Islamic Community Net
April 25, 2006
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/islamiccommunitynet/message/9701
The game of "blaming the victim" is part and parcel of the long-established UK policy of "divide and rule" of which the UK media enthusiastically takes part. And they're taking part right now by publishing false claims designed to misdirect public anger.
The dishonest, corrupt and supine-to-Poodle UK media would have it that the 2 Muslims who were so viciously martyred in Tooting, South London, were murdered by other Pakistanis! Here is an example:
From the second article below:
"Prime suspects in the double killing in Fircroft Road, Tooting, are thought to be members of the Tooting Boys - a violent Pakistani street gang involved in guns, drugs, intimidation and kidnap."
The British media need to learn their street gangs and their geography. The Tooting Boys are indeed the prime suspects, but they are most certainly not "Pakistani".
The Tooting Boys are a notorious hindoo Tamil gang: see the first article below. Tamils come from lands over a thousand miles (more than 1,600 km) from Pakistan.
For a map with a distance guide showing Pakistan and its position relative to the Tamil home of Madurai in Tamil Nadu :
http://www.help-ev.de/Karten/in-map.jpg
Please note that 3 articles follow:
*The Definitive list of tamil gangs in alphabetical order
*Gang linked to murder of brothers
*Family 'devastated' by murders
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The Definitive list of tamil gangs in alphabetical order:
EXCERPTED from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_gangs
* Ari Ala Gang (Brent, North West London)
* East Side Boys (East Ham, East London)
* Harrow Tamils (Harrow, West London)
* Jaffna Boys (Croydon, South East)
* tamil pundai (Raynes Park, London)
* Red Gang (Brent, North West London)
* n.p.d aka bad bwoi killaz (raynes lane west London)
* Tamil Snake Gang (Brent, North West London)
* Tooting Boys (Tooting, South London)
* Valvettithurai VVT (North West & East London)
* Walthamstow Boys (Waltham Forest, East London)
* Wembley Boys (Brent, North West London)
* Sothi Boys (Ilford, North East London)
* Woodford TBs (Woodford County High School, London)
EXCERPTED from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_gangs
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Gang linked to murder of brothers
icsouthlondon
Apr 25 2006
http://icsouthlondon.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0200southlondonheadlines/tm_objectid=16987244&method=full&siteid=50100&headline=gang-linked-to-murder-of-brothers-name_page.html
A NOTORIOUS street gang dubbed the Tooting Boys is thought to be behind the frenzied double murder of two Pakistani brothers.
Mohammad and Hayder Ali were dragged from their van on Friday night and butchered by a 15-strong mob armed with knives and baseball bats.
Mohammad, 23, from Battersea, and Hayder, 24, from Southfields, died from stab wounds.
Prime suspects in the double killing in Fircroft Road, Tooting, are thought to be members of the Tooting Boys - a violent Pakistani street gang involved in guns, drugs, intimidation and kidnap.
Muslim leaders warned yesterday further bloody clashes could follow unless Government chiefs tackled escalating violence between warring Asian youngsters.
Toaha Qureshi, head of Proseed - a scheme to empower young Muslims which is backed by Mayor Ken Livingstone - said: "The Tooting Boys are a major gang, involved in guns and drugs.
"They clash with other Asian gangs but this is nothing to do with religion.
"The majority of members have had no proper education and numerous criminal convictions. They have no direction."
The horror unfolded at around 12.15am when up to 15 men surrounded the brothers and a third man in their white Mercedes van and smashed the windows.
The brothers were dragged out and attacked near the junction with Tooting High Street but the third man - the driver - was not harmed.
Cops seized a terrifying array of weaponry - including baseball bats and knives - and arrested seven men.
Fircroft Road was closed for most of Saturday while forensic officers looked for clues.
Detectives were quizzing four suspects yesterday, and three were bailed.
They believe the area was teeming with potential witnesses.
One eyewitness told the South London Press: "I saw a large mob steaming along the street, waving sticks and knives.
"They were shouting at the tops of their voices. We heard one guy screaming, 'I'm gonna f*****g stab you'."
"We dialled 999. We could see one victim lying motionless on the ground."
Neighbour George Tagoe, 52, added: "We kept thinking the two men would wake up.
"As the paramedics tried to resuscitate one man, he screamed, 'No, no, no'. It was horrifying."
Detective Chief Inspector Mick Duthie, said: "This attack has resulted in a family losing not one, but two sons."
Information to the Murder Squad on 020 8721 4155 or Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555 111.
http://icsouthlondon.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0200southlondonheadlines/tm_objectid=16987244&method=full&siteid=50100&headline=gang-linked-to-murder-of-brothers-name_page.html
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Family 'devastated' by murders
BBC
Tuesday, 25 April 2006
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/4942426.stm
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photo:
Mohammad and Hayder Ali
Hayder Ali was due to get married
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41592000/jpg/_41592642_brothers_bodypic.jpg
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The pregnant wife of a man murdered alongside his brother last Saturday has spoken of the family's devastation.
Sadia Ali, 24, who is due to give birth to the couple's second child in three months, said she did not know how she would cope without husband Mohammad.
Mohammad, 24, and his 23-year-old brother Hayder were attacked by about 15 men armed with machetes and baseball bats in Tooting, south London.
Their father, Shahid Ali, said his sons were "massacred by butchers".
