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Michael Moore's "Farenheit" Not So Original

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Moore's "Farenheit 9/11" Info. Already Been Used

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May 20, 2004 -- MICHAEL Moore's anti-Bush film "Fahrenheit 9/11" isn't even original. Two years ago, "9/11: The Road to Tyranny," a real documentary by Alex Jones, had most of the "facts" Moore uses in his scatter-shot diatribe. Jones, who is less interested in making money than the self-aggrandizing Moore, released his film for free on his Web site www.infowars.com, where it drew legions of new fans, including producer Curt Johnson, who is hiring Jones as a consultant on a political action thriller titled "Wake Up."

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Maybe true but

20.05.2004 18:29

Self aggrandizing or whatever, Moore gets to more people and that's what's important. no point sticking to the internet if the majority don't see it Moore will make more people want to see Wake Up and more people perhaps will end up seeing the original you mention because of him. You can't fight the media, you can only be the media. Support is what both need not sniping one at the other.

IMF

A Jones Vs M.Moore

20.05.2004 19:49

has just made most of his really good stuff available on a pay only basis...

most of his stories are lifted word for word
from articles;[no crime in that, per se]

get a news bulletin service via e-mail

on subjects such as

biotech
911
civil liberties
etc...

and you will see that he scans the same web as we do...

in Jones' film he basically hold up a bunch of news paper

clippings to camera and says:
look!-look! it's really happening

curious how we can only trust the press when it suits us!
yet his site is called infowars...

to give him credit he's been on about this shit for years
and knows his stuff...exept of course when he starts
bellowing about mexican immigrants,
and jobs going to China...

takes all sorts...

as for Michael moore
i wonder if heis going to end farenheit 911
with the same crass statement he made at the end of
his last opus...

"well in the end it's all just bowling for columbine..."

what the f**k is that supposed to mean?
will he interview Marylyn Manson AGAIN!

The best way to appreciate how f**ked America is
is to go there

but i guess that ain't such a good idea right now
so w'eel just have to watch the movie version!!!!

mickey moores pet hamster

short memories

20.05.2004 20:48

hope no one forgets Moore backed Wesley Clark (ex-Nato commander who bombed Serbia) for the presidential election race until he pulled out

'by their friends shall ye know them...'

xrichx

SIGH

21.05.2004 09:12

Oh for God's sake. I really despair.

Moore is doing what ALL OF US can only dream of doing- truly helping to rid us of
the most dangerous man on the planet.

So what if you know some dirt on Moore you can dig? WHO CARES!

STOP THIS PETTY SMART-ARSE BICKERING PLEASE.

dear gatekeepers

21.05.2004 10:46

should we accept a watered down revisionist version of history
just because it supposedly comes from the left?..

i don't think so...

and neither do the families of the 911 victims

9-11 inquiry...

about the saudi-laden-flights:

....the commission cleared the government of any
wrongdoing, saying that all of the passengers were
screened by the FBI and other agencies...

The panel did say it had checked all of the names on
the flight manifests against current government watch
lists, and found no matches.

(WRONG: One passenger matched the last name of one of
the "official hijackers". Dale Watson/FBIHQ knew
about EVERY passenger lists. He received the 9/11
lists early in the morning and confirmed this to R.
Clarke.
Watson was also the very same, who okayed the
Laden-Saudi flights)
SOURCES: Craig Unger (laden-lists), others (watson)...

about moussaoui:

...."Contrary to popular belief, Moussaoui did not say
he was not interested in learning how to take off or
land," the report said. "Instead, he stood out
because, with little knowledge of flying, he wanted to
learn how to take off and land a Boeing 747."

WRONG:
According to his (even court-appointed lawyer, Donald
DuBoulay) lawyer and all early reports, Moussaoui was
interested in learning to fly a plane WITHOUT learning
to take-off and land
(SOURCE: VOICE OF AMERICA

http://www.help-for-you.com/news/Dec2001/Dec14/PRT14-46Article.html)

"..."tomorrow is zero hour"...were not references to
the Sept. 11 attacks, but to a military offensive in
Afghanistan....

