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As the Socialist Alliance is wrecked...where next?

Alliance for Workers' Liberty, part of the Socialist Alliance | 24.07.2003 13:51 | Analysis | Social Struggles | London

As the Socialist Alliance (England) is wrecked (by the SWP, oh yes), where now for its other constituent parts and non-SWP members? Here, a view from Workers' Liberty, one of the groupings which founded the Socialist Alliance, long before the SWP decided to get involved. The leaflet argues that any "new SA grouping" cannot be built on "anti-SWP negativism" but only on positive politics and fair, transparent and acceptable methods of operating.


Comrades in the Alliance for Workers' Liberty have helped set up a political platform to promote ideas about political representation.

The statement of the "Network for Working-Class Representation" can be found at:
 http://www.independentsocialistalliance.net

The contribution to the discussion is attached here as a PDF; it can also be read as plain text at:
 http://www.workersliberty.org.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=1135

Alliance for Workers' Liberty, part of the Socialist Alliance
- e-mail: office@workersliberty.org
- Homepage: http://www.workersliberty.org

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Good to hear!

24.07.2003 16:19

"new SA grouping" cannot be built on "anti-SWP negativism"


Glad to hear it, I assume thats why only 95% of your leaflet is attacking the Swuppies.

I have always though if you groups are so great and the SWP so terrible, why are they 100 times bigger than you?

Sonic


eh?

24.07.2003 20:10

eh "sonic"?

you must have read a different leaflet.

and even if "95%" of it was "attacking the swuppies", then that *might* have something to do with the SWP trampling all over the rules, constitution etc. of the alliance causing it to be on the verge of total collapse.- it isn't the fault of anyone else.

and on your other comment re an "unrepresentative majority" and "democracy"; then i'd wonder if it was so democratic to pack an AGM with 30 people who admitted a) having no idea of what the alliance was about; b) what the jobs are about for which they were candidating; c) knew exactly who to vote for in the AGM en masse without any discussion or introduction, voting all for the same people; d) and the vast majority of whom had signed up to the alliance in the previous 7 days, most of which had joined 2 days before the AGM.

as a component organistion of the alliance, why hadn't all these SWPers and their mates been members of the SA beforehand anyway?

(if the SWP has 10,000 members like it says it has, why has the SA only got a couple of thousand. just a thought)

claudia


What to wreck next

24.07.2003 20:55

I have a great idea what you can wreak next how about my new car then i can claim the
insurance ,shouldnt you in the SA sort out your spat in private than bothering us tele and radio stars who want some real news.
yours henry kellly bow tie

henry kelly


Oh I see!

25.07.2003 10:11

It's one person one vote, unless of course they are not part of your little gang, in which case they are to ignorant to get a vote?

As for them organising beforehand, imagine, political organisations getting together and deciding who to vote for, there is no way you would ever do that is there!

Sonic


where next for the SA

25.07.2003 12:46

Maybe the next step for the SA is to go to button moon makes sense
there maybe people there who want to hear your infighting .
will you squabble and fallout ,bliars and the big business consolidate
there power with a growing control of whats left of a public owned resources
that gap between the rich and poor in this country is the highest its ever been .
Some cities are starting to look like third world.billions of people live way bellow
starvation .get your act together england.

MR SPOON
mail e-mail: mrspoon@buttonmoon.co.mo


to the hedgehog sonic

25.07.2003 16:44

sonic, what do you reckon the chances of all these new members, who clearly are gonna be top people as they only sign up especially for an AGM, thats the kind of people we need to change the world, right, ain't it - anyway whats the chances of them doing anything in the SA in birmingham or elsewhere. or is it (as i suspect) now toally dead.

stefan


Truth

30.07.2003 13:41

Sonic: the problem wasnt with new people joining it was that they had obviously been signed up literally the day before to hammer through a witch hunt of non-swp members in bham...the point now is that the SA is much diminished...

Bham SA Member


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