"There is not a single Islamic group either in the movement or the political groups that is not controlled by (Indonesian) intelligence," he said.
Links between Indonesian authorities and terrorist groups
INDONESIAN police or military officers may have played a role in the 2002 Bali bombing, the country's former president, Abdurrahman Wahid has said.
In an interview with SBS's Dateline program, on the third anniversary of the bombing that killed 202 people, Mr Wahid says he has grave concerns about links between Indonesian authorities and terrorist groups.
While he believed terrorists were involved in planting one of the
Kuta night club bombs, the second, which destroyed Bali's Sari
Club, had been organised by authorities.
Asked who he thought planted the second bomb, Mr Wahid said: "Maybe the police ... or the armed forces."
"The orders to do this or that came from within our armed forces,
not from the fundamentalist people," he says.
The program also claims a key figure behind the formation of terror
group Jemaah Islamiah was an Indonesian spy.
Former terrorist Umar Abduh, who is now a researcher and writer, told Dateline Indonesian authorities had a hand in many terror
groups.
"There is not a single Islamic group either in the movement or the political groups that is not controlled by (Indonesian) intelligence," he said.
He says Hasbi was a secret agent for Indonesia's military intelligence while at the same time a key player in creating JI.
Documents cited by SBS showed the Indonesian chief of military intelligence in 1990 authorised Hasbi to undertake a "special job".
A 1995 internal memo from the military intelligence headquarters in Jakarta included a request to use "Brother Fauzi Hasbi" to spy on Acehnese separatists in Indonesia, Malaysia and Sweden.
And a 2002 document assigned Hasbi the job of special agent for
BIN, the Indonesian national intelligence agency.
Security analyst John Mempi told SBS that Hasbi, who was also known as Abu Jihad, had played a key role in JI in its early years.
"The first Jemaah Islamiah congress in Bogor was facilitated by Abu Jihad, after Abu Bakar Bashir returned from Malaysia," Mr Mempi said.
"We can see that Abu Jihad played an important role. He was later found to be an intelligence agent. So an intelligence agent has been facilitating the radical Islamic movement."
Hasbi was disembowelled in a mysterious murder in 2003 after he was exposed as a military agent and his son Lamkaruna Putra died in a plane crash last month.
Another convicted terrorist, Timsar Zubil, who set off three bombs in Sumatra in 1978, told the program intelligence agents had given his group a provocative name - Komando Jihad - and encouraged members to commit illegal acts.
"We may have deliberately been allowed to grow," he said.
Abduh also told the program his terrorist organisation, the Imron Movement, was incited to a range of violent action in the 1980s when the Indonesian military told the group that the assassination of several Muslim clerics was imminent.
Another terrorism expert, George Aditjondro, said a bombing in May this year that killed 23 people in the Christian village of Tentena, in central Sulawesi, had been organised by senior military and police officers.
"This is a strategy of depopulating an area and when an area has been depopulated - both becoming refugees or becoming paramilitary fighters - then that is the time when they can invest their money in major resource exploitation there," he said.
Related:
Inside Indonesia's War on Terror
Don't say we didn't tell you so: very damming reports on TNI and POLRI in involvement in terrorism
SBS DATELINE
Archives - October 12, 2005
Inside Indonesia's War on Terror
Today - as you would almost certainly know - is the third anniversary of the first Bali bombing and our major report tonight provides an alarming twist to the ongoing terror campaign being waged in Indonesia. David O'Shea, a long-time "Indonesia-watcher", reports that where terrorism is concerned in that country - with its culture of corruption within the military, the police, the intelligence services and politics itself - all is never quite what it seems. REPORTER: David O'Shea
More:
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2005/10/97148.php
In an interview with SBS's Dateline program, on the third anniversary of the bombing that killed 202 people, Mr Wahid says he has grave concerns about links between Indonesian authorities and terrorist groups.
While he believed terrorists were involved in planting one of the
Kuta night club bombs, the second, which destroyed Bali's Sari
Club, had been organised by authorities.
Asked who he thought planted the second bomb, Mr Wahid said: "Maybe the police ... or the armed forces."
"The orders to do this or that came from within our armed forces,
not from the fundamentalist people," he says.
The program also claims a key figure behind the formation of terror
group Jemaah Islamiah was an Indonesian spy.
Former terrorist Umar Abduh, who is now a researcher and writer, told Dateline Indonesian authorities had a hand in many terror
groups.
"There is not a single Islamic group either in the movement or the political groups that is not controlled by (Indonesian) intelligence," he said.
He says Hasbi was a secret agent for Indonesia's military intelligence while at the same time a key player in creating JI.
Documents cited by SBS showed the Indonesian chief of military intelligence in 1990 authorised Hasbi to undertake a "special job".
A 1995 internal memo from the military intelligence headquarters in Jakarta included a request to use "Brother Fauzi Hasbi" to spy on Acehnese separatists in Indonesia, Malaysia and Sweden.
And a 2002 document assigned Hasbi the job of special agent for
BIN, the Indonesian national intelligence agency.
Security analyst John Mempi told SBS that Hasbi, who was also known as Abu Jihad, had played a key role in JI in its early years.
