H.M. PIGS / STOP AND WATCH CAMPAIGN

Movement Against the Monarchy | 09.12.2003 17:13 | Anti-racism | Indymedia | London

POLICE STOP AND SEARCH POLICY IS SHITE, THEY FIT UP BLACK AND ASIANS EVERYWHERE/IT'S TIME TO STOP/WATCH/THESE BASTARDS!!!

For years we have known about Police fit ups / Racism / and Brutality in Cop Shops throughout the nation. It's about time these scum pigs saw that we won't walk on by when a Black / White / Asian or any other person who's being Stopped and Searched by the filth in the streets but watch so these racist pigs are not able to plant items like drugs on a person which they have had a habit of doing in several London Boroughs in the past and still do when they can get away with it. Each year when a member of the filth is looking for promotion they are advised to make a large number of arrests to widen their prospects of promotion, and to do this they stop and search Black and Asian youth just for wearing a hooded top or because there is more than four of them together, it is well known by many people who have been fitted up in the street that during a search police officers slide items such as drugs into the pocket of the person they are searching so they are able to make an arrest stick. It is time for the rest of us who know about these tactics the pigs use to..

(1) STOP AND WATCH WHAT'S GOING ON.
(2) TAKE NOTE OF THE PIGS NUMBER AND GET HIS/HER NAME.
(3) GET THE PERSON'S NAME WHO'S BEEN STOPPED AND SEARCHED.
(4) CONTACT A LAWYER IF ANYTHING IS OUT OF THE ORDINARY.
(5) FIND OUT WHICH STATION THEY ARE TAKING THE PERSON TO.
(6) INFORM THE ARRESTED PERSON TO SAY NOTHING UNTIL THEY HAVE SPOKEN TO A SOLICITOR.

An Example

In 2002 just before May Day one of our members was fitted up, and beaten up at Stoke Newington Police Station by several officers including one that he got the name of P.C. Lee Kershaw while unfortunately the camera and video equipment were faulty. It was several hours before our member was allowed to make a telephone call to anyone, and due to threats made by other officers our member started a dirty protest, the police not happy at not being able to have another dig at our member due to his protest decided to call in a local mental health team and had our member sectioned under the mental health act, even though after May 1st our member was released after Doctors could find nothing wrong with him and stated for the record that our member had been a model patient.
The pigs will go to any length to prevent anyone making complaints against them.
P.C. Lee Kershaw and others at Stoke Newington Police Station colluded with Doctors to keep our mate banged up until May Day was over and since this time Homerton Hospital have refused to hand over documents which prove the police asked Doctors to keep our member in custody until the day after May Day. They have simply gotten away with it once again and it's time for us all to change that so it doesn't happen to anyone else.
In 2004 we should make it a point to carry out these basic things when a person the police have stopped, let's give these racist pigs something to think about next year. KILL BILL 2004.
A message to the solicitors who dealt with this matter, why haven't you gotten a court order to make Homerton Hospital hand over the documents so that the victim can persue a claim against the police and the local Health Authroity. That mean you DAWN PELLE your the solicitor who said the victim had a case against the police, why hasn't this case been taken up

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Obstruction

09.12.2003 18:35

Planting? Sorry, that just doesnt happen.

Obstruct one of our arrests and spend a night in the cells... nice simple cause and effect there for you.

PSNI GLORY
mail e-mail: PRIDEANDJUSTICE@ENFORCETHELAW.COM

idiot commie tossers

09.12.2003 18:42

Anyone who interferes with a stop and search obstructing an officer in his duty will regret it.

Enforcer

PIG

09.12.2003 18:44

PIG = PRIDE INTEGRITY and GUTS!

ANARCHIST = Animalistic Narcissistic Anti-Reality Civilisation Hating Idiotic Slimy Twats

Enforcer

this is about right and rong.

09.12.2003 22:03

Ha enforcer how long did it take to come up with that? Did you make all three comenst in quick sucession or did you need to go away and think long and hard.

Be assured that if I or any other genuine user of indymedia will do every thing within our ability to assist a victim of racial targeting.

