Hello there activist people of all colors and sizes from around the Globe.
I just read an article about "oppsing the London olympic bid" and couldn't
come up with any reason for doing so and was thinking that perhaps one of you could enlighten me.
Yes, I admit that it will cost money, but do you honestly think that money would
be otherwise spent on "good" causes??? I doubt that very much in today's Britain.
And wouldn't it also bring temprary work for a tens of thousands unemployed people??
But then again (and I know you hate me for saying this) not many of the activists that
I have met want to do any work.
Also the Olympic Village houses as far as I know are planned to be given as "Affordable Housing" after the games....isn't also a good thing???
And London is a city which needs it's tourism, would Olympic Games be about the best
thing that could happen to London in that regards??
And to get the Games, London needs to improve their public transport, which lets face it
needs a LOT of improvement (knowing from expererience).
So please, please. do tell me why you are so opposed to the London Olympic Bid???
I am very much looking forward to hearing from you, and try to use civil language...I do so hate it when people rant at me...
Anyways, hope you are all having a good time and enjoying whatever it is that you were
doing before reading this Email.
X-it Spook
I just read an article about "oppsing the London olympic bid" and couldn't
come up with any reason for doing so and was thinking that perhaps one of you could enlighten me.
Yes, I admit that it will cost money, but do you honestly think that money would
be otherwise spent on "good" causes??? I doubt that very much in today's Britain.
And wouldn't it also bring temprary work for a tens of thousands unemployed people??
But then again (and I know you hate me for saying this) not many of the activists that
I have met want to do any work.
Also the Olympic Village houses as far as I know are planned to be given as "Affordable Housing" after the games....isn't also a good thing???
And London is a city which needs it's tourism, would Olympic Games be about the best
thing that could happen to London in that regards??
And to get the Games, London needs to improve their public transport, which lets face it
needs a LOT of improvement (knowing from expererience).
So please, please. do tell me why you are so opposed to the London Olympic Bid???
I am very much looking forward to hearing from you, and try to use civil language...I do so hate it when people rant at me...
Anyways, hope you are all having a good time and enjoying whatever it is that you were
doing before reading this Email.
X-it Spook
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Could be redolent of 1933
17.07.2003 21:37
dh
Why London?
18.07.2003 05:51
John
a not too short and and slightly interweaving rant!
18.07.2003 14:48
there is a richness and much diversity regarding the culture and peoples of the east end. poor but very much together.
seeing the orthodox jew living amongst the the muslim of many counties, asians beside black (be they carribean or african descent). spanish, portuguese, french, italian polish, south american, you name its.
squatting is tolerated (to a large degree) and travellers of all types abound.
encroaching upon two boroughs (tower hamlets and hackney), the square mile overspills, yuppified, with indigineous (ie. the poor) displaced.
The docklands, shoreditch and aldwych already lost to money and with the olympics you add in stratford, hackney wick, homerton and bow. the very epicentre of the east end, which to many an almost spiritual home.
london is the only uk city with any sense of credibilty to be able to host the games. yes i know, glasgow and manchester, but lets be honest... they just don't compare.
for one they are removed from THE centre of population (which could well be oxford!!). half the population live in or around............ well.......LONDON actually. (surrey, hampshire, kent, essex, herts, oxon, berkshire, bedfordshire etc. etc.)
and whilst it is true that most northern folk are nice and friendly, some can reveal an awful sense of intolerance at times(how many bnp wankers elected? been to barnsley lately?).
and wouldn't it be nice to keep the roads up here (as i'm now in the north, at home!) with less congestion and reduce that which exists in the east end (hackney is readily recognised as the inner city borough with the shittiest public transport network, though the soon to come east london line extension is already driving up house prices beyond local reach) cos further investment in public transport will follow exactly where its needed. well for london at least.
yer, like all big cities london is dirty and smelly, and birmingham has more canals than venice. but so what. ever lived near t' pit, or the steelworks. or how's bout the farm with its chemical abunddance.
