Middlesex Uni SU Pres frogmarched off campus

GOOD MORNING FASCISM!!!! | 22.09.2005 13:49 | Education | Repression | London

Keith Shilson, President of Middlesex University Students Union was frogmarched off campus by private security guards yesterday. His student place has been indefinitely suspended in what is believed to be the first disciplinary action since Ruth "you can only talk to muslims we approve of" Kelly, Minster of Corporatised non-Education called on campuses to stop all contact with non-approved muslims.

Keith Shilson's expulsion from the campus came after the SU refused to bow down to the Universities demands that it cancel a Q&A session with the Hizb ut-Tahrir group which war criminal Blair has stated he intends to proscribe. The Middlesex SU had overturned an NUS ban on the group, and insisted that the principle of free speech was at stake.

According to Guardian Education:

"In a statement today, the union said: "In light of recent events and the press releases from MUSU [the student union] and Middlesex University regarding the invitation to Hizb ut-Tahrir for a debate at the Hendon campus. Middlesex University student union has withdrawn its invitation to the speakers of the debate and the debate is cancelled.""

http://education.guardian.co.uk/students/news/story/0,12891,1574957,00.html

There was once a time when university students were encouraged to inform themselves of a range of views before deciding where they stood in a debate.

In the 21st Century, even as we plunder Iraq, rape Afghanistan, support Israel , and threaten Iran, the range of views that students are allowed to consider is decided by the state, university administration, corporate interests and popular media.

INDEPENDENT THOUGHT IS SUBSERSIVE.

THE STATE KNOWS WHO IS DANGEROUS AND WILL PROTECT YOU.

GOOD MORNING FASCISM!!!!

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Mus

22.09.2005 14:52

I am against the banning of hitz ut tahir,but dont forget its a middle class run of religious exculsivists.Opus dei without the anal buggery.

Mr Lustbather

A piece of green and white paper

22.09.2005 17:27

When we were somewhat older kids, we were introduced to the idea of graphing a straight-line trend- more correctly called linear interpolation.

Anyway, here was the cleverly pre-printed green and white paper, now with our two axes, and a whole series of X's marking each new measurement. The magic came with the understanding that a line could be drawn through the collection of points, identifying a trend, and detailing a relationship.

Do we know where we are going? How many X's do we have to collect from life, before we accept the trend, and what it predicts for our future?

This is Satan's graph. The line passes through the here-and-now, and ends up in HELL. The funny thing is, people throw themselves down in front of the progression, like that Chinese kid with the tanks, but the line keeps on going, piercing each new day without fail, bleeding ever drop of hope from yet another mark on life's time axis. The interpolation of Blair's relationship with Hell and the Human Race is remorseless. Each new X he burns onto the graph of our fate strengthens the trend, and holds the line true. And as the trend becomes so certain that it would be marked in blood's red iron, rather than the Earth's cautious grey carbon, even if we combine our love to force a result that lies far from hell's hard line, that result will be called an anomaly and discarded along with the last of our dreams.

You could say that things are going from bad to worse. Love to hate. Heaven to Hell. We plotted our graph so we didn't have to say anything, but instead owned a mathematical illustration of the relationship between the days of our lives, and the tears that we will shed.

twilight

open debate

22.09.2005 17:32

"There was once a time when university students were encouraged to inform themselves of a range of views before deciding where they stood in a debate."

Hmm... where did "no platform for fascists" fit into that? I also seem to remember people like Hans Eysenck being stopped from speaking because of their supposed association with right-wing views, even though no-one (I think) claimed he had links with real fascist political groups. When I was a student in the early 1970's there was controversy over a speaker with IRA links.

I find this one v. difficult. But there needs to be an avoidance of double-standards.

PaulB

TWILIGHT,CASE FOR TREATMENT

22.09.2005 18:05

Are you taking the piss or are you serious twilight,if you are serious with that thick slice of pretentiousness , i will get gita sereny to do a case study on you.

Mr Lustbather

Cry me a river

23.09.2005 03:33

I don't know what it is with university students. My guess is that they're so bored with how their pathetically shallow, empty middle class lives have been so far that they have to latch onto any cause that comes along. Now that communism isn't chic anymore the agitators have to pander to muslim terrorists. The trouble is they can't even see what a pathetic joke they've turned themselves into.

So the troublemaker got excluded. Boo hoo. Perhaps he'll think twice before trying to break university rules. If you don't like the way your university does things you have a simple choice - shut up and put up with it, or leave.