And finaly i will leave you with the worrying thort that all entries are traceable and would provide perfect evidence to put away a bent pig.

resistor

err

09.12.2003 22:25

Nothing bent about it, if someone an obstructs a police officer who is doing his job then they are liable to get dealt with through the usual procedures.

Nobody wants some idiot getting in the way and inflaming the situation and if they do that then they are liable to be arrested.

Also, just because 2 white officers have stopped a black man doesn't mean it is racism, in vast majority of cases it isn't. How do you decide if it is "targetting"? You're using very subjective means there!

Enforcer

stop & search, or fuck off & die?

09.12.2003 22:26

Hmmm... let's see shall we - when the Metropolitan police stopped the stop & search policy, why did black community leaders PLEAD for it to be reintroduced?

Was it, perhaps, because "black-on-black" guncrime skyrocketed?

And although gun crime has increased steadily since 1993, you want stop and search to end? So you can see people begging for it to be reintroduced?

Chris

Stop and search the cops

10.12.2003 05:22

Stop and search is great, but let's use it on everybody. Do you know how many of the recent investigations into paedophilia (operation Ore) concerned people from ethnic minoritues? None. Whereas we all know that several police were implicated.

Let's stop and search middle class, middle-aged white guys, and search their laptops and computers, since the statistical evidence clearly shows that these are the most likely to have commited kiddie porn crime.

PSNI?

10.12.2003 12:58

Perhaps I've got this totally wrong, but from his 'PSNI Glory' I guess we have to assume enforcer is from our own Police Service of Northern Ireland. The PSNI are the only organisation on earth that can make Lisburn Distillery FC look glorious. Almost universally despised by both sides of the community they inherit an atrocious human rights record from the RUC (totally different organisation) and may yet be joined by Sinn Fein bully boys so they can centralise punishment beatings. Is Enforcer struggling for an identity and a target for his hate in these post-ceasefire days?

I have seen many pathetic mercenary acts by dosy cops but the PSNI definitely win the prize. It was while Bush was in N.I. and there was a sit down protest out side the City Hall. It was the sort of thing that had been going on throughout the war- school kids, hippies, mothers, blocking the road. Because Bush was about and the powers that be didn't want any displays of dissent, the riot plods lumbered in all geared up and started dragging people off the road. Lots of wee kids were very brave and linked arms as the tooled up plods started whacking at them. People who would normally have stood at the side were so incensed at the police's behaviour that the protest grew rather than subsided. At one point some riot plod lashed at out a woman, nobody knew why, but the chant went round the crowd "6277 do you beat your wife?" and then "6277 do you have a wife". As disbelief mounted the riot plods were eventually ordered to stand down and, having toally humiliated themselves broken a school boys arm and someone elses ribs, they retreated as we sang 'championes' to celebrate.
Glorious.

Some people hate the police and I can understand why- my first digs in the ribs from a cop came when I was 14. But I don't really see it as a personal thing, most of them just got into it as lower middle class kids who weren't too bright and couldn't find anything better to do with their lives. But being an unthinking mercenary is a pretty undignified way to spend your time. Glorious it aint.

Billie

corruption

10.12.2003 15:10

My father was a Metropolitan Police officer who took early retirement in disgust at the corruption, cynicism and amorality of the force - and he's a racist sexist authoritarian tory voter himself

xenweed

PSNI

10.12.2003 22:16

Whilst I am greatfull for Enforcers support, he is an entirely differant entity to me.

My point still stands.

If you obstruct an arrest, you will yourself be detained.

If you have grounds to think an arrest was unlawful, then I suggest complaints are made re: the usual channels.

We don't stop&search/make arrests without due cause and due process.

There is a little thing called PACE that we all abide by.

You just have to go to a riot and see who the provocation is caused by... militant anti capatalist anarchists.

The police respect the rights of citizens to lawfully and peacefully protest a cause. What we dont like is a bunch of drugged up lunatics wanting a fight, smashing property up and acting like a bunch of nutters, thowing bottles and the like at police lines.

Those sort need to be removed from the streets and put before a court.. and quite rightly when the likes of me and Enforcer are working, thats what happens.

PSNI_GLORY

PACE yourself!

11.12.2003 18:46

"There is a little thing called PACE that we all abide by."