POSSIBLY A COVER-UP FOR THE NSA

On the "boxcutters":

"... the commission cast doubt on the idea that the
hijackers used box cutters to subdue passengers.
Instead, the panel said it was more likely they used
"Leatherman" utility knives that have multiple tools
and a long, sharp blade that locks into position..."

wow, what a U-Turn ..

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04116/305595.stm

check these out to see what I mean:

911 tape destroyed

http://inn.globalfreepress.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=148

the lost war drill

http://inn.globalfreepress.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=55

the 9-11 power down

http://69.28.73.17/thornarticles/powerdown.html

Flight 11 - The Twin Flight

http://new.globalfreepress.com/article.pl?sid=04/03/14/212247

Bin laden family business how ironic:

http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=18667

sadly, i feel Moore is preaching to the converted...

apparently you can't say that without incurring the wrath of
the cult-like unquestioning followers...

It's dangerous not to question the truth...
even when it looks like it's the way you want to see it...

enjoy the movie ...question the movie...

Captain Wardrobe

Don't Think So

21.05.2004 16:02

It seemed more like they were pointing out that Fahrenheit 9/11 was pushing itself as all orginal and new info., but the info. was already covered in the other documentary and one is free while the other you have to pay for.

From watching Jones in the past year, he's backing up his claims with mainstream news article pieces so people know that at least he can back up his facts which most conspiracy theorists don't do and aren't taken seriously.

John

Alex Jones does not give his stuff away

23.05.2004 11:51

he encourages people to copy the tape and distribute it

where on here is the entire thing available for free?

http://www.infowars.com/videos.html#tyranny

and why are so many conspiracy sites having to
charge subscription and provide member only downloads?

is it?

A: the web hosts / ISP are in cahoots / run by the
very powers that are being attacked
and are giving those who question the big squeeze

B: plain old money
[mind you, people have to eat, y'know!]

C: It makes the material more mysterious-
adding Kudos to very shaky badly thougth out theory?

could it be all three?

victor ace

Alex Jones is right

26.06.2004 23:11

Alex jones is right about everything. All of you who say that he is not credible because of the fact that he uses mainstream don't understand the situation. Through the central banks, the military industrial complex, and the council on foreign relations our media is controlled from the top. This doesn't mean that every single reporter is a conspirator, especially local news, and smaller newspapers. The media just tells us what to think ABOUT not what to think. This basically means that when a reporter digs up something that exposes the new world order conspiracy no funding and resources are given to get the story on every front page and talked about a lot. It is effectively shut down. He doesn't just show news articles either, he shows interviews from the local news at oklahoma city of people telling about how when the ATF showed up after the explosion they told people that they were told not to come into work that day (they were stationed at the building that was destroyed). Also eyewitnesses saying they saw middle-eastern people and federal agents all of the scene before hand. This is backed up by the testimony of federal judge david schippers who warned of iraqi republican guards agents being in oklahoma city before hand and his investigation was shut down. He has been interviewed several times by alex jones and agrees with him. All of these news articles can be viewed at this link

http://www.prisonplanet.com/911.html. Also about a third of his vidoes CAN be viewed at

http://www.prisonplanet.com/video.html all the ones that are marked freeplay can be viewed for free including 9/11 The Road to Tyranny (The NYpost article got it wrong and listed his other website www.inforwars.com). The last person who posteds rationale is lame. I love this one, "When confronted with evidence of a conspiracy thats hard to believe, suggest that the professors, researchers, government and military whistleblowers are all part of a money making conspiracy." This is ridiculous A. not many people believe it anyways so it doesn't make much monty b. these people put a lot of time and effort into doing this and its usually their career so of course they need to make money c. of course you never question michael moore or other people who are making millions off of presenting "the news." by the way he DOES authorize and encourage you to make you copies. I have 5 of his videos that are copies I've never paid for one. Thank you for your time.

Cnote

Moore is part of the Core

10.07.2004 20:05

No shit Sherlock, figure it out my dear Watson he is part of the Cabal.

Judd Poopy

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