joke
27.01.2004 19:21
Freedom for art and expression - no more grey walls!
Non Compos Mentis 2003 - o+ -
nonComposMentis2003
get a life
27.01.2004 19:51
yeah he is 17 and wrote on walls - Big Deal! not all people had a life full of inspirations and stimulation. yet he is treated as a criminal!
street art is an expression of our culture and counterculture. Communication = billboards, flyposters corporate advertising. As high tech communications increase a low-tech reaction has been the recent exposion in the streets (Tristan Manco)
"the idea of using the urban landscape as a canvas remains constant. if u want to get your point across there s only one way to do it: get your message to where the public can see it. Poster , sticker, stencil" D. Kinsey.
All our support to Joe and klutz and the campaign. Use the streets - communicate!
a marker and a spray can do not equal guns and knives: make our city colourful and safe! rather than project this "clean" walls within a city with real crime
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nonComposMentis2003
Sort your priorities out
27.01.2004 21:45
I do agree that Klutz should not be in prison though. He should be out being forced to clean all his pointless mess up. I am confident that this form of community service would genuinely rehabilitate him and show him that the rest of the world do not want to have to look at his tags, rightly compared previously to a dog peeing on a wall.
Paul, Manchester
Sort your priorities out
27.01.2004 21:47
I do agree that Klutz should not be in prison though. He should be out being forced to clean all his pointless mess up. I am confident that this form of community service would genuinely rehabilitate him and show him that the rest of the world do not want to have to look at his tags, rightly compared previously to a dog peeing on a wall.
Paul, Manchester
well
28.01.2004 00:36
think harder
lots of love , NonComposMentis2003 0+
NCM2003
ps
28.01.2004 00:48
does graffiti contribute to people's fear of the urban areas? well as person who lives in the city drunk drivers, abusive people, rapists, gunshots and thief opportunists contribute to the fear of the urban life - not a picture or a writing on the wall saying Free Klutz i.e. free a 17 year old!
For Jeff's sake, get rid of rapists, abusers, paedophiles, murderers, drug dealers = this is what clean city should mean, not erase some graffiti from a wall. Target the REAL problems, do not create a superficially "clean" city!
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NCM2003
Six months in jail for a 17 year old is just wrong
28.01.2004 17:33
Free Klutz
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