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Indymedia ESF Newsblast 1

imc'ista | 22.10.2004 17:25 | European Social Forum | Globalisation | Indymedia | Social Struggles | London

Indymedia UK ESF NEWSBLAST #1

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Indymedia UK ESF NEWSBLAST #1

This is a listing of some of the reports posted around the European Social Forum and the Autonomous Spaces in London, October 2004.

There were still serious problems with the Indymedia webserver after the seizure of the servers in London, so many people had problems posting reports. If you have unublished reports of events please post them to Indymedia or to the text reporting database @  http://www.efcr2004.net/forum-comment

This listing is not complete, there's still a lot of content to come in and be tracked down - another updated version will be released soon including links of other media coverage.

Don't hate the media - be the media!

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 http://solidarity.indymedia.org.uk

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The Assembly of the Social Movements Call
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299520.html

Final Text on official esf website
 http://www.fse-esf.org/en/esf.shtml?x=2234

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MAJOR ESF REPORT PAGES ON INDYMEDIA UK:

Indyemdia UK Precis Feature
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299642.html

Indymedia UK ESF Section
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/actions/2004/esf

IMC ESF Thursday Reports
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299023.html

IMC ESF Friday Reports
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299082.html

IMC ESF Saturday Reports
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299218.html

IMC ESF Sunday Reports
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299328.html

Also see:
Indymedia Ireland Feature and Reports
 http://www.indymedia.ie/newswire.php?story_id=67091

Indymedia Belgium Reports [NL] [FR]
[Overview] ESF2004 | London | FSE2004
 http://www.indymedia.be/news/2004/10/89210.php

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GENERAL ESF PICTURES:

Pictures of Alexandra Palace ESF
 http://www.penelopes.org/xarticle.php3?id_article=5480

Belgium Delegation and Registration
 http://www.indymedia.be/news/2004/10/89001.php

First impressions of the ESF
 http://www.indymedia.be/news/2004/10/89017.php

Some more impressions of the ESF
 http://www.indymedia.be/news/2004/10/89048.php

Stalls At Alexandra Palace
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299849.html

Art and Banners At Alexandra Palace
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299837.html

General ESF Pictures
 http://www.indymedia.be/news/2004/10/89149.php

Speaker Portraits
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299886.html

Photos of the speakers at "GM-Free Europe" and
"A Trans-Atlantic GMO Trade War" (+relevant links)
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299868.html

Photos of the speakers at "Developments in Human Genetics " and
"Beyond GM: Nanotechnology in Food and Agriculture" in Bloomsbury (+relevant links)
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299822.html

Photos of the speakers at
"Resisting corporate monopolies and new enclosures",
"Prenatal screening: eugenics or women's rights?" and
"Human cloning and genetic engineering: what's at stake?" in Bloomsbury (+relevant links)
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299809.html

Autonomous Spaces Newspaper Pics
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299293.html
 http://barcelona.indymedia.org/usermedia/image/7/large/1_P1010014.JPG

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INDYMEDIA CENTRE PICTURES

Indymedia Centre @ Camden Centre (pics)
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299194.html

IMC Centre / Indymedia on the streets / Party
 http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2004/10/2727.php

IMC and European Forum On Communictaion Rights
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299664.html

Phone Pics of Indymedia Flags
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299344.html

Have Nots / No Vox Party at IMC (Friday)
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299221.html

Pictures from the Penelopes who worked out of the centre
 http://www.penelopes.org/xarticle.php3?id_article=5488

Indymedia Madiaq Tee Shirt Picture
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/298990.html

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THURSDAY 14TH OCTOBER REPORTS

ESF registration in chaos
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299012.html

PICTURES: Police at ESF registration at Conway Hall
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299690.html

VIDEO: Arrest at ESF Registration
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299038.html

Women's Open Day Autonomous Space
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299140.html

PICTURES: Beyond ESF Autonomous Space
 http://barcelona.indymedia.org/newswire/display/128525/index.php

No Borders Waterloo Action Reports
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299295.html
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299046.html

No Borders Waterloo Action Statement
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299303.html

Pictures: Waterloo station No Borders Action
 http://www.scotland.indymedia.org/newswire/display/953/index.php
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299051.html

Evening Standard: "Protesters to defy Canary Wharf ban"
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299024.html

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FRIDAY 15TH OCTOBER REPORTS

Fairford coach kidnap High Court appeal hearing:
Samba action, police harrassment and arrest
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299094.html

Pictures Outside Royal Courts of Justice
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/regions/london/2004/10/299096.html

G8 Climate Criminals Critical Mass Action Report
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299299.html

European Social Forum Starts!
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299068.html

Canary Wharf Banned Protest Goes Ahead - Report and Pics
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299125.html
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299144.html