ironically the smelliest place i ever lived is also the norths most affluent. mobberley in cheshire; a millionaires idylic. you'd be suprised how much kerosene is ditched by planes that are landing, and of course on take off their exhaust fumes at maximum!
though i take massive excetion to it being a city inhabited by unsocial and couldn't care less human beings. how fuckin dare you john, whats your bloody problem. scared of darkies are you? or just a stereotypical uncosmopolitan red necked northern git, whippet, cloth capped and all?
been to st. pauls lately, or bedminster? how's bout swansea? i wonder what birkenheads like now? and drumchapels a slum! for sure.
as a traveller the two places i'm most at home.....hackney and barcalona, and its the people that make it that way.
oppose the olympics cos its money, coca-cola, mcshite and more. or glorify and enrich an elitism which the olympic pursuit is in person.
ME! i say lets trash capitalism, ideology and division in all their petty forms and fuck the olympics. definitely not in MY borough and that goes for dsei and all!!!
an angry clown innit!!
Why London yet again .
18.07.2003 15:57
John
Why London ? ps to last remarks.
18.07.2003 17:15
john
still angry, though less stressed
18.07.2003 17:35
different cultures abound galore.
but lets be honest you started this arguement and i'm up for an arguement. an angry clown i am indeed!
MY fuckin mindset? can i please quote?
"My own experience of the so called Capital is one of a dirty smelly city inhabited by unsocial and could'nt care less human beings." Fair play john, you do state it as your own experience. but are all 8 million plus unsocial and could'nt care less human beings? you fuckin eejit.
and what the north does not need is its own government. a mix-match of graham stringer and/or aurthur scargill? NO THANX. what the north needs is mass insurrection, an overthrow of all that oppresses. believe me i know! and believe me i'm no southern git either, somewhere in between though certainly not the midlands! not that you accuse me of being one of course!
but back to my mindset and the olympics. the olympics is a big multi-national capitalistic, nationalistic, fascistic delight. that's why i say to oppose it.
ps. apologies to all for my rants
an angry clown innit!!
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are you going to dsei!!
18.07.2003 17:57
and ever thought that maybe london could do with a few more facilities. it appears the north alraedy has so in abundance and unlike london not needing the olympics to see it happen.
it seems to me your line is that the north should have everything.
Euro city of culture, commonwealth games, the olympics? you greedy bugger you!
i love the diversity of ethnicity and culture that leeds, liverpool, manchester, huddersfield or any of a hundred northern towns i know so well. much as i do east london.
and whilst there is no denying that mosely gained support in the east end, i tend to look to the resistance (cable street for pre-war and the 43 group for after) and don't deny that mosely also enjoy support in birmingham, leeds, bristol, manchester, cardiff et al.
but most of all i do say fuck the olympics, everywhere and anywhere, as an anti-capitalist action.
an angry clown innit!!
Why London? Not again?
18.07.2003 18:18
John
sorry
18.07.2003 18:44
and i still say trash the olympics. an anti-capitalist action.
an angry clown innit
Hmmmmm......
18.07.2003 19:29
given any reason for me to oppose the bid, sorry, I am sure U tried...*hehe*
So you would oppose the bid because it is, how did you put it, a big capitalist, nationalist "thing".
I am sorry but that didn't quite get to me, yes, the games will cost tax payers money..
but better to use it Olympics than for another war (but then agian there will be another war anyway...so) but it will also generate money to these poor areas of London, as well as the housing that I mentioned which no one seemed to reply to...
And I also regonise that there are plenty of places outside London that are much nicer
but if they were to hold the games there would have to be much more building of stadiums and other facilities...which means more of taxpayers money....but then again many activists already claim "dole" money which is also taxpayers (like myself) money..so you can not complain about that!!!
How did you turn a discussion about Olympics to having a revolution in the North of England...that totally flew over my head...and being over 6ft tall...that means it went VERY high!!...*haah*
Thanx again and I know this is too late for any one to reply...
X-it SPook
Spook
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