"The first Jemaah Islamiah congress in Bogor was facilitated by Abu Jihad, after Abu Bakar Bashir returned from Malaysia," Mr Mempi said.
"We can see that Abu Jihad played an important role. He was later found to be an intelligence agent. So an intelligence agent has been facilitating the radical Islamic movement."
Hasbi was disembowelled in a mysterious murder in 2003 after he was exposed as a military agent and his son Lamkaruna Putra died in a plane crash last month.
Another convicted terrorist, Timsar Zubil, who set off three bombs in Sumatra in 1978, told the program intelligence agents had given his group a provocative name - Komando Jihad - and encouraged members to commit illegal acts.
"We may have deliberately been allowed to grow," he said.
Abduh also told the program his terrorist organisation, the Imron Movement, was incited to a range of violent action in the 1980s when the Indonesian military told the group that the assassination of several Muslim clerics was imminent.
Another terrorism expert, George Aditjondro, said a bombing in May this year that killed 23 people in the Christian village of Tentena, in central Sulawesi, had been organised by senior military and police officers.
"This is a strategy of depopulating an area and when an area has been depopulated - both becoming refugees or becoming paramilitary fighters - then that is the time when they can invest their money in major resource exploitation there," he said.
Related:
Inside Indonesia's War on Terror
Don't say we didn't tell you so: very damming reports on TNI and POLRI in involvement in terrorism
SBS DATELINE
Archives - October 12, 2005
Inside Indonesia's War on Terror
Today - as you would almost certainly know - is the third anniversary of the first Bali bombing and our major report tonight provides an alarming twist to the ongoing terror campaign being waged in Indonesia. David O'Shea, a long-time "Indonesia-watcher", reports that where terrorism is concerned in that country - with its culture of corruption within the military, the police, the intelligence services and politics itself - all is never quite what it seems. REPORTER: David O'Shea
More:
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2005/10/97148.php 
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Utter rubbish!
14.10.2005 08:41
Indonesian ex pat
Fantasy
14.10.2005 09:13
Can the concipracy theorists at least come up with a few new ones. How about shape shifting aliens, we haven't had them for a while
Almost too stuid a post to comment on... almost
... 2 defining questions ...
14.10.2005 16:31
2. Are you at all aware of Indonesias past ... brutal & bloody ... and the part the current power players had in it?
jackslucid
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la la
14.10.2005 17:22
I am nutter
ok
14.10.2005 18:23
dr k
I'm a stupid arse
14.10.2005 23:33
I'm terminally paranoid and I support terrorists. I think this post is great and if you email me I can tell you where to go to find some barely legal teens.
Jordan Thornton
Al-Zarqawi on a flying carpet..
17.10.2005 20:29
It's a fact that former president Wahid told in an Australian SBS production that he believes there's military / government involvement in the attacks. And don't tell me you (with the nitwit comments) are in a better position to know about what's going on in Indonesia then he is. Anybody who seriously knows anything about the good 'secular' government and military of Indonesia (and their CIA buddies)cannot rule Wahid's version out.
And for another one: what evidence did you see for the original conspiracy plot? With idiot Amrozi being sent out shopping for explosives and getting home with the military grade stuff from the local market?. And when captured and being presented to the international media waving to and joking with the police.. I bet the clearvoyant non-conspiracy nuts already know what happened without ever seeing any evidence.
And for the latest Bali attack. Why was first reported that 3 bombs didn't go off because the mobile phone networks were shut down after the initial explosions?. And later the bombs were supposedly being detonated by suicide bombers.. With both reports coming from Indonesian police.
Balkenende
Ach Wheesht Man
18.10.2005 08:38
Anyway, me ol' mate, the point I merely wanted to make in passing was that - contrary to your suggestion - there's been little or no defence of our Indonesian friends. We all know they're dodgy. We know about the invasion of the Timorese. We know that they executed journalists to avoid reports of what they were up to. So stop trying to make out we've all been up in arms at the suggestion that they may have had a hand in it.
Big Bad Boab fae Bathgate
No oxymoron here
18.10.2005 15:06
balk
Oh Balkie
18.10.2005 22:12
I think you need to take a look at this:
The problem isn't that conspiracies don't exist; clearly some must. The problem is that the conspiracists can't back up almost any of what they say. When that happens, we'll believe you all.
Observer
whoppa
19.10.2005 08:51
Same here: Wahid's claims are rejected based on believe not by evidence of the contrary. The whole subject is linked to conspiracies and then rejected without ever going into the details. I cannot judge Wahid claims, even have not seen the documentary yet, but I do take note of his opinion and do not rule it out at all. Wahid's claims would to my opinion resolve some strange issues surrounding the attacks. Like Taiwan was warned 1 day ahead of the attack by the US and told to keep that 'secret'. The strange behaviour of Amrozi who obviously is retarded, the lack of publicly known evidence etc. And who gained from these attacks?, the Muslims with fundamentalist interpretations? Bin Laden? Why always suicide bombers, even when it is unnecessary?
balk
Interesting
31.10.2005 12:10
Well this is interesting... I personally think our jonny boy is part of the NWO (New World Order).
Just of topic what about the london bombing 'Exercise'
the news clip is here:
Interesting times!
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Mike
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