Pictures: Global warming G8 protestors halt traffic
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299083.html
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299204.html
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299115.html

Pre-event G8 Climate Criminals Press Release
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299004.html

Evening Critical Mass Ride
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299143.html

Pictures and Report: LAB Action Against CCTV
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299174.html

Tube Party Reports
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299152.html
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299158.html

IMC Breaking News Timeline: Police surround and close off Victoria station after tube party
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299150.html

News of Arrests after Tube Party
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299224.html

Pictures: Tube Party, Reclaiming Public Transport + Repression
 http://barcelona.indymedia.org/newswire/display/128526/index.php

Beyond ESF: Grassroots movements against the Clash of Civilisations Report
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299151.html

Beyond ESF: Caracoles, Zapatismo and the Piqueteros
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299157.html

Beyond ESF: Swapping lives - Social Centres Discussion
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299149.html

Beyond ESF: G8 Scotland Sessions
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299141.html

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SATURDAY 17TH OCTOBER REPORTS

Police Film and Video Autonomous Spaces
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299225.html
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299217.html
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299215.html

Laboratory of Insurrectionary Imagination : Action Reports
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299123.html

Actions Against Consumerism Reports
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299301.html
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299239.html

Street Theatre: 'The Chaps' out in force 'civilising the city'
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299253.html

Worldwide Anti-McDonalds Day - mass leafleting event
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299240.html

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SATURDAY 17TH: INTERVENTION AGAINST KEN LIVINGSTONE / GLA / ESF PROCESS
(otherwise knows as 'storming the palace')

IMC Feature
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299327.html

IMC Breaking News and Timeline
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299268.html

Babels Coordinators Statement, 7pm, October 16 2004
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299292.html

Storming the Palace (report and pic)
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299270.html

Assembly of Social Movements And Anti-Ken Livingstone Intervention
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299281.html

Storming Palace visual report
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299326.html

The storming of the palace - criticism
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299319.html

Middle class white kids playing at politics AKA the anarchists
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299323.html


PICTURES:

Livingstone AllyPally speech replaced by protest
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299272.html

storming the palace (more pics)
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299282.html


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FOLLOWING CONTROVERSY

A letter condemning the takeover of the ESF stage in protest against the lack of democracy of the ESF organsing process was published in the Guardian. It accuses protesters of being white anarchists, denies that the intervention had anything to do with the ESF process and implies a racial attack. Here are some of the letters and exchanges:

Ken Livingstone's Special Advisor Accuses White Anarchists of Racial Violence
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299522.html
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299527.html
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299635.html

REPLY: Anti-Racist Groups Accuse Lee Jasper of Playing 'Race Card' re ESF
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299638.html

Stop using race to smother dissent: another Letter to The Guardian
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299659.html

Collection of Letters sent to the Guardian and other articles
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299711.html

IMC Lancaster Open Letter to the European Anti-Social Forum
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299593.html

Alex Callinicos blames violent "Black Bloc"
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299657.html

GR Scotland tries to capitalise on disruption re G8 Organising
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299895.html

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SUNDAY 17TH OCTOBER - KINGS CROSS DETENTION REPORTS

People detained in king kross ldn, sunday 14:03
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299329.html

Preventitive arrests, police violence
 http://www.globalproject.info/art-2331.html


PICTURES:

75 police at King's Cross surrounding about 15 peaceful protestors
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299333.html

Kings Cross Detention of anti-capitalist block - Pics and Report
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299629.html

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SUNDAY 17TH OCTOBER ESF DEMONSTRATION REPORTS

Report of anti-war march and rally in London October 17th 2004
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299469.html

Photo Essay: A protestor's eye view
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299488.html

Clowns versus Pro Capitalists at Leicester Square
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299369.html

Police Shut Down Bicycle Sound System
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299514.html

VIDEO:
Sunday march, ECF Carnival bus video (1.7mb wmv video)
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299608.html

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SUNDAY 17TH OCTOBER ESF DEMONSTRATION PICTURES

The main ESF demo
 http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2004/10/81750.php

StopWar March and Arrests - Pix and Report
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299427.html

70,000 demonstrate against war in london
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299373.html

Photos from the ESF march / Arrests and Kings Cross / Surveillance
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299424.html

Samba against war in london
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299477.html

Pix of ESF 2004, Sun 17 Oct 04 - Set 1 of 5
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299768.html

Pix of ESF 2004, Sun 17 Oct 04 - Set 2 of 5
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299752.html

Pix of ESF 2004, Sun 17 Oct 04 - Set 3 of 5
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299733.html

Pix of ESF 2004, Sun 17 Oct 04 - Set 4 of 5
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299787.html

Pix of ESF 2004 (Pro-Capitalist Bloc), Sun 17 Oct 04 - Set 5 of 5
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299718.html

