So where is the report from last Thursday's demo outside M&S? As a regular attender who didn't make it that week, I looked to indymedia for the news. But nothing. I was assured by VTI people one was posted. Did the taking down of Zionist reponses get too zealous and the whole item get removed? If so, that's a shame. It was bad enough that the chair of the PSC rally on Saturday refused to announce the M&s Picket without indymedia expunging it from history too.
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16.05.2004 18:06
The thread starts here:
Chris
Please clarify
16.05.2004 18:55
Report from M&S Picket seems to celebrate the killing
> of Israeli soldiers: "after the heroic killing of 6
> Zionist soldiers"
>
> It is one thing to report killings, another to
> celebrate them. We certainly would remove a post by
> pro-imperialists celebrating Iraqi deaths -
>
> what does everyone else think should this be hidden?
Agreed, for exactly the reasons you gave above.
A comment should be appended to the article stating why it's been hidden.
VTI don't do themselves many favours, do they.
Except that I don't really get the comparison between the killing of Zionists and that of Iraqis. Surely a better comparison would be with Iragis killing occupying US or UK troops. If you would accept that the Iraqi resistance killing them is legitimate, surely you have to accept that the Palestinian resistance killing Zionist troops is the same. Not having seen the original posting, I can't comment on its phrasing but if it is removed on the basis stated this seems to be wrong.
Rifka
Getting there
16.05.2004 19:15
'Unlike the Iraqi prisoners (or any prisoners for that matter including U.S or British) the killing of Zionist soldiers in combat can reasonably be seen as an heroic act, even though there is nothing heroic of the parading of the bodies afterwards. These people killed were not civilians. They are brutal occupying soldiers of the world's 4th biggest army - armed to the teeth. They have caused untold suffering and misery to the Palestinian people. The Palestinian people are not only right and justified to carry out such missions but against the odds they face it is indeed an heroic act. Such sacrifices against the Nazis where of course heralded by the media in Britain, Russia and the U.S as being heroic and have become folklore. What the Palestinians are fighting against is little different. If any racist Zionists or wishy-washy middle class liberals have a problem with understanding this, then tough.'
However whoever 'Radical Penguin' is I don't think he has anything to do with VTI, whereas 'The inappropriate responder' and 'The voice of reason' are, as you have probably sussed by now, members of Betar Tagar, who attend the Zionist counter picket to the M&S demos.
I dare say that you may hide this thread for being a discussion rather than a news item. I can understand this but it will be a shame as I think that this actually highlights a serious political discussion about different types of 'violence' and different ypes of 'nationalism' even. On anything other than the very personalised scale, it can't be seen in the same terms when oppressed people kill their oppressors as when the oppressors kill the oppressed.
Rifka
legitimate?
16.05.2004 20:25
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