As for twilight, he's either a troll, on drugs or needs sending to a lunatic asylum.

Humpty Dumpty

Sometimes Trolls unintentionally reveal stuff

23.09.2005 07:21

Humpty Dumpty having bemoaned the "pathetically shallow, empty middle class lives" of students (of course 100% of students are middle class and Humpty Dump isn't a prejudenced twat) then outlines the corporate academy approach to information:

" If you don't like the way your university does things you have a simple choice - shut up and put up with it, or leave."

So, what will students who follow that approach have learnt? Ignore injustice, trust authority, put your head down and take no responsibility for the world about you.

They might as well stay home and read the Daily Mail like he does.

Homeland Security

Humpty Dumpty

23.09.2005 10:17

2 choices: Shut up and put up with it, or leave? What a bizzarre simplification.

DBLondon

Re: Homeland Security

23.09.2005 13:33

I realise that not all students are middle class, but the vast majority are and it's those who tend to have their heads stuck up their arses, endlessly worrying about whatever trendy cause it is in Tibet, Palestine, Chechnya, ect. And as for "taking responsibility for the world around them", what a joke. All these students do is attend a few protests when they're bored. Then when they graduate they're more than happy to completely forget about their causes when they get a cushy job in a multinational corporation. It's all rather immature and pathetic. If these students showed that they felt any genuine responsibility for the world around them then they would be doing something to make our own community a better place. They could act practically - to help alleviate some of the social deprevation that's suffered in Britain all the time, but instead they faff around in the debate club or whatever the hell 'politically aware' students do.

These students don't have a social conscience, they just pretend to. If they had one they'd be doing something practical rather than acting like we're still in the 60s.

Humpty Dumpty

Humpty Dumpty

23.09.2005 15:54

Congratulations, it seems that you have spoken to many politically aware students and fairly assessed their characters. Well done for the shrewd observation that students all go on to work for multinationals and only attend lectures when they are bored. I'm glad that you don't resort to cliches and stereotypes in your postings.

However you imply that if a cause is trendy (perhaps read current?) or in a foreign country it is somehow less important. Is this really what you believe?

I am not a student anymore, and I did not go on to work for a multinational, but I am interested in your quick tips on how we could act practically to alleviate social deprivation in our communities. Please tell me more.

DBLondon

posting from NYC Indymedia - working class students protest!

23.09.2005 18:22

here is a posting from the NYC Indymedia, this is how you protest...also, don't make the assumption that people are "middle-class" there is no "middle class" you are either rich or working class. It is the rich students with to much time and money on their hands who end up organizing a lot of university protests...so the rich kids end up deciding what gets protested, who protests, who is invited to the protest etc.

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Bronx Students Protest Metal Detectors

Students from DeWitt Clinton High School in the Bronx blocked traffic and marched almost two miles.

Bombs and Shields
Bronx, New York, U.S. - Nearly 1/3 of all 4,600 students from DeWitt Clinton High School in the Bronx blocked traffic and marched almost two miles to the borough's Department of Education offices, to protest new regulations which require students to pass through metal detectors before entering the school and barred them from leaving campus during lunch. The metal detectors were installed as a way to deal with violence which is reported to be almost five percent higher at DeWitt Clinton than the citywide average. Students countered that most of the fights that occurred on school grounds happened outside where individuals would not be subject to searches.

Monday was the first day students were forced to submit to metal detector searches which caused an hour long delay. Many of the students who attended the protest said that the school was treating them like prisoners. Despite those concerns some student representatives were granted a meeting with administrators where they negotiated for a promise of more metal detectors to ease delays on entering the building. Students returned to classes with a wait and see attitude.

By JANON FISHER (NY Times)
Published: September 20, 2005

Complaining that they were being treated like inmates, some 1,500 students from DeWitt Clinton High School in the Bronx marched nearly two miles to the borough's Department of Education offices yesterday to protest the use of metal detectors at the school and not being allowed off campus during lunch.

The three-hour protest snarled traffic on streets between the school, on West Mosholu Parkway, and the department's offices in Fordham Plaza. No one was arrested. [Read More at Bombs and Shields]

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American Anarchist

My advice

24.09.2005 01:03

Start ignoring the troll once he gets verbose. He has intentionally said something crude to get you to argue with him.

And yes, Twilight is also a troll... and reveals how genuinely insane this guy is at that!

Blucher