'In shock'
The brothers were in a white Mercedes van in Fircroft Road when the mob surrounded the vehicle shortly after midday.
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To lose one son is devastating - but to lose your two sons so suddenly and by such butchery... I can't find the words
Shahid Ali, the victims' father
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The gang smashed a window and got the victims out of the van before repeatedly stabbing them. A third man driving the van escaped unharmed.
Mr Ali, 50, from Southfields, south London, said his wife Shahzadi was in shock and was still expecting her boys to walk in through the front door.
"To lose one son is devastating - but to lose your two sons so suddenly and by such butchery... I can't find the words," he said.
"They were handsome young boys, they had jobs... in the prime of their life. They did not deserve this. They were just massacred."
'It's too hard'
He said Hayder, who lived in Southfields, was engaged and was due to get married in November.
Mohammad, an IT sales manager from Battersea, and his wife Sadia have a three-year-old son and were expecting their second child.
Sadia, who is six months pregnant, said the couple were just about to buy a house and "things were finally settling down".
"I never thought I would be raising my children on my own," she said. "We had planned our lives together.
I don't know how I'm going to cope. I can't deal with it, it's too hard, no words can describe how I feel.
"The family is not coping with this. No-one can accept what's happened."
Five men were being questioned by police in connection with the murders, bringing the number of arrests to 10.
Police, who have appealed for witnesses, said they were keeping an open mind about the motive for the attack.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/4942426.stm
Comments
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who's dividing who?
26.04.2006 11:01
doesn't look like they need to when people are so quick to blame the 'hindoo' enemy. why fight amongst communities when it's the media and government who should be the target?
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icsouthlondon, THAT'S who!
26.04.2006 14:25
The article originating from icsouthlondon (above) clearly stated that the gang was the "Tooting Boys". icsouthlondon misrepresented the Tooting Boys gang as Pakistani. The Tooting Boys are a Tamil gang, not a Pakistani gang. And that is not rubbish, that is established fact as carefully documented by the Islamic Community Net article.
It may yet be that non-hindoo Tamils or even Pakistanis were involved in the attack (see the following article) but if there is any error, then it is certainly the result of icsouthlondon positively identifying the responsible gang as the Tooting Boys. If Pakistanis were responsible then it was clearly another gang.
With internal tensions within the Pakistani community it is necessary to work to defuse such tensions whenever media like icsouthlondon tries to push "divide and rule" disinfo.
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TWO IN COURT OVER MURDER OF BROTHERS
Islamic Community Net
April 26, 2006
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/islamiccommunitynet/message/9711
Two in court over murder of brothers
By Local London Reporter
This is Local London
April 26, 2006
http://www.thisislocallondon.co.uk/display.var.741717.0.two_in_court_over_murder_of_brothers.php
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photo:
Brothers Mohammad and Hayder Ali were murdered in a violent attack early Saturday
http://www.thisislocallondon.co.uk/_images/db/20/60/mohammed_and_hayder_ali.206076.full.jpg
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TWO men have been charged with the murders of two brothers on the weekend.
Mohammad and Hayder Ali, 23 and 24, were pulled from a white Mercedes van and stabbed to death in Fircroft Road, Tooting, in the early hours of Saturday morning by a gang of about 15 Asian men.
Imran Asif Ali, 19, from Mitcham, and Quadeer Khan, 22, from Wandsworth, are due to appear at South Western Magistrate's Court later today.
Police believe the gang surrounded the van, smashed its windscreen and dragged the Pakistani brothers out after an argument broke.
The brothers were then stabbed and died later at St George's Hospital. A third man, the driver of the van, was uninjured.
In total, 13 men have been arrested over the double murder, six of whom remain in police custody.
Detectives want to speak to anyone who was near Fircroft Road or Upper Tooting Road just after midnight on Saturday morning.
Anyone with information should call the incident room 020 8721 4155 or Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555 111.
http://www.thisislocallondon.co.uk/display.var.741717.0.two_in_court_over_murder_of_brothers.php
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Cares
26.04.2006 18:47
ali
TAMILS NOT REALTED TO STABBINGS IN TOOTING MISLEADING FABRICATED ARTICLE ABOVE.
02.05.2006 22:29
Just to clarify the unfortunate events that took place on the early hours of Saturday morning resulting in 2 borthers being butchered to death was the result of soome demented gang of young, predominantley pakistani muslims and this article sugggesting that the media is using this to incite the old age philosophy of divide and conquer is incorrect. As the facts are clear that it is a reality and muslims are fighting one another and this most notorious gang of thugs from the tooting area are to blame! They are in no way what so ever invovled with any tamils and this incident was nothing to do with tamils what so ever so who ever wrote this article is definatley trying to mislaed people to make them shun away from the harsh reality and sorry state of affairs that the muslim community in tooting is breeding. This gang is notorious for running syndicated crime and know to the community at large in the locality for extortiing and kidnapping vunerable members within the community. This gang is know to cause terror in the hearts of the people in the locality and unfortunatley there is many that harboutr and protect them from the eyes of the law. WHAT A SAD STATE OF AFFAIRS!!
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Tooting Boys Are Pakistani
31.05.2006 10:47
Qasim Hassan
e-mail: qasim7uk@yahoo.co.uk
ilford
15.02.2007 15:25
TT
Pundai who the fuck is talkin about ilford boys
15.02.2007 15:38
Hustla P