Banners and General Demo Pics
 http://www.indymedia.be/news/2004/10/89174.php

Photos from the anti-war march at the end of the ESF
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299560.html

More Demonstrations Pics and Portraits
 http://www.indymedia.be/news/2004/10/89117.php

Diversity at the London ESF demo
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299350.html

Indymedia takes to the streets
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299344.html

Stop The War Demo Pics
 http://www.penelopes.org/xarticle.php3?id_article=5494

Backwards Intelligence Team (FIT surveillance cop piss take)
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299306.html

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SUNDAY 17TH OCTOBER ESF DEMONSTRATION MAIN STAGE AUDIO:

Main Stage: Lee Jasper, Secretary of National Assembly Against Racism speaking on behalf of Ken Livingstone, Mayor of London
MP3 at 1.5 mebibytes (3.18 mins)
AUDIO LINK:  http://www.indymedia.be/uploads/01_jackman.mp3

Main Stage: Venteran Campaigner Bruce Kent
MP3 at 2.6 mebibytes (5.35 mins)
AUDIO LINK:  http://www.indymedia.be/uploads/04_interv.mp3

Main Stage: Ismail Patel, Chairman Friends of Al Aqsa, speaking on Palestine
MP3 at 2.1 mebibytes (4.32)
AUDIO LINK:  http://www.indymedia.be/uploads/03_interv.mp3

Main Stage: Paul Mackney, General Secretary of NATFHE Union
MP3 at 2.5 mebibytes (5.25 mins)
AUDIO LINK:  http://www.indymedia.be/uploads/02_paul_m.mp3

Main Stage: Rose + Maxine Gentle, relatives of Gordon Gentle, a 19-year-old Glaswegian soldier killed in Iraq, plus Tommy Sheridan , Scottish Socialist Party MSP
MP3 at 6.2 mebibytes (13.36 min)
AUDIO LINK:  http://www.indymedia.be/uploads/06_interv.mp3

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SUNDAY 17TH OCTOBER - ARRESTS BACKSTAGE AT ESF DEMO RALLY

Anti- ESF process action at Trafalgar Square report, Sunday, 17th of October
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299355.html

stage storming attemt at Trafalgar square
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299363.html

ESF: arrest at stage at Trafalgar Square - eyewitness report
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299362.html

COBAS Union condemns UK ESF organising committee (swp/sa/gla)
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299610.html

Clown Army Show Solidarity at Charing Cross Police Station
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299356.html

VIDEO: Clown Army Show Solidarity at Charing Cross Police Station
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/rtsp/2004/10/299445.rm

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ARRESTS REPORTS

Arrests reports (at least 8 on sunday, and more from before)
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299581.html
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299417.html

Arrested for 'molotov cocktail' - turnS out to be bottle of whisky
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299508.html

VIDEO
 http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2004/10/2716.php
QuickTime movie at 18.6 mebibytes
 http://radio.indymedia.org/uploads/bottle.bigmovie.mov
QuickTime movie at 9.3 mebibytes
 http://radio.indymedia.org/uploads/bottle.smalmovie.mov

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ADDITIONAL AUDIO: INDYMEDIA RADIO LONDON

Post ESF Show: Wednesday 20th October (58 mins long)
Indymedia Radio London Weekly Show on Resonance FM
 http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2004/10/2725.php

MP3 at 40.1 mebibytes
 http://radio.indymedia.org/uploads/imc_uk_on_resonancefm_20.10.04-96.mp3

MP3 at 13.4 mebibytes
 http://radio.indymedia.org/uploads/imc_uk_on_resonancefm_20.10.04-32.mp3

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ADDITIONAL AUDIO: FROM GENOA TO GUANTANAMO

Human Rights Discussion Held at the IMC - Friday 15th October
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299064.html

Speakers include a campagning journalist , a diaz school (Genoa) survivor, the mother of Tom Hurndall (shot dead by the IDF), the mother of Carlo Guiliani, and one of the UK Guantanamo detainees released this year:
 http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2004/10/2686.php

Introduction audio: MP3 at 10.3 mebibytes
 http://radio.indymedia.org/uploads/01.from_g_2_g_introduction_sky_64kbps.mp3

Diaz_lawyer audio: MP3 at 6.8 mebibytes
 http://radio.indymedia.org/uploads/02.from_g_2_g_diaz_lawyer_64kbps.mp3

Palistine_audio: MP3 at 6.6 mebibytes
 http://radio.indymedia.org/uploads/03.from_g_2_g_palistine_64kbps.mp3

Campaigning_journalist audio: MP3 at 2.8 mebibytes
 http://radio.indymedia.org/uploads/04.from_g_2_g_campagning_journalist_64kbps.mp3

