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Defence Industry Conference

Paulie T | 12.09.2003 09:14 | Anti-militarism | London

Defence Industry Conference in October - shall we go along to say hello?

Second Defence Industry Conference - The Economist and Jane's Information Group

21 October 2003, Queen Elizabeth II, Westminster, London

Sponsored by: QinetiQ

The path to the future

Following on from the Iraq conflict the defence industry is facing a challenging time. There is a need for the defence industry to evolve, with much weight being put on the importance of partnerships and relationships around the world. This event will bring together senior industry executives and influential defence policy makers with the aim to not only see how to survive the future, but also how to shape it.


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 http://www2.economistconferences.com/doc/we/def03/i.htm

Paulie T

Comments

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Yes this must be a definite protest!

12.09.2003 09:24

There must definitly be a protest there. It is in central London as well so loads more people will attend than traveled to Canning Town for the anti-arms fair protests. Lets inform the Stop The War Coalition of this and make it a massive demo!

Rockwell


Why?

12.09.2003 09:44

Why should we need to inform the STWC? We proved we don't need a bunch of Trots this week and on many occassions before hand. I prefer direct action to ponsy placard waving.

Arthur


Because the STWC can mobilies massive numbers of people

12.09.2003 09:55

If the National Stop The War Coalition had given full support and backing to the anti-dsei protests then they would have been many, many times bigger and we would have been able to shut down the arms fair. The Stop The War Coalition was able to mobilise over 500,000 people for their biggest anti-war demo. If they could have mobilised only 5 per cent of that number for the anti-Dsei protests then we would have easily shut it down!

Rockwell


Trots as DESi

12.09.2003 11:53

Arthur:

They were a few trots at DESi, in the form of GR, and they did a bit, not a massive amount but a bit - which was welcome.

As informing STWC about a proposed DEMO: they read this site, and lots of tis members do, so they can vote with their feet.

STWC are more interested in being in control of theri pown demos and wouldn't normall officially support others. This is backward and reactionary of course, but that's what happens if you have an unacountable leadership working for their own personal interests, and not for the whole movement. But these sort of organisations dissapear because the membership/supporters realsie what is going on, and leave.

This is a shame but a fact.

Dr fact


glad someone spotted this

12.09.2003 12:40

so it saves me having to do it !!! certainly, if the money-swilling arms peddlers can regroup so quickly, then so should we. you forgot to mention that ''cluster bombs'' paul beaver will be chairing the meeting. NOW, a word to our critical commentators; can we please, please stop this repuhgnant 'trot-bashing'. some of your remarks read like a transcript from a stalin show-trial, thus not very nice and, rather vindictive. in fact, the only radical party that sets out to enforce a pro-labour stance against other groups is the SWP. none of the others do, as far as im aware, and many trotskyist groups do not support labour at all. i know trotsky was perhaps a bit too harsh on the anarchists, but many modern-day ''trots'' would quietly admit that.

glad


Reply

12.09.2003 16:17

In your own words you said "If the STWC had been involved.." etc,etc... Well they weren't were they, why? Because its not yet on their agenda! Serious bloody issues like this one are rarely covered by the SWP/STWC unless its big enough for them to recruit people. You mention the 2 million march...for a revolutionary party to be able to mass that amount of people on the streets of London and then everyone goes home in time for tea just sums them up. Useless. They are about ego's and hierarchies..nothing else. It's time people got off their backsides and stopped relying on outdated relics to organise for them...we can do it ourselves.

Arthur


count me in

12.09.2003 20:49

just a few points:
one person who disagreed with the idea that had the stwc mobilised for dsei then it would/could have been closed.......a socialist worker paper seller, rathbone market 4.15 weds. afternoon.
dsei takes place every two years......the excel centre is a legitamate target between now and then.
over the next two years any or all of the exhibitors this years dsei will be a target for acts of randomness. we know who they are.
the arms industry should supercede oil as the primary target in the war against capitalism.
given that the armed forces will inevitably (today or tommorow) face the weapons of war sold this last week.......it shouldn't be too hard to get them on side.
viva la revolucion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

nobody in particular


send them email

13.09.2003 18:31

this innocently named Jane's group is a warehouse of dsei - send bastards your message:

Jane’s Information Group [url]www.janes.com[/url]
[email] info@janes.co.uk[/email]
[email] techsupport@janes.co.uk[/email]
[email] customer.feedback@janes.co.uk[/email]
 peter.felstead@janes.co.uk
[email] sara.waddington@janes.co.uk[/email]
[email] kathryn.shaw@janes.co.uk[/email]
[email] lynne.samuel@janes.co.uk[/email]
[email] simon.michell@janes.co.uk[/email]
[email] janine.boxall@janes.co.uk[/email]
[email] mike.bryant@janes.co.uk[/email]
[email] mike.gething@janes.co.uk[/email]
[email] mark.daly@janes.co.uk[/email]
[email] clifford.beal@janes.co.uk[/email]
[email] craig.hoyle@janes.co.uk[/email]
[email] robin.hughes@janes.co.uk[/email]
[email] darren.lake@janes.co.uk[/email]
 idr@janes.co.uk
 mike.foster@janes.co.uk
 melissa.golding@janes.com
 stephen.wrigley@janes.co.uk
 defadsales@janes.co.uk
 jir@janes.co.uk
 order@janes.com
 fasttrack.info@janes.co.uk
 christopher.morris@janes.co.uk
 katherine.simmons@janes.co.uk
 eliza.hinds@janes.co.uk
 kate.gibbs@janes.co.uk
 stephen.wrigley@janes.co.uk
 administrator@janes.co.uk
 Kumar.Guhan@janes.co.uk
 paul.ricketts@janes.co.uk
 david.ward@janes.co.uk
 oni.taha@janes.co.uk
 mark.daly@janes.co.uk
 fay.lenham@janes.co.uk
 ads@janes.co.uk
 johan.ingles@janes.co.uk
 james.macinnes@janes.co.uk
 jdw@janes.co.uk
 antonia.lourdas@janes.co.uk
 janes.webmaster@janes.co.uk

They have some smaller office in town: The Quadrangle, 180 Wardour Street, London, W1F 8FY
 stephen.wrigley@janes.co.uk

their executive board is
[URL= http://www.janes.com/company/about/boardofdirectors.shtml]here[/URL] - the name with jane's domain janes.co.uk might give email address.


Jane's group organises as well [URL= http://www.janes.com/security/conference/police2003/overview.shtml]Police Review Gala Awards 2003[/URL] with David Blankett and 'cop of the year' at Merchant Taylor's Hall 30 Threadneedle St EC2R 8JB

their pig section:
 catriona.marchant@janes.co.uk
 ian.francis@janes.co.uk
 paula.allen@janes.co.uk
 stuart.mulraney@janes.co.uk
 tina.orr-munro@janes.co.uk
 syreeta.lund@janes.co.uk
 louise.powell@janes.co.uk
 lyndon.white@janes.co.uk
 anna.kew@janes.com
 conference@janes.co.uk
 tracy.attwooll@janes.com
 phil.humphreys@janes.co.uk
 darren.loughnane@janes.com
 ian.barrett@janes.com
 wendy.thomas@janes.com

nomoney


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