Ha!!! What a load of crap. Police not wearing numbers, being told that you have to give your name when a policeman asks for it (i quoted PACE back at that copper which pissed him off), using force to take your photo...

To say all coppers always abide by PACE and never bend or break the rules ism a naive!

Silver

HM PIGS reply to example given

13.12.2003 19:10

Id like everyone to know the reality of what happened in relation to the example given by the author. Yet what relevance the example given has to a stop and watch campain i really cant see.

I was the officer who detained the person in the article and let me assure you that his detention had nothing to do with the impending May Day protests. He was arrested as a result of a legitimate allegation which i had spent considerable time and effort investigating before even visiting him at his address. He was co-operative and understood fully the reasons for his arrest.

I would very much like to tell everyone the truth behind the events concerning " An Example" but i dont surpose that im permitted to do so. Yet let me tell you this....

Fitted up and beaten up .....
Collusion with the mental health authorities...
Denial of phone calls

It is all a complete pack of lies, and id love to be permitted to let anyone interested know exaclty what the person who was arrested did to end up being dealt with by me in the first place. But i dont surpose im allowed to do that am i, even though the Prosecution of that person is now a matter of Public Record.

After all, I was there throughout his detention and even took him to the Mental Health Unit personally to make sure he got the treatment he apparently needed.

None of what was written in the EXAMPLE is remotely true.

Whoever is responsible for allowing people to post such rediculous and untruthful articles is doing their cause an injustice.
The person who is the subject of this article knows that what he has written is untruthful, he knows why he was arrested, and he alone knows why he chose to destroy a police cell by smearing excrement all over it from top to bottom. I felt sorry for the person, even knowing what he had done to warrant being arrested in the first place. I had no problem with his political beliefs or ideologies, but i do know that he was treated respectfully politely and with dignity. He chose to strip naked in the cell and scream blood curdling obscenities and threats to kill Police Officers at the top of his voice for hours. I was even accused of interfering with his baby child at his flat!

You should have seen the mess he left behind, it was a complete disgrace. Perhaps if he was genuinely mentally unwell then it may have been forgiveable, but it seems that contary to what an Independent Psychiatrist, Police Doctor and a Social Worker thought, he was perfectly mentally balanced. The cleaning team who had to remove the excrement were horrified....

It is not pleasant being named on the internet, but i do know that whatever you folks choose to talk about doesn't interest me very much. I dont want to trade opinions or insults, but the truth behind that example could not be further away from what was printed.

Yours

Lee Kershaw

Lee Kershaw

HM Pigs/stop and watch campaign

16.12.2003 20:53

Ok detective Kershaw, explain this then, how comes whenever my solicitors ask to view tapes from Stoke Newington police station during my custody there in 2002 are told that the equipment was faulty on that day? You know exactly what happened and why I was forced to do exactly what I did. To stop thuggish filth like you from causing another death in custody like so many that have happened to others in that very police station over the years.
Secondly answer this why is it that doctors and the health authority are still to this very day refusing to hand over documents which prove you and your collegues colluded with doctors on Brett ward at Homerton Hospital to keep me confined until after MayDay was over you don't actually believe that those reading your crap actually believe the bollocks your putting out, you actually thought when you searched my home that you had gotten yourself a large fish from the Anarchist movement.
You even gave my partner some crap about me which was never proven and your witnesses from 1997 were totally un-reliable.
Your lot have tried and tried to fit me up many times in the past unsuccessfully I might add and if I want to plaster my living room with posters saying Good Riddence concerning the old parasite Queen mum I can bloody well do so. That's my freedom of expression, my freedom to express my view. You'll obviously will try your luck again in the future and the next time you decide to give me a dig realise this you'll get exactly what you dish out. I listened to all your bullshit at court but you ain't getting it all your way as once this fine is paid legal proceedings will start against those who failed to provide proper book keeping information and kept it away from the court as that evidence would have cleared me of any wrong-doing, that T.R.A. will get what they claim to have paid out to me and once that's sorted I will take you all to the cleaners using the full extent of the law.
To add to the original article while out shopping in Dalston observing a couple of plod who had pulled over a 13 year old Asian boy and searching him even after hearing on their radio's that they were looking for a black youth who had just shop lifted an item from a store, so why pull an asian kid if your looking for a black one? The asian kid had just come out of a record store after buying a cd with the reciept in his hand, being asked what else he'd nicked.
We're not fools here the secret policeman programme showed the nation how deep rooted racism in the police force really is and no matter what you say officer Kershaw calling a person in your custody an Irish bastard because of their background proves your the racist pillock I know you to be so up yours.