Human_rights_journo audio: MP3 at 6.2 mebibytes
 http://radio.indymedia.org/uploads/05.from_g_2_g_human_rights_journo_64kbps.mp3

Questions_to_the_panel audio: MP3 at 15.6 mebibytes
 http://radio.indymedia.org/uploads/07.from_g_2_g_questions__to_the_panel128.mp3

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ADDITIONAL AUDIO: European forum on communications rights

Raw Stream Archives (patchy):
 http://www.diversity-radio.net/efcr/

Some short excerpts from the audio of the sessions at the Indymedia Centre and European Forum of Communication Rights (www.efcr2004.net) - an autonomous space around the European Social Forum in London, October 2004

1) Gus Hossein - Privacy International on Communication Rights Challenges to civil society post 911 (2.59mins)
 http://radio.indymedia.org/uploads/gus_hussein_ecfr.mp3

2) Indymedia Server Seizure I (2.41 mins)
 http://radio.indymedia.org/uploads/indymedia_servers__silence_free_speech_03_48_57.mp3

3) Indymedia Server Seizure II (1.06 mins)
 http://radio.indymedia.org/uploads/indyemdiaecfr.mp3

4) Corporate Media + Propaganda Against Dissent in UK (4.02 mins)
 http://radio.indymedia.org/uploads/j18_media_attrition_05_30_01-ecfr.mp3

5) Corporate Media and Dissent in Ireland (6.51 mins)
 http://radio.indymedia.org/uploads/imc_ie_and_media_relations_05_30_01-ecfr.mp3

6) Steve Buckley - AMARC - Corporatisation of The Media + Community Media (3.34 mins)
 http://radio.indymedia.org/uploads/steve_buckly_corpotisation_of_media_09_00_02-ecfr.mp3

7) Institute of Race Relations and and Communication Tools + Strategies (4.25 mins)
 http://radio.indymedia.org/uploads/inst._of_race_relations_08_30_01-ecfr.mp3

8) Justice for Janitors and Communication Tools (4.30 mins)
 http://radio.indymedia.org/uploads/justice_for_janators_and_comms_08_30_0.mp3

9) Electronic Security Issues and Politics (5.48 mins)
 http://radio.indymedia.org/uploads/george_on_security_conslut_and_soc_movs_07_30_01-ecfr.mp3

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ADDITIONAL AUDIO: Interview with Marcelo Andrade

(director of "Venezuela Bolivarian: People & Struggle of the 4th World War") 2004-10-15 in Caracas by phone (recorded & uploaded at indymedia ESF-media centre, king's cross, london)
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299160.html

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ADDITIONAL VIDEO:

Gonzalo Gomez - editor and founder of aporrea.org an independent news wire in Venezuela talks about the situation in Venezuela
 http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2004/10/2699.php
MPEG at 36.5 mebibytes (7.06 mins)
VIDEO LINK:  http://radio.indymedia.org/uploads/hands_off_venezuela.mpg

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COMMENTS REPORTS CRITIQUES AND ANALYSIS

Babels Coordinators Statement, 7pm, October 16 2004
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299292.html

MY ESF EXPERIENCE
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299510.html

European Social Forum events - short report and thoughts on lack of media coverage
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299315.html

IMC Solidarity Missing From ESF Assembly of Social Movements Declaration!
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299520.html

Hacking networks of power: Report on the contrast between the 'official' ESF and autonomous spaces
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299318.html

A discussion for the autonomous movement networks about the ESF and the N/europa challenge
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299894.html

The European Social Forum: time to get serious
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299906.html

Precarity: New forms of exploitation, new forms of resistance at Beyond ESF
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299066.html

ESF Coverage - Mainstream & Indymedia Criticism
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299459.html

Anti-SWP posting is killing indymedia
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299450.html

The Trots will destroy ESF
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299602.html

This is all desparately sad. We can not let it end like this.
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299634.html

ESF future: We should go deeper, to find more links between movements
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299343.html

Changes Must be Made for the Next ESF - Greece 2006
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299354.html

Some comments on ESF
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299358.html

Last word from the ESF
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299456.html

Litter at ESF
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299147.html

TUC leader calls for closer links between unions and social movements
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299538.html

General Motors strike - Tues 19 October - European day of solidarity action!
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299330.html
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299243.html

What's Hot and What's Not at the ESF 2004
 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/299291.html

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OTHER REPORTS:

Female Media Network - The Penelopes ESF Reports [FR]
 http://www.penelopes.org/xbreve.php3?id_article=5466

Red Pepper ESF Blog
 http://red-pepper.blogspot.com [EN]

Other Red Pepper Coverage
 http://www.redpepper.org.uk/Oct2004/ESFindex.html

Open Democracy Cover Social Forums
 http://www.opendemocracy.net/debates/debate-6-91.jsp

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