London Anti-Cuts Demo << #Dec5

Tell your grand-kids what YOU did during the war!

http://anticuts.com/2012/11/21/see-you-again-on-dec5-free-education-living-grants-abolish-the-debt/

How to make this graphic into stickers - http://tinyurl.com/bogonyq

Join us at Kings College, The Strand, London, at 5.30pm on Thurs 5 Dec 2012 - the day of the Tory + Lib-Dem dicatorship's "autumn statement" - to march on Downing Street at 6pm

Ashfield Unison, Bakers, Food and Allied Workers Union, Barnet Trades Council, Barnsley College UCU, Birmingham NUT, Bristol and District Anti Cuts Alliance (BADACA), Cambridge and District Trades Council, Chesterfield & District Trades Council, City and Islington UCU, Cuffley Anti Cuts Campaign, CWU Eastern No.4 branch, Derby University UCU, Derbyshire Anti-Cuts campaign, Disabled People Against Cuts (national), Doncaster Unison, Dorset, Weymouth and Portland TUC, Dorset Trades Council, Dudley NUT, DWP Bradford PCS branch, Ealing NUT, Edinburgh Unison, Fire Brigades Union London region, Greater Manchester Unite the Resistance, Hackney NUT, Hampshire Unison, Haringey TUC, Hull and District Trades Union Council, Islington NUT, Lambeth NUT Branch Executive Committee, Lewisham Trades Council, Lewisham Trades Council, Manchester Metropolitan University UCU branch, Manchester Metropolitan University Unison, Notts Trades Council, PCS Defra Southern branch, PCS DFT Nottingham branch, PCS DWP Avon, PCS DWP Liverpool, PCS EHRC national branch, PCS Home Office group executive committee, PCS Land Registry Computer Services, PCS R&C Euston, Peterborough Trades Council, Plymouth Trades Council, Portsmouth City Unison, Portsmouth Trades Council, Sheffield NUT, Socialist Teachers Alliance, Southend on Sea LG Unison, Tower Hamlets Unison Local Government branch, Ucatt Maldon branch UFO75, UCU London Metropolitan University, UCU London Region, Unison London Fire and Emergency Planning Authority, Unite 1/854 branch, Unite Bristol Health Sector branch, Unite Fujitsu North West branch, Unite Fujitsu UK Combine Committee, Unite IT & Comms National Industrial Sector Committee, Unite London and Eastern Aerospace and Shipbuilding Industrial Sector, Unite London and Eastern Construction branch, Unite Manchester area activist committee, Unite Norwich Central LE/1880, Unite SC 151 Scottish Housing Associations branch, Unite the Resistance North Wales, Unite the Union branch EM/10-465, University of Liverpool UCU, USDAW North Hertfordshire, Wakefield and District NUT, Waltham Forest TUC

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WEDNESDAY dec 5th *******

26.11.2012 14:30

Mistake in the blurb (tho' not the images and stickers) - it's WEDNESDAY Dec 5th

Wednesday

Labour Party Publicity Stunt

26.11.2012 16:31

The repeated emphasis on this being a protest about "Tory;Lib Dem" cuts and banners suggesting the cuts will be acceptable once the bankers pay give this a strong whiff of a Labour Party stunt.

Mike Hunt

Mike Hunt

26.11.2012 23:20

It's alright Mike Hunt, you won't be attending this demo anyway, but since the Labour Party aren't in power at the moment and the Coalition is (as you know) Tory and Liberal Democrat, cuts imposed by the current govt are by definition Tory and Liberal Democrat cuts. As for the 20 billion in NHS cuts imposed by (a former Communist Party activist working for) Labour, under the last Labour administration, believe me, I for one oppose Labour too - for that reason among many others.

The message that doesn't seem to have reached some radicals is that you have the choice of using protests like this as an opportunity to express solidarity with the people who are affected by cuts, you have the choice of sitting on your high horse and doing NOTHING, and you have the choice of actually delivering a superior alternative? Assuming you're willing to invest more time and effort into trying to achieve something than you've wasted making helpful observations here, tell us exactly what better alternative you'll be delivering (and note the question's about what alternative you'll be delivering, not about what alternative you'll be talking about)?

I don't know who "Unite the Resistance" are in terms of the various ideological affiliations of their activists. Not being naive however, I assume they're drawn from all the usual lefty groups - the same lefty groups who in fact actually bother to organise opposition to austerity, while other self-styled radicals, keyboard warriors and armchair terrorists find fault with those who organise while offering nothing better

Taking the Mike

Mutual Aid

26.11.2012 23:35

Anyone who feels they might not be able to manage a spirit of solidarity and friendly co-operation, feel free not to attend, I'm sure you've got better things to do anyway (Your Off License Needs You)

Have a nice day

Kropotkin

@ Taking the Mike and Kropotkin

27.11.2012 08:59

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...and breathe.

Mike Hunt

@Mike Hunt

29.11.2012 00:11

The question was, given your misgivings about this protest, what better alternative will you be delivering?

And you took the time to post a reply, but not a reply which shows you have anything better to offer

Please don't attend this protest

Everyone else is more than welcome

Taking

@ Talking

29.11.2012 10:02

My wife and I were deciding whether to come on this demo as, although we are not directly affected by the austerity cuts we are very concerned for those who are. Indeed we do what we can to try and help vulnerable people who are suffering and living in daily fear due to the cuts.What we do is not always dramatic.

It would be quite an effort and very costly for us both to get to London for the demo, Due to my illness I find it harder these days to push my wife's wheel chair and negoatiating London fills me with trepidation.

So, I wanted reassurance that if we made this effort we would not be in effect promotong the Labour Party or its backers in the Unions, especially given the tone of the some of the placards shown in the publicity for the demo. I should clarify that I despise the Tory's and Lib Dems.

Your vitriolic and personally abusive response to me, which makes bigotted accusations about my involvement in anti cuts work, is upsetting but tends to confirm that this demo is organised by the authoritarian left.

So, thanks for clarifying the ethos and attitude of the organisers, but I will stay at home and carry on doing the nothing you suspect of people who do not follow you.

Mike Hunt

@Mike Hunt

29.11.2012 23:48

So, Mike Hunt you "wanted reassurance that if we made this effort we would not be in effect promotong the Labour Party or its backers in the Unions" but as you know perfectly well from the dozens of Trade Unions who are supporting the call-out for Dec 5th (bother to read the article above) if you make the effort to show solidarity on this demonstration then you will DEFINITELY be "promoting" (as you put it) these same Trades Unions. This is a moot point however as you always knew this, and this "issue" has nothing to do with the real reason trolls are posting on Indymedia trying to discourage people from supporting anti-cuts demos

I too oppose the authoritarian left, but in this context the one good thing about the hard left is that, for all their many faults, at least they're sufficiently well-organised to organise demos. The issue of authoritarianism is also a moot point in this context, as there's nothing "authoritarian" about a demo that we are all free not to attend. Sure the protest movement isn't in the best shape at the moment, and sure you can always make valid criticisms of any and all political campaigns and groups, but the reason Indymedia is being used by trolls to post up divisive and defeatist comments is because those trolls want to kill-off the anti-cuts movement completely

Journal

Demo Report

06.12.2012 00:41

Small demo, good coverage on RT however, so potentially reaching an audience of hundreds of millions of people -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia_Today

James

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