Patrick McCrudden

HM.Pigs/stop and watch campaign

17.12.2003 09:46

I know the author of the above article, I went to school with him and know him well, so much so that my father's family treat him like a son, he worked for my father when he ran a mini cab office years ago, and let me say this about the author of the article, whatever he did he did because some other cunt used him for their dirty work and once it came on top they'd grass him up to save their own necks and it was he who went behind bars everytime and he got through it any how he could, no one ever visited him until recently when he was stitched up after doing some person a favour and that person stabbed him in the back.
I remember the author when some nazi wanker started on my dad in his shop and saw exactly what my mate did to him,it was that bad that he had to fuck off out of England for a while and I know that when the cops finally caught up with him they gave him a beating in a Belfast cop shop then returned him to England.
I know what happened with another nazi biker wanker named Baldwin who's family for years used to harass the authors family who I shall now call MAC. Baldwin tried to knief MAC in his area and was disarmed and in the process got cut himself and the cops tried to fit him up for that in 1992.
I also know of the time when Hackney cops tried to clear up all their unsolved back in 1982/83 they arrested MAC on some shit and charged MAC with loads of stuff which he couldn't have done due to him formally being in borstal when all these crimes were committed, the cops took no notice they wanted MAC that badly and once it was all at trial and various witnesses were called including prison staff the cops shit themselves, there was mayhem in the court room and MAC got a large pay out in compensation, Hackney cops have always hated MAC for taking the piss out of them and have gone after him every chance they got which is what happened in 2002 so what MAC committed a little fraud £860 quid, he never harmed anyone in the process and only did it when the people he did the work for decided they were not going to pay him for it and the cops went crazy like he'd robbed the crown jewels, some of you know how that bastard cop went on in court some of you were there watching the proceedings. MAC has never harmed anyone who didn't have it coming to them. The cops hatred for MAC is due to all the slaps they used to dish out on him until he lashed out and put one of them on the floor in the street on Chatsworth road one new years day. You fucking filth turned my mate into the nutcase he is now and now he's fighting back your running scared because MAC is now un-pridictable he could be ok one minute and the next he'd be rucking you tossers. The only bloke I know from Hackney that decked that nazi bastard Derek Beacon in front of his fuckin B.N.P. bouncers while that wanker was still a councillor in Tower Hamlets, you cops have never liked that as you could never find a witness to say he'd done it due to everyone being protestors on the night it happened. When he first moved on to the shit estate he lives on and was training down stairs several of your officers gave him grief including some little former R.U.C. cunt now at Stokey nick who wasn't even showing his number, How can you tell someone to get out of an estate they live on you stupid cunts? Yeh my man was a Guardian Angel with a red beret etc and he joined so he could do there training to deal with wankers like you when you try it on again.
I've had many experiences with you lot at Stokey nick calling me a fucking paki yeh you Kershaw with your blond hair what you think your a fucking German SS you cunt.
Why don't you go and play with yourself you little nazi white boy. Yeh stop and watch wicked idea P. laters..... LUCKS...

Lucks

itshidden

08.04.2006 19:51

pigs r jus fools and fink theyr superior jus coz they ware a gay suit and a toilet for a hat, scum of the earth most unclean devils. all the curses of eternity are on them they jus like to get peeps in trouble coz theyr sad and dont havea life of theyr own.

all i say is im a slave of god and totally will fight ur unlawful, uncivil ignorant laws to the day i die.

peace to all the peeps who fall in to theyr durty white pink cheeked faces and keep fighting against them coz u pigs dont havea life. ur jus bored and wana make money living off other people. ur the real criminals and u all shud be hangd shot and shitted on.

u fux! wotch one day wen mu machine gun arrives theyl be blood i say! real blood but ur blood wont evn be red itl be black like shit. to hell u go gay faggots.

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